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  1. The soviets rarely did anything to those studio l who had some fame
    If one read the books of the changers of the period. Prior like utkey, you would find that this was often true and she talks about it as it did not allow her to save her love Arcady… Who was not as famous as she was having come from the West, to the east, and losing her faith in the system after discovering the truths

  2. My dog salivates when I prepare his food. As he is a very large and “jowly” dog, this is a fairly wet affair, and traces of his foreknowledge that food will be forthcoming invariably end up on the floor and walls. Damn you, Pavlov!

  3. Pavlov investigated the gastric function of dogs, and later, children, by externalizing a salivary gland so he could collect, measure, and analyze the saliva and what response it had to food under different conditions.

    Egads. “Externalizing a salivary gland” sounds pretty bad to do to dogs, and he did it to children?

  4. OM: No, a rescue dog, so we’re not sure, but certainly not a mastiff. We guess St. Bernard and chocolate Lab mix.

  5. The Russians have a reputation for being the best at controlling the mind via psychology and conditioning. Even the US military has picked up some of the later day operant conditioning, now used to train people to pull the trigger (kill on demand) without hesitation in battle.

    Used to be about 50% of American soldiers in WWII refused to pull the trigger. They weren’t useless or cowards, they just preferred to reload guns for the people who could actually shoot people and hit them. Helped avoid PTSD too. PTSD was NOT being shell shocked from having a huge concussive explosion happen near your head. That was, I think, the original interpretation of PTSD though.

    People can see some modern derivations of this conditioning via North Korea and China’s “mass person marches” on video.

    And of course, for a more homegrown American solution, just look at how Democrats in this country obey orders to persecute Christians and expose children to the Gaystapo tactics.

  6. I was a psych major in undergrad and conducted my own experiment on weekends with a good friend.

    I had a very small bell on a necklace. We would go to the men’s dorms/floors and approach certain rooms and I would let the bell quietly ring and then we would be friendly, let’s go for drinks and dance and be happy. It did not take that long before I could let the bell ring at the end of the hallway and the guys would be in the hallway ready to go out partying.

    Ah, the good old days….

    Ann – re studying gastric function – check the history of William Beaumont.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Beaumont

  7. Exteriorize: to expose (an internal structure) temporarily outside the body, for observation, surgery, or experimentation.

  8. OM:

    Very good temperament, but his size intimidates mightily. We try to keep his weight right around 110, but if it were left to him he’d be 150 lbs. We estimate his age (actually the vet did so) at around 8 years now and he is failing. Eyes and ears about gone, had to have a rear leg amputated last year because of cancer. My daughter picked him up when she was working rescue and no one would take him, and she left him with us when she went overseas several years ago.

  9. The bigger the dog, the sooner the end.

    As to “exteriorizing” the salivary gland, that simply meant surgically relocating the opening of Stenson’s duct from inside the cheek to the outside, since plastic cannulas did not then exist.

    Stenson’s duct was found by Niels Stenson in the early 1600s. All good docs were anatomists in those days.

    I enjoy reading non-anatomists’ notions. Exteriorizing the parotid gland is anatomically absurd, since that ignores blood supply issues.

  10. That sure didn’t read like Pavlov’s dogs were happy campers. I sure wouldn’t want my saliva glands or stomach exteriorized.

  11. liz wrote, “It did not take that long before I could let the bell ring at the end of the hallway and the guys would be in the hallway ready to go out partying.”

    That’s not the same as salivation, because the men’s reaction is under (some :D) conscious control. If, however, you could show that in a classroom (or some other unrelated) the bell alone caused men to react in an unconscious, involuntary, physiological way, such as salivating or some other sign of arousal…

  12. Thanks for an enlightening article.
    The poor man, going from the 1880’s when science was advancing fast to the “science” of the Soviet.
    May he rest in peace, may we see farther as we stand on the shoulders of those great scientists of the past.

    Let truth and wisdom lead us. Please, God, this more than anything.

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