The third debate: the one between the moderators and the candidates
Here’s a thread for the third Republican debate.
I’ll be adding to it as the night wends on.
8:33: I’ve watched for the last 3 minutes or so, but within 20 seconds it was clear what was happening. This is a debate, all right, but it’s a debaqte between the moderators and the candidates, with Kasich acting as a mole on behalf of the moderators.
8:39: Rubio’s taking it to the moderators and the MSM now, with some force. And the audience is applauding. Bush tries (unsuccessfully) to take him on.
8:45 Now Cruz takes on the moderators. Very well, I might add. The moderators don’t allow him to answer the substantive question because he spent his time bashing them. I think it was time well spent; he made his point. The behavior of the moderators in this debate is a travesty.
Rand Paul was asked the next question. He could have earned many points if he’d responded by saying, “I yield my time to Cruz, because I agree with him about what’s going on here, and you haven’t allowed him to answer the question.” He chose not to do so.
9:11: I find it annoying when the second tier of candidates speak. It feels like they’re wasting our time at this point; they have no chance.
Speaking of annoying: Becky Quick, they name is supercilious.
9:18: Now the audience boos moderator Quintanilla for his truly absurd gotcha remark to Carson.
It occurs to me that it’s possible that one or two Democrats watching this debate might actually get the idea that there really is MSM bias against the Republicans.
9:27: Rubio says that the MSM is Hillary’s super PAC, and excoriates them for praising her performance in the Benghazi hearing. Excellent point, and made with vigor.
9:58: Christie has his moment, and it’s a great one. Fantasy football?? And: even in New Jersey, we call what you’re doing “rude” (to Harwood). He reminds those of us who used to like him of why we did.
10:22: It seems to me that Cruz and Rubio enhanced their standings through this debate—that is, if anyone was listening, considering it was held at the same time as the World Series. Trump and Fiorina, as well as Carson, did well. Even Christie was a lot better than usual.
The rest should drop out. Now.
The prospect of the debate and a thread on it tonight fills me with inertia.
ha ha vanderleun. i have no TV, so I am glad that in this sea of … well, whatever … there might be some intelligent observations and commentary here. if y’all can comment on body language as well as “message” that will be appreciated by those like me w/o tv. Seems it is not even on the radio!
Seems it is not even on the radio!:
http://www.newstalk987.com
There are some sites (TV Channels) carrying this over the internet, check your local stations
Trump on Kaisich. “That’s why he’s on the end!”
ah! found it on the radio. nice.
Dumb question: Who the heck agreed to have John J. Harwood and Becky Quick (sp?) and CNBC do this debate? Idiots. At least Cruz called them out for what they are. More of this, please!
One good thing about the Mets being in the World Series is that I can pick up WOR on the radio pretty well. I haven’t had TV since 2012.
I’m sort of rooting for KC, though.
carl in atlanta:
Not a dumb question.
The GOP keeps agreeing to debating with enemy moderators. The problem, I think, is that nearly all the possible moderators are the enemy.
Neo: Amen. These candidates are close to collaborating to the extent necessary to put these CNBC worms in their place.
Another dumb question: Did CNBC bring Cramer in to save the discredited asses of the other three inquisitors?
carl in atlanta: Cruz certainly didn’t collaborate.
Neo: Touché. He led and the rest have followed his lead.
Still, the candidates are figuring out that they can own these talking heads. Now the audience is joining in; best live TV that I’ve seen in a long time.
Neo, you were right when you said leftists don’t even try to fake it anymore. How does a partisan hack like CNBC’s John Harwood get this gig in the first place?:
http://thefederalist.com/2015/10/27/cnbcs-john-harwood-has-no-business-moderating-a-gop-presidential-debate/
I can’t believe anybody is watching this crap over the World Series.
A commenter at Ace’s wrote, “Kasich looks like a chipmunk munching on acorns.” Exactly.
Watching the msm ‘moderate’ a gop ‘debate’ to sort the wheat from the chaff all one needs to consider is which candidates attack the ‘moderators’. Cruz leads the way.
rickl,
One can watch 2 things at once. All hail the brave new technological world.
Biggest loser of the night is CNBC. They were disgraced. Check out the Drudge headlines that just went up.
Kasich came across as arrogant and mean in his attack on Ben Carson.
The rest should just drop out now? Why? They’ve been treated like inconsequential shits by the RNC and the media interrogators and they should go quietly home?
I wouldn’t. I would not answer their question. I’d say my piece and I’d give the interrogators hell, real hell, at every opportunity.
The GOP candidates done broke the code. They will no longer let the moderators push them around. Thumbs up to all those who pushed back.
Cruz and Rubio were on their games tonight. Both impressive debaters.
Carly did well, but she didn’t stand out tonight like she did in the last debate. Still very polished in her answers.
Kasich and Jeb are both competent governors, but they are out of their league in this Presidential race. They just don’t have “it.” (Charisma?) I can’t define “it,” but I know it when I see it.
Carson is not a great debater or public speaker. I know he’s brilliant and his character is unimpeachable, but the President needs to be able to persuade people to follow him through thick and thin. IMO, Ben just doesn’t have that ability. I love the man, but not as the President.
We saw the Christie that we used to love. He had some good moments tonight.
Trump has changed his tactics. He is no longer running everybody down. He did attack Kasich a bit tonight, but managed to modulate himself a bit. He profited from John Harwood’s imbecilic attack on him. Cruz profited even more.
Rand Paul is a good voice for fiscal conservatism. He should drop out and spend his time fighting those battles.
Huckabee, a good and decent man, does not have much chance in this field.
All in all, a good night for the GOP brand and a punch in the nose for the MSM.
I watched the early debate. (I’m an old codger and can watch while I walk on my elliptical – killing two birds with one stone.) I was impressed by Lindsay Graham’s grasp of foreign and defense policy – an area they didn’t get into in the later debate. Pity, since the election is all about picking a C-in-C.
When attakers approach, identify the strongest attacker, take him out swiftly, and the rest become jello. Cruz was the leader in the counter offensive, a few others quickly followed his lead. Cruz 1 msm less than zero.
Jeb! Kasich, Lindsey, and Huckabee should exit the playing field. Let the hunger games begin.
I was watching video about how swordmanship was being reconstructed in Europe and America, from medieval texts… hey, don’t blame me, this isn’t new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=7DBmNVHTmNs
Paul, if he is a Libertarian, is part of an “organization” that the Left has several leverage points and strings on.
While other Republicans accidentally attacked the Benghazi hearings vs Clinton, providing ammo for HRC’s defenders, Paul directly chose to provide cover for murdering Democrats. But that’s just one person and one incident, the Libertarian party has historically been on and off again, a propaganda appendage of the Leftist alliance.
Don’t expect too much from them, they aren’t who they think they are.
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