Some advice for Marco Rubio
I think some of it is good advice.
Kurt Schlichter wrote it, and it goes this:
I would be supporting you today except for the amnesty thing. There are a lot of Republicans like me. Here’s how you win us back.
First, quit the denial. You supported amnesty ”¦ stop what you are about to say. You are about to say, “But it wasn’t amnesty,” and saying that is going to set me off…
Say this: “I wanted to try and find a compromise to solve the illegal immigration problem. I was too trusting of Chuck Schumer and the Democrats ”“ a mistake I won’t make again ”“ and I let myself become a salesman for what was essentially amnesty. I was wrong.”
Would that do it for you?
Or would he have to add (as the author of the piece insists) that all illegal immigrants must go home (although how that it to be accomplished is never quite specified, either by Trump or anyone else)? And—as Schlicter also suggests—would Rubio also have to pledge to build an actual physical wall rather than any sort of virtual one, or partly virtual one?
Would that do it for you?
Or will you never trust him, never ever ever, despite his obvious electoral pluses?
given that each assimilated us person will be replaced by seven others, yeah, that would have done it for me.,.. and maybe even over trump…
then again read Stella Morabito former intelligence analyst who grew up in a left-wing family….
In this exclusive video interview with the Daily Caller News Foundation, she details how the left uses mass manipulation techniques to confuse Americans and grab power. She condemns conservatives for not even realizing the behavior modification techniques being employed in the political square, such as those encouraged by liberals
so do i, but you know how effective i have been trying to teach that stuff and whats going on… so the larger point is not whether Rubio will do it for me or others, its whether or not we have our thinking caps right or not, and THEN whether the point means something!
ignoring that stuff is making it work more, with the most inflienced being young women… (but since men are the head and women are the neck, its irrelevant to bother with the others. even Marx said so!)
a project of cultural Marxists to capture the mediating institutions in our culture for ideological gain — the media, Hollywood, pop culture, academia and more. “If you push an agenda to centralize power, you need mass ignorance and effective propaganda.”
Morabito says political correctness provides “a semantic fog where manipulation can occur under the guise of being fair or non-discriminatory.”
Sprachregelung to achieve Gleichschaltung
How much is our like for him part of this, or how much of this is he beholden too as a believer, etc?
Mass delusion is an important tool of oppressors because they can’t survive free expression. That’s why the First Amendment’s a target.
[and immigrants are more ignorant and come from places where this is normed, so they are much less likely to fight it than the residents put upon by the system, schools, media, protestors, and the foreigners themselves]
You Can’t Resist What You Don’t Understand
and
[so i am not the only one who knows how the mechanics work that says much the same thing!]
divided into two parts
Never trust him, never ever ever. He is a bounder, a self-promoter, a weather-cock
i guess before people can clearly decide they have to figure out where they have been manipulated, eh?
but how can they do that if no one discusses it in a way that engages that as the discussion? what if they dont believe its happened?
there is a huge amount of stuff that is not in the public focus, but you can be sure its in teh political focus as the sum of the things put together are how you take over or how you prevent take over.
example:
“The Rape of the Mind: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing” (1956)
http://www.amazon.com/Rape-Mind-Psychology-Menticide-Brainwashing/dp/1615773762/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427987451&sr=8-1&keywords=the+rape+of+the+mind
certainly not neos bed stand reading
here are some more pieces that you might use to point you to how to clean out the trash!!! (even if some of it is in your own mind and you dont remember how it got there!)
How To Escape The Age Of Mass Delusion
http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/08/how-to-escape-the-age-of-mass-delusion/
10 Key Ways To Break The Mass Delusion Machine
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/27/10-key-ways-to-break-the-mass-delusion-machine/
1. Drop Political Correctness
2. Realize Personal Relationships Are the Target
3. Human Separation Is the End Result of PC
4. Fear Fuels the Machine
5. PC Is Oiled by Mass Ignorance
6. Coerced Silence Kills Democracy
7. Resistance Is the Only Antidote
8. One Person Has Immense Power
9. ‘Surprising Validators’ Are Like Superpowers
10. Get Out and Engage
one last thing from the review of rape of the mind
When it comes to understanding the inner workings of social psychology and political correctness, we seem to be at a loss.
agreed…
“I was too trusting of Chuck Schumer and the Democrats — a mistake I won’t make again — and I let myself become a salesman for what was essentially amnesty. I was wrong.”
It is, in fact, what Rubio needs to do. I not-terribly-fondly remember Rubio being led around by the nose by Schumer. I hope he realizes by now, how utterly duplicitous the enemy is, and how virtually anything they offer is a money-back-guaranteed Trojan horse.
Their side plays for keeps; our side plays for — ???
Maybe Rubio can parlay his new-found knowledge into something useful for next time around — or (who knows?) maybe even this time around.
It was Lucy and the Charlie Brown football again. Our side, in a spirit of goodwill and compromise, tries to get the political process unstuck, and the enemy gleefully seizes the opportunity to take advantage of the naivete of some on our side. (Now, when is our side going to figure out that we do not repeat do NOT let our debates be hosted by the likes of CNN?)
I’m not a single-issue voter. No single issue will lose any candidate my vote. I will vote for the best candidate available. Period. If that’s Rubio, so be it.
Artfdgr:
You write that the book The Rape of the Mind was or is “certainly not neos bed stand reading.”
I guess you missed two posts of mine that mention that book.
The first reference is from this post written in 2006:
The second reference is from this post of mine written in 2008:
Rubio strikes me as an astute fellow. He was not hoodwinked by Schumer/McCain. I have to conclude his gang of 8 deal participation must reflect his plans for (not) dealing with illegal aliens as a threat to national sovereignty should he become POTUS. He would get my vote over the dem candidate, but serious nose holding would be required.
The wages of sin is death.
Sorry, Rubio, can’t do it.
However, I am curious how many would vote for Cruz after some of the less popular candidates drop out. A year ago, he would’ve been considered ‘extreme’ by many (for being too conservative? I’m not sure, but that is what I hear). After getting a look at Trump and Carson, some might see Cruz as a reasonable choice.
I’m okay with the top 5 going into primary season being: Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio and Fiorina. That gives us plenty to work with, and Trump/Carson only have about 40% of the vote count right now. That leaves a LOT of room for the other 3 candidates to make some headway.
I do not expect anyone to advocate mass deportations; although I believe that self-deportation could, and should, be encouraged.
I think I would be satisfied if I heard, and believed, something like this:
1. Secure the border. Apply whatever resources are required to stop the flood. Now!
2. Terminate sanctuary cities. Withdraw all federal funds to cities that refuse to abide by law.
3. Provide a specified period for any undocumented aliens to register. Any who do not, to be deported when found after the deadline. No questions.
4. Screen those who register to determine if they are (otherwise) law abiding, and self sustaining. Issue visas to those who pass. (duration to be determined.)
5. Any non-citizen who commits a felony to be deported, no questions, once justice has been served.
6. Cut welfare benefits to all who remain in the country illegally. Stop providing resident college tuition rates; and issuing driver’s licenses.
7. Lead a national debate on the terms of a long term residency permit, or a path to citizenship.
8. Initiate immediate action, as required, to rescind the ridiculous “birth right citizenship” provision and define the right to natural citizenship in reasonable terms.
Still don’t trust him as POTUS, but I would love to see a Carly-Marco ticket.
He can bring FL and Hispanic votes to the ticket.
I like your list, Oldflyer. Mass deportation is not possible, and to believe otherwise is foolish. Your 3rd point is the most crucial after the 1st. I would add a 9th point: no more visas for any reason for 5 years.
I am not committed yet to any of the Republicans, though since 1968 I have always voted for the Republican candidate in the Presidential election.
However, Marco Rubio should not be criticized so harshly for joining the “Gang of 8” because he recognized where it was going and dropped out. EVERY President has similar things in his background: Ronald Reagan after all signed the most comprehensive pro-abortion law in the country as Governor of California.
And note that Donald Trump has a much weaker record on immigration than Rubio. Of course, in my view, Trump is a Democrat who decided to run as a Republican, as Reagan did. However, unlike Reagan, Trump’s views are pretty much as when he was a Democrat, and on almost every issue are at the far left end of the current Republican field.
Rubio being redefined as a rube:
Does Trump Linguistically Engineer His Insults?
He does.
After 4 to 8 years of good behavior, I’d be willing to give him another chance. Trust is earned.
The immigration “crisis” has been with us for well over 100 years. I’m am overcome with gratitude for the people who have finally solved the problem and have chosen to share with us.
It wouldn’t win me back. Amnesty, or anything that smacks of it, is for me the unpardonable sin, the abomination of desecration, because it means giving the country away. Support amnesty, and I refuse to vote for you, ever, and I will never, ever, give you a second chance.
Or will you never trust him, never ever ever, despite his obvious electoral pluses?
Bad judgement at the gut level.
It is all about principles not policies rube!
“Or will you never trust him, never ever ever”?
He’s definitively exposed himself as a political opportunist. Such do not place principle before self-aggrandizement, which means Rubio will do the right thing only when it is politically beneficial. Given the problems and threats we face both internally and externally, such a man will prove to be entirely insufficient to the challenge. He’ll talk the talk but not walk the walk.
To my knowledge he has yet to articulate what principled rationale has led to his changed viewpoint. Thus, the probability is that political calculation has led to his ‘change’.
But it is his obvious electoral preferability to any democrat that will lead me to vote for him in the general election. Let’s not kid ourselves however that a Pres. Rubio would lead to a reversal of our ship of state’s course. Under Rubio, we will simply head a bit more slowly toward the cliff’s edge. Only a fundamental change of course will avoid utter disaster.
No way that apology works.
Since he was too dumb to realize Shummer is a congenital liar, and if he has to be “coached” on what to say (which does seem to be the case) it’s not all that different from the lying hag Hillary essentially writing and strongly supporting the trade bill and then saying she’s against it — wouldn’t trust either of them at this point.
Rubio’s problem is that he lied to get the votes and support of Republicans who believed him when he said he was against amnesty. Which is not unlike what Ronald Reagan did in California when he ran for Governor the first time.
Reagan promised in no uncertain terms to never sign into law the Democrat proposal to start state income tax withholding from paychecks. That’s right, until 1966 everyone wrote out a check due April 15 to the state for their years income tax. His famous line that “taxes should hurt” was based on his belief that the only way to keep government spending in check was to make it crystal clear to people just how much government cost. Withholding hid the cost because you never saw the money. So what did Reagan do? He betrayed every single Californian who voted for him and signed the damn law. And it didn’t hurt his career one bit.
But then he was a very underestimated actor. Rubio isn’t. You know he’s a liar just like Nixon from the profuse sweat.
And by the way, California now ranks almost number one in taxes. State income tax is over 11%. Thanks Ronnie.
@G6loq
“Or will you never trust him, never ever ever, despite his obvious electoral pluses?”
He will never be able to get the party base behind him because of his lying about amnesty, thus he is unelectable, thus he has no electoral pluses.
Rubio giving up a newly won senate seat to enter a wildly risky presidential race?
Rubio the guy who was (according to him) paying on student loans four years ago?
Rubio who is running against his patron Jeb?
Rubio whose presidential existence depends entirely on Donor Class money?
Something does not add up.
Advice for Jeb Bush:
Don’t let her fight your battles.
Bush!
Mass deportation is not possible, and to believe otherwise is foolish.
The funny thing is that if the government decides to “mass deport” people, how would anyone recognize that the people being driven off their land is a citizen or not?
Remember Nevada where Reid used his para military goons to shoot people off the land he was taking for his own cronies. And that was just in one border state with a limited “Senator” in charge.
Mass deportations have been done throughout history, back into ancient times.
Duh!
The normal course of action is to drop a net on but a fraction of the offenders.
Then the media lets it out that the government ( ICE// FBI ) is systematically going through its database to arrest illegals.
Further, that particular emphasis is being pushed upon Muslims of recent origin — as electronic and internet chatter have established that ISIS has slipped in sleeper jihadis.
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After 9-11 there was a MASS migration of Muslims — straight for the Canadian border. (proximity) No-one wanted to be hanging around for arrest. For they had ALL over-stayed their visas.
It took the MSM to calm these illegals down and persuade them to come back to New York.
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Hence, the WORST offenders will be the FIRST out the door.
That’s just the way the world works.
They’ll flee long before ICE shows up.
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Next, some national employers are largely staffed with Mexicans and Mexican Americans. (Pepsi)
So an example is made. ICE descends upon franchised restaurants and sweeps up the inevitable illegals.
FAT fines hit the employer. The MSM gets the story out.
The Feds are sweeping through their records, and will solve the national deficit by fining employers.
Over night pink slips will be cranked up like MAD, as each employer in turn knows who’s illegal. Regardless of false documents, an illegal can’t shed his Mexican cultural legacy, traits, and accent. It just does not happen.
One key ‘tell’ lies in their vocabulary. English will STILL be a second language for them. Transition to English is brutally difficult from Mexican-Spanish. This is amplified for adults.
In particular, the comprehension and speech are split inside the mind. What happens is that an illegal can understand English – he just is crippled when it comes time to respond. Anyone who’s taken high school Spanish can appreciate this.
As for written English — forget about it. Getting an illegal to read English to you… very few can. Such knowledge can’t be gained via the MSM. You’d have to attend American schooling and spend countless hours reading.
Illegals will soon reveal that they have no reading vocabulary to speak of. (pun intended )
Native unemployment will suddenly plunge. High school and college students will suddenly discover the virtues and advantages of working ones way through school.
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Illegals will no longer under cut American unskilled wage rates.
The quality of service, of food, will experience an instant bump.
Even Black teen unemployment will drop !
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Birth motels will be shut down. All births associated with them will be nixxed — documents wise — as the whole affair is fraudulent on the facts and the intent.
As the USSC has ruled since day one: reality trumps documents. Form cannot overrule substance.
Tracking down such fake-American births would be all too easy in our digital age.
Starting with the kid is still missing, and can’t be flown in to ‘cover,’ (Heh)
Such EASY procedures as listed here would drastically change the entire dynamic.
Self-deportation would occur on a grand scale.
And obviously, all Muslim immigration would be terminated — and no visas would be extended to Muslims. Such practices are simply too dangerous to native Americans.
There is no God given right to migrate to America.
There is a Muslim on Muslim sectarian international civil war under way at this time. It must be kept away from our shores.
We’re not so special that we can’t descend into chaos — Lebanese style, Balkans style.
Muslim immigration is too risky. And that’s that.
I remember Rubio stating that he thought that Obama was going to act unilaterally on his own and his support for the Gang of Eight bill was based on that. He said that before the bill was voted on and it proved prophetic, although considering who he was talking about, certainly not prescient.
I’m still not in the Rubio camp, but that’s based upon his lack of executive experience, which IMO contributed to his temporary support of the G of 8 bill. I’d rather he get some seasoning as my governor before jumping head first into the Presidency race. I think he could gain some insight on when to be led versus when to lead or instead, coalition build.
i definitely DID miss those two posts!!!
thanks for letting me know
Change Agents Guide to Innovation in Education
ha ha
Its way too expensive for most people at around $300 dollars a copy new (at amazon)