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  1. In the same way as businesses are propelled by profit, IMO running for office is propelled by ego.

    This doesn’t mean that there are no altruistic reasons for running for public office, it just means that a primary driving force is ego. Trump, Cuban, both Clintons, Cruz, Walker, Biden and all the rest (especially Obama) have that in common.

    Whatever good they may accomplish IMO they serve their own egos first, especially if they’ve been in the public eye for an extended time.

    As for billionaires not being beholden to donors, we all need to remember that they didn’t become billionaires by spending their own money, but by investing it in what they identified as a mostly sure thing.

  2. Bill Clinton won because he knew how to manage an already-sympathetic media. Bush, not so much. He did well with alternet media-managing and was not terrible at legacy media. He won by raising money.

    Obama was mostly back to the old Democratic script of managing media, which he is good at, with elements of managing new media, at which he was better by default. (Okay some new silicon tech support was a big help, too.)

    If new media technology, which I participate in only at the edges, is going to hold the key to 2016 – and I think it will definitely be the key to 2018 and beyond – then folks like me are just not going to understand intuitively who will own that. Things that look ridiculous to us will seem notmal to the “evanescent media” crowd. Managing the brief but enormous peaks and valleys of popularity and notoriety will be done best by people whose instincts are different.

    Here is something to consider. Lots of people have scandals and manage them, or at least can have some sort of career after. Bill Cosby hasn’t even tried. A master at using previous media, he is completely overwhelmed and hasn’t got a popgun to fight back with. That looks entirely deserved, but there are others who deserve it equally and somehow live to fight another day.

    The ground has changed.

  3. Eh, Michael Bloomberg got there before Trump, and was similarly a Democrat turned recent “Republican.” I’m sure that are many others.

    IIRC, Mark Cuban made that atrocious movie about US soldiers raping an Iraqi that so inflamed the ME – clips of it were portrayed as footage of an actual crime. Don’t know much else about him, but that’s not making me interested to learn more.

  4. Does anyone really think that billionaires are less corrupt because they only worry about their own fortune and what might be of benefit to it?

    anyone here actually know any? i have met three and my first girlfriend was worth over 40 million…

    so far no one says anything that is true about them that i have ever saw… but it sounds great to the ignorati…

  5. Ever thought that a man or woman with a billion dollars CANT be bribed neo? your statement sure show you still live steeped in the knowlege the left gave you and not sorted out yet…

  6. you let me know what you or someone else would bribe them with? sex? already on tap… money? more than anyoen can give them…. free travel miles? they get more on a black card than you will see in your life…

    there is NOTHING you can bribe them with… duh

    the ones that ARE nasty are not bribable either, they just are willing to play dirty for fun… ie. being bad and scoring high is more fun to them than being honest and scoring honestly…

    but those are the kind that cant run for office
    you cant bribe them, but you can get the roach versions to run for cover as the more in public they are the more they can get outed if not the cleaner honest ones… and there are plenty of those actually…

    there is a whole bunch of them that play honest, but agressive, following the rules to the ltter which can be brutal… i used to travel with a guy that did things a bit like marcus lemonis before anyone knew who he was… brutal honesty, which can be a lot more painful than being cheated.

    the vast majority of such mae their money in their lifetimes… the ones that made it young tend to be dirty cuase of their guilt than the older ones that made it slower. but the buffets and soros and steyers are dirty players who collude. they do have an opposition camp that HATES to see them ruin others chances…

  7. One of the reasons, I think, that people voted for Arnold was because he was so rich, he didn’t have to be beholden to anyone, either in Sacto or out. But he went to Sacramento, and it was SSDD. Which I think taught those Californians who paid attention a lesson.

  8. Artfldr:

    Once again, you are misunderstanding what I am saying.

    I never said they could be bribed with MONEY in the same way a person of more ordinary financial means could. My point was that the possession of great wealth hardly precludes corruption or rot of other kinds, or of looking out for their own interests rather than those of their country.

  9. I don’t know that Biden is guilty of feeding his ego – or at least not as much – as the other you mention. This article speaks to the human side of Biden – something that will be a distinguishing factor should he decide to enter the race. I’ve got money that he does.

  10. }}} “They open their apps and see what’s there. They don’t go looking for depth and explanations.”

    Well, the LIVs on the Right are certainly the ones driving Trump.

    I didn’t think there were that many, but it’s another example of the death of a society due to pure democracy, for sure.

    When you don’t have to show any sense to have a say, then you bring the whole thing down with nonsense.

    Anyone who supports Trump is an abject imbecile, and I’m ready to defend that with the facts.

  11. }}} If there’s a bigger jerk than Trump, that would be Cuban. God help us.

    Nah. Cuban is better than Trump. Trump is nothing but pure pandering. Cuban has at least a semblance of his own viewpoint that he wants to promote to others.

  12. Doesn’t matter who supports Trump or not, because the US democracy doesn’t exist and elections don’t matter as to the outcome of this war.

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