Woody Allen continues to demonstrate his moral bankruptcy
I know, I know: why bother to even discuss Woody Allen at this point?
But this interview with the 79-year-old comedian and film director was featured on Yahoo, and so I admit that I succumbed to the click bait and read the following Allen quote:
I started the relationship with [Soon-Yi Previn, his then-girlfriend Mia Farrow’s adoptive daughter, who was—at most—21 years old at the time to his 56] and I thought it would just be a fling. It wouldn’t be serious, but it had a life of its own. And I never thought it would be anything more,” Allen revealed. “Then we started going together, then we started living together, and we were enjoying it. And the age difference didn’t seem to matter. It seemed to work in our favor actually.”
I wrote that Soon-Yi was 21 at the outset, but there is evidence that she was no older than 20 and perhaps younger. At any rate, she appears to have been over the age of consent. Whatever Allen’s sense of his actual relationship with Farrow’s children may have been, as Farrow’s daughter Soon-Yi stood in a quasi-stepchild role to Allen and any affair with her was a betrayal of Farrow and the other children, in addition to whatever shock may have come from the age difference.
Allen and Soon-Yi have now been married for 20 years (how time flies), so the couple has stood the test of time and then some, particularly by celebrity or Hollywood standards. However, no matter how much time passes, Allen still doesn’t get that he is conveying a profound narcissism and lack of understanding of the depth of the pain he caused. We learn that, when he disrupted Farrow’s entire family by having this affair, it wasn’t even because of a serious reason at first—such as, for example, love—it was for what was in his own words “just a fling.”
Nor does he seem to understand how that sounds to other people. If it is true, at least he should have enough moral awareness to keep quiet about it. But he doesn’t.
[ADDENDUM: By the way, in a completely unrelated story, Mia Farrow is also in the news today for this abominable action.]
From the LA Times blog of Andrew Malcolm, 2010:
“The notorious and formerly funny movie director Woody Allen is apparently frustrated with the cumbersome operations of American democracy too.
The onetime-father-now-husband-of-his-daughter tells the Spanish-language magazine La Vanguardia that the United States’ Democratic Smoker-in-Chief could accomplish a whole lot more from his White House if he didn’t have so many disorderly, annoying people objecting, distracting and criticizing him all the time.
Such social messiness has been known to occur in functioning democracies, even cinematic ones, although less often on celebrity-strewn movie sets under the direction of a dictatorial director.
“It would be good… if [President Obama] could be dictator for a few years because he could do a lot of good things quickly,” Allen is quoted as saying.
Allen is also to have said: “I am pleased with Obama. I think he is brilliant. The Republican Party should get out of his way and stop trying to hurt him.”
When you have no standards, no moral compass, this is what you get. These people are not above criticism, they just don’t accept any.
yeah… everyone has a judgment when white men marry other people… ever notice?
she is of legal age, and thats that…
ie. its ok to be a cougar, and not ok for a man – because feminism hates men, and hates when men get what old shriveled lesbians cant get
yeah.. tongue in cheek, but its the truth.
How old was aston when demi poached him from the other young ladies?
and of course no one remembers when martha ray had her thing before she died… his name was mark harris… and no one could understand how crazy he was for her, or at least seemed to be
i loved her work from my favorite era of film, when women were women, men were men, and sheep were NOT scared, as these were hot strong feminine women… hard to believe women had the real short end of the stick when you realize how these ladies were, marthar ray, lucile ball, and the screwball comedies
and she went out in her career the same sad sorry way that Ben Vereen did, and Esther Rolle, etc
they either ended up plugging things to elderly people that were borderline questionable, or ended up doing characters in childrens shows, like zoobliezoo (vereen), and the bugaloos (martha ray)…
i met her around that period as my dad was doing the touchup work for head shots for actors and stars and she just ended up taking the stage again in Pippin for a short while (when the guy that was the star of the greatest american hero became pippin)…
anyway… after marryign and divorcing seven times…
he was i think her last marraige, and everyone did the.. he married her for her money and around the time that she eventually expressed alzehiemers
she was 77, and he was a hair stylist and 44, and it took 22 days before they got hitched.
and anyone remember Jerry lee lewis?
his bride was 13 years old.
the truth is that feminsts always always always hated that older men could do what they couldnt. and thats hae may september relationships…
anyone remember tony randall? (the oscar character was much hs real personality, and my dad hated when he showed up for work to be done)
Heather Randall, 36, the widow of legendary actor Tony Randall, who died in 2004 at the age of 84… 50 year difference
of course george burns never married again, but he was well known for the young wome around him, but gracie was something else
and anyone remember what a big deal the relationships that Mae West had?
Artfldgr:
If you read my post, you’ll see my objection is not to the age difference. I state that she is over the age of consent, and the rest of the post is about the effect his affair had on Farrow and her other children, given that Soon-Yi was her adopted daughter and their sibling.
Nor does my post have a single thing to do with Soon-Yi’s nationality/ethnicity/race. That is of absolutely no concern to me.
I should also point out that they hate that male actors can often make the switch from young to old and are still liked, while female actresses who built their careers on being sex xymbols and so on, dont do that well at all…
they refuse to consider that its them, and they ignore actresses who were da bomb young AND old like Anne Bancroft, Ann-Margret, Faye Dunaway and the ageless Raquel Welch
heck, we are talking about people who can have multiple orgasms and think its unfair men can stand and pee…. they also believe its sexist to open a door (benevolently sexist), and not to open a door (overtly sexist)…
so do we really have to discuss wackaloon nut jobs who took their time and stuff given to them by society from work and drugery, to make a communist revolution cause they were bored in a happy gulag and decided having lots of sex with men they dont like while exterminating children befor they were children and ignoring deseases was a modern plus?
People like WA make me feel like a puritan.
The idea of Woody Allen having “moral awareness” such that he avoids (a) entering into a “fling” with a woman less than half his age, or (b) admitting it was a “fling” is a novel thought. Allen, moral awareness? Really?
No self-awareness:
“I’m 35 years older, and somehow, through no fault of mine or hers, the dynamic worked. I was paternal. She responded to someone paternal. I liked her youth and energy. She deferred to me, and I was happy to give her an enormous amount of decision making just as a gift and let her take charge of so many things.”
Saw his recent “Magic in the Moonlight” and the pairing of a teenaged-looking Emma Stone to the 50-something Colin Firth just felt icky. You can’t help but notice how his on-screen pairing mirror his personal life.
Allen on life:
Soon-Yi = oasis.
I don’t think questions of morality or what others think of him ever enter into it for him. He’s simply focused on alleviating the miserableness of it all, on whatever gets him through the night.
Ann, it’s a good thing Allen has only experienced “first-world” problems. I can only imagine what kind of person he would be w/o the benefit of the largess of our western forbears.
What do you expect from a man who defended Roman Polanski’s rape of a 13 year old girl?
I blame the movie goers ….
These are the same people that get all outraged over the killing of a lion but see nothing wrong with killing unborn babies and selling the body parts.
“but it had a life of its own”
Not in control much then, is he?
I never cared much for his movies or his humor. Always found him to be too much of a bore.
I’m not sure what there is to comment on here. Woody Allen started out with Louise Lasser as his female lead in films, then moved on to Diane Keaton, etc. MANHATTAN, in which the absurd-looking Allen was allegedly romantically worshipped by the beautiful 16 yr old Mariel Hemingway, was more or less universally acclaimed.
Meanwhile, whatever his private life, he was in SHOW-BIZ, wherein successful males have always had beautiful young females as one of the main goals and perquisites of their success. Rock & roll, movies, classical music, professional wrestling, the circus — this is what show-biz is all about.
Just so, brilliant thoracic surgeons and neurosurgeons have their seasons where they are “rock stars.” Etc. Nothing new here.
OT: I’m not sure why actors think his movies are an honor, or a milestone to their careers, to be in when they manage to get a role. I understand Woody Allen is a brand name in the movie industry, but he’s luster has rubbed off and every other movie is practically the same premise and the same set-up.
RE: addendum.
If Mia did do that then she is a morally bankrupt as Woody.
These folks who tweet out someone’s home address (e.g., George Zimmerman’s; the cop in Ferguson; now Cecil’s hunter) have got to know exactly what they are doing – they are hoping that someone will see the address and, in the very least, go harass the person, if not do them harm or kill them.
None of these stars who tweet out such information are stupid/naé¯ve enough to not realize that is what could happen. You don’t get to fame by being dumb (playing dumb maybe; but, not being dumb)
I see that Beverly in the first comment mentioned that Allen thought that Obama should be given dictatorial powers. That should tell you all you need to know about his judgement. Because we all know that dictators voluntarily give up their power after “fixing” the country. As a Jew, one would assume that Allen would be wary of charismatic dictators. One would be wrong, evidently.
I’ve seen a simple mathematical formula that gives the minimum age of a female companion for a male of any given age. Supposedly it originated in France as a guideline for suitable mistresses.
It’s half the age of the male plus seven years.
I’ve done the math, and it works for every age:
14 year old male > 14 year old female
18 year old male > 16 year old female
30 year old male > 22 year old female
56 year old male > 35 year old female
An 80 year old billionaire cavorting with a 47 year old golddigger is a whole lot less skeevy than if he was hanging around with a 21 year old. Presumably a woman of that age is old enough to know what she’s doing.
Woody Allen? Nothing on Planned Parenthood. We got Woody and Africa. Nothing on the butchery and depravity of the Democrats next door – who are in fact every bit the same as the Germans who supported Hitler.
ALL committed Democrats are vicious animals and Neroesque Tyrants at heart. Saying so will actually help them, not hurt them. The truth works that way.
Or maybe I missed it.
These are the same types of people that use their Hollywood influence to drop the embargo on Cuba and normalize relationships. Which is to say, normalize the trafficking of boys and girls underage, in order for sex tourists to go to Cuba and get the goods. They know all about that kind of stuff, if you look into it.
Rosa is one of those people that likes to think Hussein is a normal leader, that anything else is extremist talk. Which is why they don’t like to recognize certain Hollywood issues.
I remember WA once explained how his relationship with his step-daughter started, saying “I could have (just as well) met her at a party or something.”
As for people giving out the addresses of victims of the media, it’s the 21st Century equivalent of trying to stir up a lynch mob.
GRA Says:
July 30th, 2015 at 8:16 pm
OT: I’m not sure why actors think his movies are an honor,
It’s a route to an Oscar…
Doh!
George Says:
July 30th, 2015 at 11:45 pm
As for people giving out the addresses of victims of the media, it’s the 21st Century equivalent of trying to stir up a lynch mob.
It’s more towards wall papering a “Juden” legend across a retail store front — where the family lives up stairs:
1) Out groups the target
2) Fixes the target
3) Disrupts home life — what the Japanese would call “wa.”
(harmony)
4) Is fully intended to run the target out of town and out of society.
Woody Allen’s is just a plain case of infidelity.
An adult is what: 20, 21, 26? I thought it was >/= 18. So this “girl” (20 or 21), willingly has a relationship with an old man (56?) and the disparate ages make this a crime? How about 40 and 76? Is that bad? What’s the maximum acceptable age difference among consenting adults?
Woody would spend life in PC leftist prison had he got caught on a college campus having consensual sex with a 21 year old without written consent, right?
This post doesn’t do much to dispel the leftist notion that conservatives are puritanical idiots and people are children until the Obamacare-approved age of 26.
Blert:as of late, besides blue Jasmine is the exception. His latest currently filming might get an Oscar nom for acting but normally his movies are not considered contenders unless it’s a particularly strong screenplay.
Dion: >>puritanical idiots
Oh please. So peopl admit to such an age gap is weird and you’re a “purititanical idiot.” nonsense.
Dion…
It’s not her age — it’s her relationship.
Allen had been her step-father — whatever that might mean in the Allen new-wave family ‘structure.’
IIRC, he’d held that status through her teen years. I don’t track such matters…
Which leads one to wonder: did the trysting start with the trusting — and long before age eighteen?
IIRC, Allen was anything but the typical head of a family — being the man about town — and largely absent.
Of course, just about everything about those two is pretty kooky.
Mia Farrow had generous affections almost equal to that of her famous – latest – husband.
( Their love fives will require a multi-volume compilation. )
“….no matter how much time passes, Allen still doesn’t get that he is conveying a profound narcissism and lack of understanding of the depth of the pain he caused.”
Really? Believe ” mother” Mia? Not a happy couple? Because gay marriage…not my business. But Woody and Soon-yi, THIS, hey, it’s different, RIGHT? “I can SEE the narcissicm….”
Realy, neo – Dion is right on this: “Woody Allen’s is just a plain case of infidelity.”
REMINDER: the age of legal consent is 13 in Spain and much of our neighbor, Mexico.
neo-neocon, i was NOT referring to you, as you never expressed that your a wackaloon feminist telling women to act in contradictory manners as a way to utopian anti patriarchial existence…
in the case of the communist sourced well known movement – “with friends like that who needs enemies?”
IF you think its creepy for older men to have younger women – something normal for a few millinea and has brought us to this point in human existence… and dont particularly like movies, the pretend things…
then what about shows that PROMOTE such in reverse all over the place?
Cougar Town: A divorced mother must face the harsh realities of dating and aging in a youth- and beauty-obsessed culture. Having spent her 20s tackling the responsibilities of marriage and motherhood, she finds that her 40s are a journey of self-discovery amid friends, family and an ex-husband who all offer advice. Members of her dysfunctional but supportive extended family
The Cougar: an American reality television series where an older woman (aka cougar) chooses a boyfriend from a group of twenty younger men. Over eight weekly hour-long episodes, the young men (all in their 20s) compete for a chance to have a long term relationship with Stacey Anderson, a 40-year-old real estate agent and divorced mother of four from Arizona
yeah… lets get young 20 year old women to stand on a podium and get picked like slaves at a bazzarr by a over 40 wealthy man with lots of kids, cause that is so much better than two people finding each other by accident and despite the social negative they get together and so on.
mostly what this ends up being is very contradictory… that women are just like men, but we dont see peope protecting men from what they think are default “bad” relationships (quite the opposite actually)… no one really cares (leaving neo out and explainging that no one cares is not literal), what Soon Yi feels, believes, etc.. She and her wants or choices are completely off the table (for her own good dont ya know)
while neo points out that her race doesnt matter, to the leftist women, it DOES matter as the story here for them is that chinese women are submissive and white powerful men dont love them, they have a fetish, like wanting to lick shoes or something, and that they have the offensive “yellow fever”, and so on.
even worse… chinese women tend to look a lot younger than their years… ie. my wife is over 40, but she looks like she is just out of high school. i am over 50, but luckily i look like i am just over 40, as both of us field nasty looks, remarks, and so on from these SAME POLICE of social culture and rulers of the social roost.
my wife has to be barren as she suffers the punishments for my not choosing different parents when i was born, or the right gender.
I think what is being missed here as to the point of not saying anyting publicly, that we forget that social acceptance comes today from doing that and being in ones face over that. so you have young kids dressed up in leather by their gay parents and paraded around like tiny sex toys at the folsom street fair, and thats ok… but Woody having a woody for a woman who chooses him is not.
why did woody do that? well there is a problem the wealthy have, and thats that they lead insulated lives in which they dont get to associate with lots of others. so woody get soon yi, bill gates gets his assistant, paris hilton blows her hairdresser, and so on. (See the pattern in which these are the only people that have regular access to the persons in question, and whose wealth keeps them from others)
Personally i get tired myself at the way people treat me and i am not even woody allen wealthy!!! but i get similar kinds of aprobation from random people on the street… notes slipped, comments as i go to the bathroom, people on the train stare, with the worst being militant feminist women who decide to literally get in my face yelling and knowing that if i respond the world will pound me into the concrete.
for the left proposing that the world has too little love, they sure dont foment love, peace, togetherness etc, unless its their contradictory terms.
think that loving a woman that the world thinks i should not love makes her life and mine good? its just one more crime of the century to add to my docket of the crimes of being white, being responsible for slavery despite my family not arriving here till post 1940s, and so on..
note that its ok if i am an anglophile and love british culture… and its ok if i might be a russophobe, or a ruskie lover. or the liker of latvians, but one thing i cant possibly have is a healthy love for a women from asia!!!!!!!!!
in fact, my love is told to me to be a fetish, not even a philic love… no one cares if i actually love asian culture or not…
the whole thing is assumed because i met my wife in a deli and did not marry someone of my station, age, culture, etc.
and this is from the people who say i am racist!!
Asian fetish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_fetish
Asian fetish is a slang term for an interest, appreciation, or preference for people, culture, or things of Asian origin by those of non-Asian descent. The term Asiaphile is sometimes used to describe the same phenomenon as is yellow fever (not to be confused with the disease yellow fever)
yeah.. anyone here who has loves a african and calls that black death? or loves spanish and calls it taco fever?
Columbia study on racial preferences in dating
In 2007 economist Ray Fisman, in a two-year study he co-authored on dating preferences among Columbia University students, did not find evidence of a general preference among white men for Asian women. Furthermore, the study found that there is a significantly higher pairing of White men with East Asian women because East Asian women discriminate against Black and Hispanic/Latino men. As quoted on Slate.com, and also reported in The Washington Post and the Review of Economic Studies (a publication of the London School of Economics):
but do you think that stops these throwbacks in history that blamed men for the restrictions that, if one thinks, are actually dictated by women… preferably powerful women who didnt particularly like being out of the running when some young woman showed up letting it all hang out..
but you see, its not about truth, and its not about love, its about CONTROL.
[for the record, i know woody allen, and have not met soon yi. i knew woody from working at Kaufman Astoria studios where woody used to do three projects a year and show up…]
also, why doesnt john lennon get the same crap for yoko? cause yoko wasnt young and the feminst racialists were not gonna get him? john is not jewish, but woody is…
why dont they also go after the people who marry their adopted sisters? or brothers?
what woody and i get are this:
Racist love
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist_love
Racist love is a term used by some social activists to describe a form of racism.
i would say that their view of these things are very racist and often a mish mosh of things that are not connected and often eroneously portrayed… and connected in odd ways that are not at all correct other than if your an alien who arived on the planet and took a look and decided to complain as to the assumptions you have as being reality for all
Frank Chin, perhaps the best known of the androcentric cultural nationalist writers, relies on misogyny and homophobia in his attempt to delineate and construct a (hetero)normative Asian American manhood. In his critique of racist Hollywood caricatures of Asian men, for example, Chin glorifies stereotypes of aggression in black, Latino, and Native American men
yeah… outside of college he couldnt flip burgers and get paid, but inside, he can spout all kinds of erudite sounding catch phrases and be called a genius just like the pomo essay generator was a genius.
http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/
SAMPLE:
the average leftist academic has a mind that would horribly fail the turing test…
Anna Akana on you tube:
Why Guys Like Asian Girls // Anna Akana
[its not nice… and this is what my wife and i have to deal with outside the indonesian groups, etc… all she can do is rant as to the party line]
and here is an asian woman taking her to task:
The Myth Of Yellow Fever Why do Asian girls fetishize white men?
http://www.returnofkings.com/52631/the-myth-of-yellow-fever
Why is yellow fever different from having a “type”
http://www.thebolditalic.com/articles/3180-why-yellow-fever-is-different-than-having-a-type-
How do people in interracial marriages feel about slang terms such as ‘yellow fever’ or ‘Jungle Fever’?
I think ‘Yellow fever ‘is the most well known term, in reference to people of other races who marry Asians, another is ‘Jungle fever’ in reference to people who marry Africans.
http://www.quora.com/How-do-people-in-interracial-marriages-feel-about-slang-terms-such-as-yellow-fever-or-Jungle-Fever
from Reddit Mens Rights area:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2w5u5b/media_attacks_yellow_fever_but_ignores_more/
and now you know why your creeped out when you see this when 50 years you would not bat an eye… its because they told you to think that the preferences of white men, and especially older white men, are to be declared creepy, and women in general feel what their masters (feminists) dictate them to feel… (not all of course, but a vast majority! how else do you turn a home, children, good living into a “happy Gulag” if your subjects would not accept being told to think what youw ant them to? )
For the guys that prefer Asian girls (Yellow Fever), are you able to describe why?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/1v2c2r/for_the_guys_that_prefer_asian_girls_yellow_fever/
and on and on it goes…
Does anyone recognize the shear humor in all this? Here is a man who owes his fame off of making fun of the foibles of the average person turning himself into an outsider rightfully condemned by the society he became rich off of making fun of?
Irony does rule the universe.
His story could feature in one of his own films.
Wait a minute, didn’t he make film about himself having an affair with a high school student?
As for his new age fascism: I encountered this before, supposedly normal people ascribe some sort of superior moral insight and goals to Obama. It seems these people can’t come to grips with the tragedy, failure and evil in their world and seek solace in fantasy as a defense mechanism.
Mia Farrow is a nut job just like Ashley judd turned out to be, and A Jolie, etc… (even add in susan sarandon)… i have met farrow and sarandon… never met judd who got so bad her family started ignoring her, and jolie is a emasculating man hating wack job of the tenth degree, and more so compared to her father a staunch conservative.
on another note.
YARMARSKAR are you listening, are you out there? turned out the planned parenthood hacker thing WAS a hoax just as i said it was… and NOT how you said it was. time to reassess your superior gameboy created tactical strategic analysis!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks Like Planned Parenthood Has Resorted to Hate Hoax
the communists refer to this as making history
the rest of us call this scamming the people
besides, almost ALL the services they claim to provide, but only give referals for, are now covered under the ACA and makes them superflous other than as a ideological fascistic extermination center in which the femNazis there can sell off the the stuff they get from exterminating others, the way the nazi party sold off things that belonged to the 12 million…
I’ve seen a number of people say that they wish Obama could be a dictator so he could really get things done.
To me, that is the scariest thing I’ve ever heard with regard to politics. I don’t care if they are talking about Obama or the second coming of Reagan.
People like that lead us to another Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany.
You know, if he’d just been having a fling with a younger girl, I can agree with the general bad attitude towards his relationship with her, but, first off, there are two sides to every story, and I cannot see his relationship with Farrow, know what dissatisfied him with it, etc., etc….
Second off, its longevity does strongly suggest it’s a matter of being in love for both of them.MAYBE it’s some weird kind of predator-dependency relationship, but we can’t know that, nor is it fair to presume it.
So, no, I don’t have a problem with a man who clearly fell in love with someone not being quite as upstanding and duty bound and even, yes, “honorable” in the face of it.
Many men have done VASTLY worse things for love in the history of humanity.
This is one of those things, to me, that says: “Let it go. God will be the final judge.”
No, that doesn’t mean you have to like and appreciate him at all, but… this is harping on what happened 20 years ago.
Act as though he didn’t exist, and isn’t a worthy topic/subject for conversation, is my suggestion.
YARMARSKAR are you listening, are you out there? turned out the planned parenthood hacker thing WAS a hoax just as i said it was… and NOT how you said it was. time to reassess your superior gameboy created tactical strategic analysis!!!!!!!!!!!
It won’t be a hoax for long once Reddit and gamergate hear about it. Copycats love that kind of attention.
People like you aren’t interested in fighting the Left, because you bow down to them and lick the heels of their feminist shock troops, Art Ful. However, this kind of PP modus operandi merely gives people ideas.
I highlighted the crack of PP because it is the kind of thing that people should consider, in a serious light. Cyberwarfare is a solid part of 4th gen warfare. So is propaganda and illusions.
And no, Art Ful Dodger, you still can’t have my attention because you haven’t changed. So long as you refuse to change, you aren’t worth my attention.
This is one of those things, to me, that says: “Let it go. God will be the final judge.”
God doesn’t exist in Hollywood. Rapists and child molestors, however, do.
Best thing I ever saw about a WA movie–I haven’t seen many–was where he was shoved ahead in time and things were really weird. He goes into a tunnel and finds an ancient VW Beetle covered in layers of dust.
Jumps in and it starts instantly.
Other than that bit….yawn.
Gweneth Paltrow is another sycophant who whines about the misfortune that Obama is not accorded
dictatorial powers….
She actually proposed some type of legislative action to get there. (Did these people fail to graduate from high school or what ????)
Arfldgr:
You write “why doesnt john lennon get the same crap for yoko?”
First of all, Lennon got TONS of crap for yoko (although not from me). Crap of all kinds—a lot of fans hated him (and her especially) for what they saw as breaking up the Beatles, her lack of talent, her looks—-all sorts of things, including her race (if you Google, it’s out there; I don’t want to link to it).
The other point is that Yoko Ono was not the daughter of Lennon’s previous girlfriend. Nor was she the sister of Lennon’s children.
All my criticism of Allen involves the fact that Soon-Yi was his girlfriend’s daughter and his children’s sibling, and the effect their affair had on the entire family. As far as the rest is concerned, I literally could not care less about her ethnicity/race, and her age (as long as she was an adult when it began) is not my concern either.
Nor, by the way, have I seen criticism of him and Soon-Yi for her ethnicity/race. I would imagine it’s out there somewhere, but it certainly isn’t the focus for most people critical of him.
Artfldgr:
Who thinks it’s creepy for older men to have younger women?
I can’t say I’ve read every comment in this thread, but I don’t see anyone saying that. Nor did I.
Once again, I’ll reiterate that the criticism I’ve seen here and offered here is for him having an affair with the daughter of his girlfriend and the sister of his children, and then discounting that fact as of no importance or meaning, and ignoring the pain and disruption he caused that family, which included children who were legally his children (that was the case with two of Farrow’s kids—Allen had co-adopted Moses and Dylan with Mia Farrow, and the child then known as Satchel—now Ronan—was thought to be his biological child at the time and was legally his child).
Artfldgr:
I just noticed your comment at 8:50 AM saying that you were not referring to me.
So I get that.
I’m still not sure who on this thread you are referring to, though (although I haven’t gone over it with a fine-tooth comb). I wouldn’t doubt there are people out there, however, who criticize Allen because of the age difference or the ethnicity/race thing, but the great majority of what I’ve seen out there focuses on the outrage of the familial relationship rather than those aspects.
Dion:
Dion:
The post never suggests that a crime occurred, and explicitly says that Soon Yi was past the age of consent. The entire point of the post has to do with the emotional damage done to Farrow and her other children by the fact that their father Woody Allen (for three of them) or their stepfather Woody Allen (for the others) was having sex with their sister.
Clear now?
Orson:
The point of this post—and what makes Allen’s behavior narcissistic—was not the respective ages of Soon-Yi and Allen. It was the fact that Allen had a sexual relationship with the daughter of his girlfriend and the sister of his children (Ronan, Dylan, and Moses Farrow). This had profound negative effects on the family, effects he has never acknowledged and has in fact denied.
Hollywood’s sexual relations in house were always distorted. Recall the Vista shooter and his playboy father. Or the various parents of some female actors and singers that come up in the media.
If you are a normal person and you grow up in a traditional so to speak household with gender separations, but you end up in Hollywood or come under the influence of a Hollywood big shot… The chances of you not getting screwed up somehow, is difficult to say.
But these guys are the ones teaching your children, directly via entertainment like Game of Thrones, or indirectly through Leftist educators, what sex, love, and normal relations are. Just imagine how that works.