Four Marines killed at Chattanooga Naval and Marine Reserve Center
The circumstances are as follows, as far as we know up to now:
The attacks, which happened minutes apart, began when a single shooter, identified as 24-year-old Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, drove a silver Ford Mustang convertible to a Lee Highway recruiting center at 10:45 a.m and fired more than a dozen rounds into the building. After his initial barrage, he led responding police officers on a high-speed chase down Amnicola Highway to a second military installation, where he opened fire again and was killed after a gun battle that one witness estimated lasted 20 minutes.
Three victims were rushed to Erlanger’s Trauma Center, including a Chattanooga police officer and two members of the military. One of those patients was discharged from Erlanger this afternoon; the other two are still being treated. Including the victim, the violence claimed five lives, with three more wounded.
Officials have said the shooter died during the attack, though they did not say how he died. During the attack on Amnicola Highway, numerous Chattanooga and Hamilton County officers “actively and enthusiastically” engaged the suspect, said Chattanooga Police Chief Fred Fletcher.
The motive behind the attack, which the FBI said came without warning, is still under investigation. A U.S. official said there was no indication Abdulazeez was on the radar of federal law enforcement before the shootings, according to the Associated Press.
So, I think we can safely say that this is almost certainly a case of Islamic terrorism. How hooked into terror networks Abdulazeez was is unknown; he could be a lone wolf who was merely inspired by their propaganda, or more closely connected. He was born in Kuwait, and no one seems to know whether he was a US citizen or not, although one would think that would be easy enough to determine. He has an engineering degree from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, was on his high school (in Chattanooga) wrestling team, and is said to have been popular with his classmates.
Interesting how well this fits the profile of another US Islamic terrorist born in an Muslim country, on the wrestling team, and popular: that would be Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. I wonder whether Abdulazeez was also an affable stoner.
We also know that Abdulazeez was “was a student intern a few years ago at the authority, a federally owned utility that operates power plants and dams across the South.” Interesting. It’s also not surprising that he was an engineering student; for some reason this particular background is very very common among more well-educated jihadis.
It would also be interesting to know how long ago his family came here, and why. An almost laughable (if the topic weren’t so very serious) Onion-esque article on Yahoo features an interview with a high school classmate of Abdulazeez’s who is quoted as saying, “”They were your average Chattanooga family.”
Right.
[NOTE: A related issue is why on earth places like the venue of the shooting still are required to be gun-free zones. You might as well call them “sitting-duck zones.” It’s a topic I wrote about before here.]
That would be “Naval,” not “Navel.”
During WWI the acknowledged Caliph of the Sunni Muslim world, the Ottoman emperor, was hard pressed. The Caliphate issued fatwas calling for Muslims to rise up in jihad. They cited three forms of jihad, and provided Quranic references as well as support from the Sunnah of Muhammad (Sunnis get their name from the fact that they are adherents of the Sunnah).
First was the jihad of the entire Ummah, the entire population of faithful Sunnis. Second was jihad in small groups. And finally jihad by individuals.
What Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez did today was jihad. It goes back to the roots of Islam. We need to be honest about it.
Trump has already come out in favor of allowing troops to be armed. He seems to have his finger on the pulse of voters.
Let’s see how long it takes Obama to call the attack Islamic terrorism or radical Islam.
Check out the piece on PJM.
He was “Hijabman” in his high school yearbook.
He was nurtured by us.
It must stop.
Arrest and deport the entire extended family and the entire Muslim neighborhood. Enough is enough.
The leftists are so excited they are high fiving as they piss their hello kitty panties. Once upon a time there will be a day of reckoning.
Mr. Frank… when hell freezes over.
President Barack Obama sent a celebratory message to Muslims around the world on the White House Twitter account nearly two hours before his first tweet on the subject of four dead Marines killed by an Islamic gunman:
“From my family to yours, Eid Mubarak!” –@POTUS to Muslims celebrating Eid-ul-Fitr,” the White House tweeted. This message was tweeted at 4:48 p.m. according to the White House Twitter feed.
I blame the voters.
TWICE!
Steve57:
Thanks, fixed.
You’re welcome, neo. I hope I didn’t come across as a jerk. I’m not a spelling Nazi. It’s just that I spent 20 years in the Navy and I understand it’s an easy mistake to make, but it’s one I feel compelled to point out.
Steve57:
I always welcome correction of my spelling errors and grammar mistakes. After all, when I write “navel” for “naval,” I’m the one who comes across looking like a jerk if I don’t fix it.
HS classmate calls them *the typical Chatanooga
family* , yikes ! Great discernment skills there !
On Kelly file tonight they say his father was investigated for terror connections.
BTW my favorite orangs is the naval.
hey I corrected the spelling to orange, what happened ????
Comic relief, epic fail !
Chechnya, where the Tsarnaev brothers were born, is not an Arab country. Technically, it’s not a country at all, but a region of Russia.
Ripple Earthdevil:
Yes, I knew it is not an Arab country; that was a careless error. I meant Muslim country. And technically, it seems to have gone in and out, back and forth, between being a country and not a country.
Deport. Them. NOW.
Nah, actually, just fly them over the Atlantic and kick them out the door halfway over.
I notice that the Southern cops “enthusiastically” engaged in shooting the jihadi !@!#!$. They’ve been spoilin’ to get into the fight. But the blood of those Marines is on, primarily, Bill Clintoon’s hands, and George Bush’s (for NOT rescinding this order), and Hussein’s.
Old Hussein is having himself a red letter day, isn’t he? Securing the doom of all those Jooos in Israel with the Iranian nuke deal; now one of his allies in the creed has killed some white Southern military men. He must be beside himself.
Neo said:
“So, I think we can safely say that this is almost certainly a case of Islamic terrorism.”
NO! NO! NO! How dare you insult the religion of peace? Arrest that kaffir already. The one thing we now for sure, even before anyone investigates, is that the appropriate authorities will anounce that the murders are not related to Islam. That is self evident truth.
If he were a Christian or a Jew, of course we would know that Christians and Jews all around the World are responsible, must apologize, and must avow that they reject the parts of their filthy holy books which cause violence. But Islam can not possibly be responsible. In this case, Neo is guilty of hate speech for even suggesting that Islam has anything to do with this violence. It is impossible to link Islam with violence, all good smart lefties know that. The truth about Islam, that it is a religion of peace, has been established through infallible a priori reasoning and anyone who suggests otherwise is a racist and an Islamophobe.
Néo said:
“So, I think we can safely say that this is almost certainly a case of Islamic terrorism.”
Errr… We don’t know for sure sure sure:
On Thursday’s The Lead, CNN analyst Tom Fuentes was unwilling to conclude that the perpetrator of a mass shooting against servicemen in Chattanooga, Tennessee was Muslim. John Berman asked the former FBI assistant director, “Now that we have the name [Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez], the key questions are what?” Fuentes replied, “I know…what the name sounds like, but we don’t know that it’s a Muslim name. We know it’s an Arabic name. We don’t know what this individual was believing in, and that’s what they’re going to be trying to determine.”
What the Israelis would do is bulldoze the kid’s family house. That’s not an option for us, but I can see why it makes sense.
This would be funny; except it keeps happening; the MSM seems to always use the same boilerplate language in these cases:
“The motive behind the attack . . . is still under investigation.”
A guy named “Mohammad” shots up a place, and the “motive” is still under investigation?
(Yet, a guy waving a confederate battle flag shoots up a place and his motive isn’t under investigation – it is just assumed to be hate because of the flag.)
If you don’t want to fight them in Iraq… guess what.
The reason why Demoncrats sabotaged the Iraq conflict by helping Islamos and getting more Americans killed so the MSM can report on it, is because they needed their allies in a strategically more useful location. America, not the ME. They needed their allies here. I don’t suppose an explanation of why is needed at this point.
We can see how assimilation has worked with Muslims.
My husband had the local news on this morning and this story was reported like one reading a boring script. The next “story” was the weather and for some reason jubilation complete with clapping ensued. It looked like adult kindergartners. But let a “white-Hispanic” or police officer shoot a thug or criminal and all the emotion and concern emerges. Not to mention the immediate jumps to motive. What a world!!
Read that his father is Palestinian and was investigated for terrorist ties; but nothing came of it. Now I read that they are investigating–after the fact–that the murderer made numerous trips to the Middle East. But, no alarms.
Of course all of his acquaintances say he was a picture perfect youth. One high school coach called him an All American kid. Yeah. Right up to the time he decided to attack the United States.
I wonder when we are going to get serious. I wonder when the FBI, et al, will pay close attention to what is taught in Mosques; and act accordingly if sedition is preached. I wonder why the NSA, which supposedly spies on all of us, doesn’t know what filth is passing on social media, etc. Can we not block that which threatens our security?
Oldflyer, read Andy McCarthy’s book, Willful Blindness” and you needn’t wonder. This is business as usual, except under President GWB, who was reviled by not only the Democrats, but the majority of the voting public as well. And here we are. Truly the title of that book explains it all.
Good question on “gun free zones”.
It is a bipartisan, imbecilic policy, untethered from reality.
There NEVER is a gun free zone as the criminals ALWAYS have guns. Its part of the delusions of anti-gunners of both parties. None of the mass shootings would have taken place or been as bad if the innocents had been armed.
On military installations, at a minimum, all officers and NCO’s should always be armed. It’s like off duty police who carry.
Goto crimeresearch.org for John Lott’s website on guns and crime.
Under the Bush admin, the FBI and various spying agencies turned back the tide of terrorism via high level captures and counter attacks. Under Hussein, various orgs are selling weapons and training to terrorists. Coincidence?
The FBI says it came without warning, but that just means the Muslim Brotherhood in charge of training FBI, threw the data away and fired anyone that had suspicions or spoke up about it.
It’s similar to the culture of diversity that Casey wanted to fortify at Ft. Hood, which led to Nidal Ft Hood 1.
How is it that the motives of the lone wolf Muslim jihadists are always deemed to be’ unknown’, yet those of a redneck punk murderer in SC are so obviously in line with those of millions of Americans?
How stupid do they think Americans are?
And how stupid, in fact, is the American populace?
The demented kid in S. Carolina, who had photos of himself with the CSA Battle Flag, assassinates innocents in a church and a week later Amazon, eBay, and others stop selling the Battle Flags and many try to ban or at least decry its use.
Do you think anyone will try to stop selling Korans, burkahs, etc.? They are becoming a “trigger” for me.
carl in atlanta Says:
July 17th, 2015 at 1:16 pm
And how stupid, in fact, is the American populace?
This stupid:
West Point Revokes Diplomas Of Confederate Graduates.
The sheeple, united, shall never be defeated ….
Obama has made it abundantly clear that America must pay for its past sins, and in pursuit of that the country will not be defended.
In response to ISIS, Obama makes the most pathetic of pinprick strikes. As a result they are emboldened to attack us directly through radicalization or use of jihadis in the US. With his recent capitulation to Iran he has signaled the world that not only will we finance and support terrorism we will do nothing extraordinary to stop it. And finally he has refused to defend us by securing America’s borders.
Under Barack Obama America is a sitting duck nation.
RIP Chattanooga Marines.
G6loq, I read that the West Point story is false. It was written on a military satirical blog.
Sharon W Says:
July 17th, 2015 at 1:48 pm
G6loq, I read that the West Point story is false. It was written on a military satirical blog.
I know but we want to stay ahead of the curve …
On the curve:
Female Dr. Mengele-wannabe discussing the proper method for crushing a baby’s skull in order to preserve those high-dollar organs whilst noshing on her salad and Syrah…
The Democrats were never going to allow the South’s rebellion to go unpunished.
The war heroes of the South, such as anti slavery Lee, anti slavery Jackson, reformer minded Nathan Bedford Forrest, the Demoncrats will crush all of them and use them up as tools, just like in the past.
They will never forgive and they will never forget.
West point will do what they are ordered to do. What that will be, the Left is currently setting up. Await the surprise, it should be as great as the Diversity Casey at Ft Hood.
Besides, Hussein is laughing it up every time an America dies or is tortured. Half the reason the Left accused Bush of sending children to die in wars, is because the South provides a predominant number of entry level military personnel. The Left were always planning on getting Americans killed in foreign wars. Their complaint against Bush, from my sources, were merely indications that the Left were already planning on killing lots more than Bush ever could.
Imagine your neighbors, Democrats, Leftists, and at the top Hussein, getting a big phat smile on their face whenever Americans conveniently die in foreign wars. That is what they support and wish for. It gets rid of inconvenient voters and paves the way for colonization. Then consider how you should treat these… “Americans”.
How in the world can any place be it a military base, recruitment office anything related to the MILITARY be a GUN FREE ZONE! That’s insane.
And this guys post that his name alone caused suspicion?
If the US denied entry of all named Muhammad … what % of terrorist would not be allowed in the US?
I’d say as much as 50%!
Ymarsakar, you’re right. They’re the Enemy Within.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.
An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
–Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106 – 46 BC
jack Says:
July 17th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
How in the world can any place be it a military base, recruitment office anything related to the MILITARY be a GUN FREE ZONE! That’s insane…
It is Bush’s fault actually.
Why read satire?
This seems to state better than I — sitting duck nation.
http://www.steynonline.com/7054/the-enemy-within
Ft. Hood didn’t happen under Bush.
Times change, and strategic decisions have different outcomes when the eras shift.
G6loq Says:
July 17th, 2015 at 2:20 pm
jack Says:
July 17th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
How in the world can any place be it a military base, recruitment office anything related to the MILITARY be a GUN FREE ZONE! That’s insane…
It is Bush’s fault actually.
Why read satire?
Then Bush and all others should come out and say … WE WERE WRONG!
By definition all MILITARY sites should be armed to the teeth!
To G6loq re your comment at 1:43 pm:
That one ruined my day.
HuffPo Declares Trump Campaign News Will Be Moved To Entertainment Section:
After watching and listening to Donald Trump since he announced his candidacy for president, we have decided we won’t report on Trump’s campaign as part of The Huffington Post’s political coverage. Instead, we will cover his campaign as part of our Entertainment section.
Annoying all the right people ….
Mr. Frank:
If you can’t trust your own people, who can you trust? Perhaps class diversity and trans psychoses have a progressive risk profile.
Should bulldoze Ayers’ mansion. People know that he has one right?
Here’s the Snopes on that West Point Revokes Diplomas Of Confederate Graduates article:
http://m.snopes.com/confederate-diplomas-revoked/
False, thank God, but I was wasn’t surprised to see it; just more dismayed than I already was.
Citizen protecting Military gun free zones!:
The morning after a deadly attack on two military centers in Chattanooga, residents in Hiram are standing watch outside the local recruiting office with their personal firearms. It is their unique way of honoring the fallen Marines and they said to protect the lives of those who serve in the military…
carl in atlanta Says:
July 17th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Here’s the Snopes on that West Point Revokes Diplomas Of Confederate Graduates article…
False, thank God, but I was wasn’t surprised to see it; just more dismayed than I already was….
Just a matter of time Carl.
Meanwhile I’d like to suggest that you embrace the suck.
The times we’re in …. what could possibly go wrong?
The citizens are the only protection a nation has against domestic enemies. The military usually is the backup, not the primary defense line.
Even in Baltimore, the unarmed citizens were protecting the cops. And we should obey the LEOs and offer our lives because they protect us? Spoken like a serf, of course. Citizens protected the police in Baltimore.
Does the term “Armed Forces” mean those in the military have two appendages with fingers on the ends?
susana, I think it generally means people who carry weapons in their arms, but there are other traditions where H2H fighters considered their own body and minds to be weapons. That is not always practical though.
To the Leftist alliance, the “armed forces” are two things:
1. Cannonfodder that they use to make American families suffer and their Islamic Jihad allies happy with rape and torture.
2. Cannonfodder that the Left likes to order to do their dirty work.
Ymarsakar Says:
July 18th, 2015 at 12:14 am
The citizens are the only protection a nation has against domestic enemies. The military usually is the backup, not the primary defense line…
And, 9/11, the citizen defended the government, not the other way around …
}}} “”They were your average Chattanooga family.”
Well, except that they were Islamic. I might be wrong, but I don’t think that’s an “average” component of Chattanooga just yet…
https://youtu.be/Rd8cRvZZv44