Holder the destroyer: prepared to “dismantle” the Ferguson police force
The Department of Justice has released its report on the police force of Ferguson, triggered by its investigation of possible charges against Darren Wilson. The charges were dropped because all the credible evidence pointed to his innocence, but the report found the department guilty (without benefit of trial).
I’ve read many discussions (on both sides) of the DOJ report, the findings of which basically charge the Ferguson police with systemic racism against the black population of Ferguson. I’ve read most but not all of the report itself; it’s over 100 pages of dense reading, a great deal of it resting on something that resembles a sociological research study.
I’ve been mulling over what I will write about it, because it’s the sort of thing that would literally take a book to explain, and I don’t have time to write a book on it.
This post is not that book. It’s not even the post (or series of posts) I would like to write on the subject, because even that is so long and technical I don’t know quite how to tackle it. But I’ll just say here that one of my main problems with the report is the shoddiness of the research itself. Social science research (a field in which I have quite a bit of training and some experience, as well) is notorious for how difficult it is to do correctly and especially to deal with the problem of uncontrolled variables in the real world. Therefore there is always a pressing need to attach multiple caveats to much of what’s said. None of this was accomplished in the DOJ report; I don’t think it was even attempted.
Whether or not the Ferguson police department was or is generally racist—and it’s certainly possible that it was/is—has not been proven by this report, although that’s what the DOJ wants you to believe, and what most people will take away from it.
I hope I get around to offering you more details soon about how I reached my conclusion. I plan to read the study in more depth, but I’ve given you my preliminary impression.
Which brings us to Eric Holder, head of the DOJ, who expressed the following:
Despite a Justice Department report clearing police officer Darren Wilson in the death of Michael Brown, Attorney General Eric Holder says he will do everything he can to change the law enforcement culture in Ferguson, Mo. If he feels the need to, Holder says he will seek to dismantle the Ferguson Police Department. “We are prepared to use all the powers that we have, all the power that we have, to ensure that the situation changes there,” Holder told reporters on Friday according to the White House pool report. “That means everything from working with them to coming up with an entirely new structure.”
Hey, you know what? I bet he’s prepared to use all the powers that they don’t have.
Moreover, the feds have got a lot of feelings about it:
He warned police departments across the country to heed his words, lest he go after them next. “I hope they’re listening to these comments, and understand the intensity with which the feelings are felt at the federal government level to ensure that we use all the tools that we can to make sure that what happened in Ferguson is uncovered and simply does not happen in any other part of the country,” Holder said. “But I also want to make people understand, there are 18,000 police departments in this country, and I think what we saw in Ferguson was an anomaly.”
Actually, many of the Ferguson statistics are fairly typical of police departments all over the country, including in liberal states and municipalities, and in police departments with large percentages of black officers—as I discovered from my own internet surfing on the subject. I am pretty sure Holder—or whoever wrote the study—knows that, too, because they’ve already investigated plenty of those cities and found them racist. Consider yourself warned.
[NOTE: Here’s an article that goes into some of the critiques of the DOJ report and its research methods, especially regarding the doctrine of “disparate impact.”]
Shouldn’t the state government be the first level of government to deal with any problems associated with a city police force?
Mr. Frank:
Read the Andrew McCarthy link I added in the NOTE at the end. The feds sneak in under a statute passed in the 90s.
Ferguson is 67% black. The city government is mostly white. I presume the city government makes the laws (to increase revenue) that the police have to enforce. Why in the hell don’t the people vote in a different government?
I am so sick of the race hustlers who blame everything wrong in America on whites. Why don’t blacks care about black boys from about 2 to 20? Whether it’s lousy parents or an irresistable black culture that tells kids that reading is acting white, the wasted childhood and teen years of black kids are not caused by whites. Young people need to learn skills and to receive recognition when they accomplish real things. Today, all too many seem to be turned loose into the neighborhoods where macho rules. It’s disgusting.
Many years ago the New Jersey State Police were charged with racial profiling in stops for speeding. Last Fall Ann Coulter wrote a column about a study which debunked that charge. http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-09-03.html
Blacks were much more likely to speed on the New Jersey turnpike and were stopped in proportion to their speeding behavior.
For decades now the left has been pushing the idea that blacks and whites are no different except for skin color. In reality the differences are huge on many variables that are related to behavior.
The left wants control of all law enforcement agencies, including the county sheriff’s office. A totalitarian state demands no less.
Mr. Frank:
Yes.
What’s been going on with this disparate impact thing is huge, and it affects much more than police departments. It’s been a big crusade of the DOJ particularly under Holder, but I don’t think it began with Holder although it’s picked up a lot of steam. It affects education and banking also; lots of articles about that (see this and this).
The conflation of science and philosophy through excessive use of inference claims more victims. The liberal interpretation of the scientific domain that routinely crossed over into the other three logical domains: fantasy (e.g. spontaneous conception), faith (e.g. assumptions of uniformity and independence), and philosophy (e.g. selective morality or pro-choice), has returned to haunt the people who first indulged in its narcissistic appeal.
Does DOJ have statutory authority for such an extreme remedy?
I have never heard of dismantling a local police department. There would have to be a lawsuit and a federal judge would have to agree.
I detest Holder. I despise Obama. Nearly 2-years left for the scrawny moral coward-leftist to sentence ruin upon our country.
Are we not blessed?
I blame the voters …
Meanwhile, Mr. Holder call your office;
Ferguson to Madison:
Black folks make up 6% of the county population, and nearly 50% of the county jail population. – See more at:
Madison
Same in any Democ.rat controlled areas ….
Holder is a Bahamian, his father was stopped one time in the US as I understand it &
(according to Holder et al in their circle) his dignity was severely damaged & sensabilities supremely offended to
be questioned by a law enforcement officer. Apparently Holder & his ilk seem to THINK this never happens to white people. Imagine that !!!!
Cops never stop white people ya ‘ll, white privilege & all that ~! Therefore police in 50 states need to be disbanded from the ground up, after all one wonderous Bahamian was offended !
cornhead:
From Andrew McCarthy, written in December of 2014:
Here’s the act (it’s really long). But this is how it’s done: by lawsuit and a consent decree.
”the DOJ report… basically charge[s] the Ferguson police with systemic racism against the black population of Ferguson. …I’ve been mulling over what I will write about it, because it’s the sort of thing that would literally take a book to explain, and I don’t have time to write a book on it. This post is not that book. It’s not even the post (or series of posts) I would like to write on the subject, because even that is so long and technical I don’t know quite how to tackle it.”
I suspect that arguably, such a book or even post(s) would be a waste of your time neo. I have no doubt that you would shred the DOJ report with fact, logic and reasoned argument. But you would be preaching to the choir and more importantly, failing to address the motivations of the DOJ report. Which is NOT about racial ‘justice’, redress of grievance or entrenched white racism.
Holder and Obama are racists and like all racists they seek dominance for their tribe. This is about tribal dominance. This is about their perception of an inability of their black tribe to compete on a level playing field. Individually, many blacks are fully capable of competing but on a societal level, they lack the attributes that would bring success. Thus, the excuses.
No one argues that blacks unjustly dominate professional sports, where merit is all. No one argues that blacks do not merit the success they have achieved in the entertainment fields. But where the determinant for success is steady, focused discipline toward mastery and goals, blacks as a group show little achievement.
Of course its cultural and therein lies the rub, to achieve success they have to adopt the necessary attributes which are not part of black culture, either domestically or in the overwhelming majority of African cultures. They have to ‘give up’ being ‘solely’ black and become more white (or Asian). Rather than accept the sacrifices demanded by a strong work ethic, long hours of intellectual study and disciplined efforts, they seize the excuse of racist oppression.
While constrained by constitutional safeguards, the means that the Obama administration are using is implied intimidation, which McCarthy admirably illuminates. Parker’s salient comment above elucidates the end goal for the left, effective control of all local police. Sooner or later, as it always does, the Left must remove its ‘velvet’ glove, for above all else, sustainability of totalitarian systems requires near-total control.
Commenter expat cries out, “I am so sick of the race hustlers who blame everything wrong in America on whites. Why don’t blacks care about black boys from about 2 to 20? Whether it’s lousy parents or an irresistable black culture that tells kids that reading is acting white, the wasted childhood and teen years of black kids are not caused by whites. Young people need to learn skills and to receive recognition when they accomplish real things.’
They don’t care about those things because to do so requires looking in the mirror without excuse.
The whites who support Holder and Obama fall into two categories; the majority do so out their personal mix of white guilt, a resultant rejection of America’s foundational culture and clueless, well-meaning naivete. A minority out of a drive to achieve personal power, status and wealth.
No amount of slicing and dicing the DOJ report will lessen these motivations. They are TWANLOC.
Long ago Samuel Adams spoke of their ancestral cousins; If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom – go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
This reveals one of the big problems in searching for a solution. Under the city of Ferguson’s charter, the mayor and city council have no direct authority in the direction of city agencies, including the police. In a change in city governance from the Progressive Era, Ferguson is run by a “professional” and unelected City Manager. The mayor and city council have a vote in hiring the City Manager. They can also ask the City Mayor to direct or change something in the city agencies, but they cannot direct the City Manager to make those changes, nor are they permitted to speak publicly or privately with city employees on the conduct of their duties.
So the question is, Is the problem with the elected part-time officials or with the City Manager? Are cities run on the powerful City Manager model more likely or less likely to use cite and fine of the poorest and least politically connected citizens for revenue generation?
Then we get to the racial angle: Did the fact that the least politically connected citizens were of a different race than the police and city government cause the cite and fine revenue generations regime to be more vigorously pursued than it might have been with a less “diverse” population?
JK Brown:
This sheds quite a bit of light on the fine-collection situation in Ferguson and in the St. Louis area in general. Seems to be a complex situation much less police-generated than judge-generated.
So the question is,
Is the problem with the elected part-time officials or with the City Manager?is there actually a real problem or just a manufactured problem?Cities run on either the powerful City Manager model or a Mayor/ City Council model are more likely to use cite and fine of those citizens most inclined to break the law, which results in revenue generation. Which can then be pointed to as ‘proof’ of ‘oppression’.
“Then we get to the racial angle: Did the fact that the least politically connected citizens were of a different race than the police and city government cause the cite and fine revenue generations regime to be more vigorously pursued than it might have been with a less “diverse” population?”
As Mr Frank points out, do the crime, get the fine. Frequency of law breaking leads to stereotypes. Stereotypes do not lead to law breaking. For their to be smoke, there must first be fire.
Some of the discussion smacks of “smoke and mirrors”. So the city is actually governed by a powerful city manager? A city manager who serves at the pleasure of the elected Mayor and Council, I presume? In other words, it should be easy to control the city manager if there is the will.
Cite and fine still requires a probable cause to cite. In most municipalities the Judges who levy the fines are elected.
Expat pre-empted my original intent by correctly reporting that Ferguson is overwhelming Black (I had 65.4% to 30.75% in 2013). I surmise that they get the government that they are willing to go to the polls and elect.
There is a distinct chill in the air.
The DOJ came after the Seattle PD four years ago. They have had their wings clipped. My retired cop friend has a son on the SPD. He says that they are just going through the motions because they are in fear of their jobs if they get the least bit aggressive in their police work.
The result: Crime in the downtown area is mushrooming. Property crime – auto theft, burglary, and purse snatching are on the news nearly every night. Seattle is headed for the same chaos that New York had in the David Dinkuns era. Even the oh, so tolerant Seattle liberals are starting to complain. But it won’t do them any good. The SPD has a Federal monitor watching their every move.
Thanks, Eric Holder and Barack Obama.
Steve Sailer at Unz.com issued a challenge to his readers to find a town with significant black population that met Holder’s requirements. Success…towns with a major penal institution (because the prisoners are counted for residency purposes, but hopefully aren’t committing much additional crime) meet the standard.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/eric-holder-challenge-ive-found-cities-in-southern-california-with-below-black-arrest-rates/
Of course the boss, Ron Unz published one of the major articles pointing out why Holder is full-of-it:
http://www.unz.com/article/race-and-crime-in-america/
Hard NOT to have a disparate impact with THAT kind of correlation coefficient.
And for master class, you can review an article by that ‘Zorro of statisticians’ Le Griff du Lion:
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prison.htm
First Professor: Are you saying that liberals are the cause of the disparity ratio?
Prodigy : No. The disparity ratio is greater than unity because blacks commit more crime per capita than whites. Liberals simply tweak the ratios upward by setting high incarceration thresholds in jurisdictions they control. The tweaking is sufficient to produce an observable trend in which the largest disparity ratios are found in progressive states. Isn’t it ironic that the high disparity ratios found in progressive states are the result of the tolerance and goodwill we’ve learned to associate with progressive government?
New Yorkers, brace yourselves: It’s “DeBlasio Time!”
For example: I was in a gym yesterday, and a large black man came in and instead of paying in a civilized manner, threw change at the young (white) clerk, and snapped at her, “That’s how it’s done in New York!” She said “I’m sorry, but you need to pay for the session,” and he cursed her in the most vulgar terms, pimp-rolled over to a rack of merchandise, and threw it over, sending the goods everywhere.
So the gym people called 911. Time passed . . . and more time. . . . Finally the cops came in, and when the thug was pointed out to them, they walked over and politely asked him to leave with them. He gave them some lip, but they didn’t lay one hand on him, nor did they give him any orders. The manager said, “We need to see his ID,” and the cops said, “We’re not allowed to ask him anything.”
Finally they cajoled the thug to leave. Of course, if he nurses a grudge and comes back, there’s no protection for the employees or other patrons.
The cops made it VERY CLEAR that this is the New Regime’s Orders. Black perps are Not to be bothered, no matter WHAT they do.
Brace yourselves, people. The criminal class already has this figured out, and as soon as the weather warms, they’re going to be preying on innocents openly.
Neo
A lawsuit is an adversary process and the City of Ferguson doesn’t have to consent.
No consent means a trial and then a judgment.
I still can’t believe the police are THAT bad.
Unless these traffic tickets are falsely issued, the proximate cause of the tickets are the drivers themselves! Stop running reds.
Beverly:
You saw something very significant. The policy has changed.
And you are doubly right that crime will explode this summer.
The accounts from NYC and Seattle are also consistent with how Obama deals with the Islamlists and Iran. The only thing they understand is force of arms; a show of strength. Weak horse v strong horse.
You can’t negotiate a “fair” nuke deal with Iran because they cheat.
As others have said; tie the hands of police behind their backs and let the thugs run wild. That is what the future holds for many cities across the US.
For some to compare the “events” in Ferguson today to the Selma march decades ago is very dishonest. The march was a protest for basic civil rights, what is happening in Ferguson is thugs-gone-wild.
Holder and others are like limousine liberals; tell others that they just have to put up with thugs in the name of civil rights – then ride off in their chauffeur-driven limousines to their gated communities leaving the working and middle class to live (or die) from the fallout of letting thugs run wild.
Come to think of it; that is what they do with Israel – lecture Israel on Palestinian rights and ignore the thugs in Israel’s neighborhood.
I agree with expat. Blacks need to step up and become: teachers, policemen, at-home parents, etc. etc. Make the difference in your own communities. STEP UP
The libs are demanding your self defense armaments as well,
LOL even Pepper Spray is illegal inProgressive run States,
NY NJ MASS, Good luck with that plastic knife !
Disparate impact has been mathematically analyzed:
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prison.htm
and the results are impossible to rebut:
The more liberal the jurisdiction the more severely one will see statistical disparate impacts upon Blacks.
The mathematics that drives this take but a few pages. Do take the time to read the above link.
And with it, you’ll come to understand MOST of what’s driving this divisive issue — at all times and in all of society.
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There is a general refusal to recognize that there is such a thing as Black Culture — that MUST result in criminality — as the American statutes are actually designed around Judeo-Christian/ European norms.
Example ONE: Loitering in public.
Such a behavior is an EYE BALL MAGNET for Whites.
Such a behavior is entirely normal for young Black men and adolescents. Back in the Sahel, and points south, for hundreds of generations, walking ones turf/ patrolling/ standing guard is a universal behavior.
Beyond that, Blacks in that neck of the woods engage in gang/ collective behavior if they are at all socially normal.
In White American culture, gangs are universally associated with roving trouble.
( The SHARKS vs The JETS )
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West Side Story posits that the two warring factions were White trash versus Puerto Rican scum.
Whereas, even then, the gang divide would’ve been between ‘Spanish’ harlem and ‘African’ harlem.
}
All of which is a long way of saying:
If Black youth were back in Africa, they wouldn’t have any criminal record whatsoever.
Similarly, the troubled youths of Somalia living in Maine wouldn’t be on the police blotter back home.
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If you REALLY want peace, stop importing anti-cultural immigrants.
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What many, if not most, Blacks want is to live back in Africa — while still receiving American welfare benefits.
A staggering 38-45% of all American Blacks are Federally dependent… at least. This will NEVER CHANGE.
On present trends, Barry is lifting this metric into orbit.
Current young adult Blacks are unemployable — on the whole. Macro-economic policies have made them so.
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The solution is obvious: repatriate the sons of slavery back to Africa — on the Federal dime — and with a stipend for life.
The (Black) crime rate will collapse… both here and in Africa.
Those moving back will be able to afford a sweet home — and drastically better weather — than they ever could in Harlem, Chicago, or Saint Paul.
Africa’s population is so vast that even 30,000,000 souls is a drop in the demographic bucket.
And, genetically, American returnees and African natives would all be cousins… actually pretty hard to tell apart.
And rich cousins are sure to be popular just about anywhere they settle down.
Such a largesse would hardly make a ripple in the American budget.
Without government sponsorship, no migration could occur. The Feds ‘sponsored’ the homestead act that brought farmers to the west. The Feds sponsored Blacks to move north and west during WWII — THE great period that caused the urban ghettos of post-WWII fame.
And, of late, the Feds are sponsoring the mass invasion of Latinos across this land to change the voting matrix against White America.
Ethnic voting blocs come as natural as rain in the Pali for anyone raised in Honolulu. (cf Barry Soetoro)
1964- How dare you consider the color of my skin, judge me by my character.
2015- How dare you judge me by my character, consider the color of my skin.
It’s old but still relevant.
http://www.colorofcrime.com/
blert:
I assume you’re not serious about the “send them back to Africa” idea.
And although the black population (young black men in particular) are overrepresented in the criminal population—an undeniable fact—the majority of black people, even young black men, are not criminals. What’s more, they are all citizens of the US, and as such (even the criminals among them) cannot be “sent” back anywhere. Many of them have ancestors who have been here much longer than those of many other citizens of the US.
So you’re supposing to send them all back to Africa? As I said, I hope that’s some sort of joke on your part. Because it’s a terrible idea.
And by the way, genetically there is quite a difference between American blacks and African blacks. I have also read quite a few accounts of American black people visiting Africa, or living there for a while, and finding to their surprise how different they are from the local population, and how American. I have no idea where you get the notion that many or most black Americans want to live in Africa on American welfare. I have never heard a “let’s go back to Africa” sentiment expressed by any black American (although I would imagine such people do exist), much less large numbers of them. The opposite sentiment is often expressed:
Even back when Liberia was first settled, it wasn’t a very popular idea. Even then, most black Americans preferred being here.
Cornhead is right, Beverly did indeed see something significant.
“A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot…” R.A. Heinlein
Charles is right when he stated that, “tie the hands of police behind their backs and let the thugs run wild. That is what the future holds for many cities across the US.”
It’s going to get worse, especially in the urban areas and if a democrat wins in 2016… its over. All that will be left will be violent resistance because redress of grievance will be gone and what is left of constitutional restraints will be entirely ignored.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” ― Robert A. Heinlein
Related but slightly off topic; “No Promotion Unless A Commitment To Diversity Is Demonstrated, Air Force Sec Says’
“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute– get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.” Robert Anson Heinlein
SteveH 11:38
That says it all right there.
The US has become a racist nation again. With an important difference: the blacks running the show are more corrupt and way more thuggish than their white predecessors. Now we have Blackness Uber Alles. Whites may have trampled truth, but blacks steamroller it. John Lewis=case in point.
The parody of the 50th anniversary of Selma is illustrated by Colin Powell’s comments today. Blacks are still all victims, he says, due to the bad old GOP. He appears to count himself (Chief of Staff, SOS), Obama(POTUS) and Holder (AG) among the near-oppressed, though progress has been made. Oddly, he’s Jamaican; Baraq, Kenyan; Holder, Barbadian; their American roots are very very shallow.
The essence of being a -N-word- is in its self-pitying denial to The Man that anything is ever the N’s fault. We heard that aplenty from Selma yesterday.
neo…
Richard Pryor advanced just such an idea — the return to Africa — that is.
He admitted that all of the local Africans immediately treated him as a black ‘White’ — as ANYONE with an American passport was deemed — culturally — White.
This was a big part of the revolution in Liberia, BTW.
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On the DNA, they ARE cousins.
When the slave trade was rolling — the vast, vast, vast bulk of those enslaved came from south of the Sahel in western most Africa.
The reason is obvious, why would any slaver sail any further east? So, they didn’t.
American Blacks going back to Africa is hardly different than European Americans going back to their homelands.
Not withstanding their American cultural identities, such transits result in finding out just how fast, how completely, they blend in.
One is never sure where DNA leaves off and culture takes over.
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As for criminality…
I doubt very much if your sentiments are deeply held by the boys in D bloc.
There are countless inmates in our nation’s prisons who would’ve never transgressed, nor been convicted, if they’d been in their homelands.
Black culture — for MALES — in the sub-Sahel — is an out-and-about culture. The boys simply don’t stay home. This is and was the norm before European culture ever touched them.
You’ll find it constantly referenced from those who engaged in first contact — way back in the day.
With the weather in the sub-Sahel, it’s no wonder.
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The contrast with European norms is right in your face.
The seasons and weather up north make roaming the countryside for adolescent males a total non-starter.
The cold — over the eons of time — has morphed European DNA towards spending a LOT of time indoors.
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Offering life long stipends to live in the homeland — is what most Israelis would regard as a gift from heaven.
Indeed, that’s what’s on offer for those currently invading our nation courtesy of Barry Soetoro. The Feds are financing a wholesale population movement.
And, not for the first time.
Homestead Act
Federal employment subsidies / mandates during WWII.
Japanese internment — it’s an outlier.
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DO NOT CONFLATE VOLUNTARY RELOCATIONS to ethnic abuse.
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The Irish came to America — the colonies — largely to get out of ‘adolescent prison.’
For, that’s what the indenture system really entailed.
When offered the opportunity to either stay in gaol or to ship to America — under indenture — every soul hit the boats.
As to how they got in gaol?
Oprhan status was at the top of the list. Any kid found feeding himself (self help) was jailed for an economic crime — one sort or another. With no parents to pay the piper, the result was foregone.
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If given an opportunity to receive an American stipend — and just stay at home — MOST of the current wave of illegal aliens would stay at home.
They’re not fleeing Costa Rica because of political repression.
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There are countless Black voices demanding compensation for slavery.
It’s impossible to reverse the Holocaust — but it’s entirely possible to reverse the mega-crime of trans-oceanic enslavement.
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Living large, on the veranda, sipping mint juleps is hardly unappealing to most.
Right about now, it sounds like a great retirement plan for myself.
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There are countless angry Black Americans who fulsomely reject American culture. I’ve even worked with them — and productively, too.
Since Whites are being ethnically cleansed out of South Africa — just exactly who is going to replace their brains and talent?
I know from familial tales, they — the Blacks — FLATLY reject White economic and cultural advice.
Yes, they’re racists. They can’t abide Whites. And it greatly irritates them that Whites have all manner of material wealth.
Like Barry, they don’t associate ANY of the linkage to habits, norms, culture or thinking. Instead, they see an ‘unjust’ world.
One might note that this view is PANDEMIC in the Muslim ummah.
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If you REALLY want peace, then let each society go their own way.
We need to STOP any attempts at making Muslims into Christians, Blacks into Whites, and the Japanese into Americans.
We don’t have the magic. Evolution and progress is best left to God and each individual.
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American Jewry has made common cause with American Blacks. The result has been epic bitterness by the Black community.
The Black experience does NOT dove tail with the Jewish experience.
Ask Sharpton, Rangel, Farrakhan… et. al.
Anti-Semites to a man.
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Forcing White cultural norms on Blacks…
Forcing Black cultural norms on Whites…
Forcing …
Playing God…
Only brings hate, misery, criminality, bitterness and resentment.
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As it stands, if any ex-slave wants to move back to Africa — they are economically cut off.
You don’t even see that with Jews relocating to Israel.
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I maintain that what’s fine for Jews — and Europeans — ought to be enabled for Black Americans who ALSO want to return to their roots back home.
What took the Jews 2,000 years ought not take Black slave descendents any further delay.
Since they are entitled to Federal welfare for their lifetimes — in about half the population — I see no reason why that stipend ought to be cut off should they also make Aliyah — Black African style.
American Israelis are a boon to Israel.
I contend that American Blacks would be an even MORE spectacular boon to western Africa.
Jews can may Aliyah because they’re able to FINANCE it.
Blacks can’t return because they can’t finance it. Their Federal largesse has them TRAPPED on Barry’s vote plantation.
I contend that what is available to every other ethnic block ought not to be denied the ONE COLLECTIVE that was dragooned onto slave ships, thence to America.
And, if you haven’t figured it out: American weather STINKS if you’ve got the opportunity to live in west Africa, etc. Personally, I can’t stand that much sun. They love it. I love snow conditions; Blacks hate snow conditions. To each his own.
As it stands, your line of thinking has — literally — thousands of inmates festering away in D bloc.
( — converting to Islam, I might add.)
Blert seems to forget that the black culture he describes was something pushed by the black radicals and their idiot white supporters starting in the 60s. For example, the whole ebonics movement actually chained blacks to their few blocks of the hood rather than showing them how competence in English opened the doors of the world to them.
Stanley Kurtz reported on Obama’s Annenburg project for education in Chicago. As part of it Bill Ayers started a school based on African heritage. It was a total failure. Africa is a lot more complex than he imagines and it is a utopian fantasy for some American blacks.
There are of course many roads with signposts to utopian fantasy, and they are all cruel. Blackness is one.
blert:
Well, obviously anyone can emigrate to Africa if he/she would like, as long as the African country will take him/her in. I don’t see a whole lot of traffic that way from America, though. I have no idea where you’re getting these ideas from. Let’s just leave it at that.
Please pass on this note to Holder:
Recently, the Townsville Police Department (Queensland, Australia) ran an e-mail forum with the local community (a question and answer exchange) with the topic being, “Community Policing.” One of the civilian e-mail participants posed the following question:
“I would like to know how it is possible for police officers to continually harass people, and get away with it?”
From the “other side” (the law enforcement side) Sgt. Bennett, obviously a cop with a sense of humour replied:
“First of all, let me tell you this … it’s not easy. In Townsville, we average one cop for every 600 people.
Only about 60% of those cops are on general duty (or what you might refer to as “patrol”) where we do most of our harassing. The rest are in non-harassing departments that do not allow them contact with the day to day innocents.
At any given moment, only one-fifth of the 60% patrollers are on duty, and available for harassing people while the rest are off duty.
So roughly, one cop is responsible for harassing about 5,000 residents. When you toss in the commercial business, and tourist locations that attract people from other areas, sometimes you have a situation where a single cop is responsible for harassing 10,000 or more people a day.
Now, your average ten-hour shift runs 36,000 seconds long. This gives a cop one second to harass a person, and then only three-fourths of a second to eat a pie, and then find a new person to harass.
This is not an easy task. To be honest, most cops are not up to this challenge day in and day out. It is just too tiring.
What we do is utilize some tools to help us narrow down those people which we can realistically harass. The tools available to us are as follow:
PHONE: People will call us up and point out things that cause us to focus on a person for special harassment. “My neighbour is beating his wife” is a code phrase used often. This means we’ll come out and give somebody some special harassment. Another popular one: “There’s a guy breaking into a house.” The harassment team is then put into action.
CARS: We have special cops assigned to harass people who drive. They like to harass the drivers of fast cars, cars with no rego, or no driver’s licenses and the like. It’s lots of fun when you pick them out of traffic for nothing more obvious than running a red light. Sometimes you get to really heap the harassment on when you find they have drugs in the car, they are drunk, or have an outstanding warrant.
RUNNERS: Some people take off running just at the sight of a police officer. Nothing is quite as satisfying as running after them like a cat on the scent of a mouse. When you catch them you can harass them for hours, to determine why they didn’t want to talk to us.
LAWS: When we don’t have PHONES or CARS or RUNNERS, and have nothing better to do, there are actually books that give us ideas for reasons to harass folks. They are called “Laws”; Criminal Codes, Motor Vehicle Laws, etc …They all spell out all sorts of things for which you can really mess with people.
After you read the laws, you can just drive around for awhile until you find someone violating one of these listed offenses and harass them. Just last week I saw a guy trying to steal a car. Well, there’s this book we have that says that’s not allowed. That meant I was allowed to harass this guy. It’s a really cool system that we’ve set up, and it works pretty well.
We seem to have a never-ending supply of folks to harass. And we get away with it. Why? Because for the good Townsville citizens who pay the bill, we try to keep the streets safe for them, and they pay us to “harass” some people.
Hopefully sir, this has clarified to you a little bit better, how we harass the good citizens of Townsville.
I’d love to see Blert’s idea of repatriating all blacks who hate white people back to Africa happen for a few months just to hear the caterwauling from spoiled American blacks about how terrible it is to actually live in Africa. It would probably only take a few days and they would be clamoring for the next flight back to the good old USA. Neo is correct that it is just a pipe dream but it is fun to imagine.
There is no question that African culture is much different than ours but I doubt that American blacks would fit in very well. American black culture is not African culture in any sense but rather it is a degenerated version of leftists utopian musings. In traditional African cultures children are raised in intact families in which dominant men marry submissive women and rule the household.
Michael Jackson went back to Nigeria, thinking he’d have a homecoming peak experience. But the stench of the third world hit him as soon as he got off the plane, and he clapped a handkerchief over his nose and RAN across the tarmac.
The Nigerians were Not Amused.
Apparently the Gloved One was appalled by what he found there. Came home lickety split.
Let’s see now. Menendez, Ferguson Police Department.
Who’s next? Bibi? Hillary? SCOTUS?
No matter. The long knives are coming out.
File under: Dark Knight of the Long Knives.
Anyone in their way, will get knifed and shot.
Great read. Totally agree.
Fergusson as debtor prison!
Geez, I had completely missed that.
Can’t keep up with the complete breakdown of societal consensus no mo’e…. Exhausting.
Societal Consensus has left the room and she’s not coming back … Let it burn!
Here:The Ferguson Kleptocracy
In Ferguson and the Modern Debtor’s Prison wrote:
You don’t get $321 in fines and fees and 3 warrants per household from an about-average crime rate.
You get numbers like this from bullshit arrests for jaywalking and constant “low level harassment involving traffic stops, court appearances, high fines, and the threat of jail for failure to pay.”
The DOJ report on the Ferguson Police Department verifies this in stunning detail:
Ferguson has allowed its focus on revenue generation to fundamentally compromise the role of Ferguson’s municipal court.
The municipal court does not act as a neutral arbiter of the law or a check on unlawful police conduct.
… Our investigation has found overwhelming evidence of minor municipal code violations resulting in multiple arrests, jail time, and payments that exceed the cost of the original ticket many times over.
One woman, discussed above, received two parking tickets for a single violation in 2007 that then totaled $151 plus fees. Over seven years later, she still owed Ferguson $541–after already paying $550 in fines and fees, having multiple arrest warrants issued against her, and being arrested and jailed on several occasions.
Predatory fining was incentivized…
The Parrot speaks for me…
sure looks to me like tha vast majority of “african americans” want to be segregated… with their own police, and businesses and so on… after all, if they have white officers, they complain they are racist… if they have their own area with their own officers and so on, then they say its unequal because they are separate… you can figure out a list in which nothing will work, short of exterminating all white men (Which removes white women too – showing you how smart the women are on this issue), and then they will be in their own country, like in africa, which they dont want to go back to either.
personally… dismantled the police, and they will complain that no one is protecting them… protect them and they complain…
at some point, people get tired of trying to accomodate someone who is never happy, cant be happy, and nothing satisfies..
All of this could have been prevented if 250 years ago we would have picked our own cotton