Nemstov’s murder…
…represents a warning shot:
How could such a prominent politician ”” a founder of the opposition Solidarity Party, a sitting member of the Yaroslavl city parliament ”” be gunned down so brazenly, within steps of the Kremlin? “We didn’t kill members of government,” Gleb Pavlovsky, an independent political consultant who used to work for Putin, told me over the phone. “It’s an absolutely new situation.” Olga Romanova, a prominent opposition activist and a close friend of Nemtsov, said, “There are more cameras in that spot than there are grains in a packet of grain.”…
Yet we can be sure that the investigation will lead precisely nowhere. At most, some sad sap, the supposed trigger-puller, will be hauled in front of a judge, the scapegoat for someone far more powerful. More likely, the case will founder for years amid promises that everyone is working hard, and no one will be brought to justice at all. This has been the pattern for other high-profile killings, like those of the journalist Anna Politkovskaya and the whistle-blower Sergei Magnitsky…
Ilya Yashin, a member of Nemtsov’s Solidarity Party, was of the same mind. “It’s totally obvious for me that it’s a political killing,” he said. “I don’t have the slightest doubt about that.” Maxim Katz, another opposition activist, claimed on Twitter that, any way you slice it, Putin is responsible: “If he ordered it, then he’s guilty as the orderer. And even if he didn’t, then [he is responsible] as the inciter of hatred, hysteria, and anger among the people.”
It’s hard to argue with this last point.
This case is strangely parallel to the Nisman murder in Argentina. The differences are large—Nisman was a prosecutor, Nemstov an opposition polician; the Argentine government alleged that Nisman had committed suicide, whereas Putin isn’t trying that ploy because it’s so obvious Nemstov was murdered. But both governments are trying hard but unconvincingly to pin the deaths on people attempting to harm or frame them.
you left out the Obama murders… and the ones in the UK… and and and…
When power and lawlessness are combined, such people have no difficulty in ordering a ‘permanent’ solution to the truly troublesome.
“Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?”
Artfldgr’s litany of highly suspicious deaths alluded to just this type of thing on another thread. Some may be ordinary coincidence but a truism applies; “Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action”. Ian Fleming’s character ‘Auric Goldfinger’.
and dont forget all the banksters and investment men committing suicide… a lots been going on that this blog has ignored from this informative area…
for 2014 (so its not complete):
1) David Bird, 55, long-time reporter for the Wall Street Journal, working at the Dow Jones newsroom
2) Tim Dickenson, a UK-based communications director at Swiss Re AG
3) Trouser William Smith, 58, former senior manager for Deutsche Bank
4) Ryan Henry Crane, age 37, JP Morgan
5) Li Junjie, 33 Hong Kong JP Morgan
6) Gabriel Magee, 39, age JP Morgan employee
7) Mike Dueker, 50, who had worked for Russell Investments
8) Richard Talley, 57, was the founder and CEO of American Title (real estate titles)
9) James Jr. Stuart 70 Former National Bank of Commerce CEO was found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz
10) Jason Alan Salaise, 34-year-old IT Specialist at JPMorgan since 2008
11) Autumn Radtke, 28, CEO of First Meta, a Singapore-based virtual currency trading platform
12) Eddie Reilly, 47, an investment banker, Vertical Group, New York
13) Kenneth Ballando, 28, an investment banker, Capital Levy, New York
14) Joseph A. Giampapa, 55, corporate bankruptcy lawyer, JP Morgan Chase
15) Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, a former top administrator ANB / AMRO, Laren, Netherlands
16) Juergen Frick, 48, CEO of Bank Frick & Co. AG, Liechtenstein
17) Benoit Philippens, 37, director of BNP Paribas Fortis Bank, Ans, Belgium.
18) … Lydia, 52, banker-Bred Banque Populaire, Paris
19) Andrew Jarzyk, 27, banker, PNC Bank, New York
20) Carlos Six, 61, Head Tax and member CREDAF, Belgium
21) Jan Winkelhuijzen, 75, and Commissioner Fiscalist (former Deloitte), Netherlands.
22) Richard Rockefeller, 66, grandson elite banker John D. Rockefeller, America
23) Mahafarid Amir Khosravi (Amir Mansour Aria), 45, bank owner, businessman and derivatives trader, Iran
24) Lewis Katz, 76, businessman, lawyer and insider in the banking world, America
25) Julian Knott, Director of Global Operations Center JP Morgan, 45, America
26) Richard Gravino, IT Specialist JP Morgan, 49, America
27) Thomas James Schenkman, Managing Director, Global Infrastructure JP Morgan, 42, United States
28) Valtz Nicholas, 39, Managing Director, Goldman Sachs, New York, America
29) Therese Brewer, 50, Managing Director ING Netherlands
30) Tod Robert Edward, 51, vice president of M & T Bank, America
31) Thierry Leyne, 48, an investment banker and owner Anatevka SA, Israel
32) Calogero Gambino, 41, Managing Director, Deutsche Bank, America
33) Shawn D. Miller, 42, Managing Director of Citigroup, New York, America
34) Melissa Millian, 54, senior vice president of MassMutual, America
35) Thieu Leenen, 64, Relationship Manager ABN / AMRO, Eindhoven, Netherlands
36) Geert Tack, 52, Private Banker ING Haaltert, Belgium
but why notice that, and the cut cables (in europe as well as in the US this past week)… and all the other stuff i was trying to bring up AS IT HAPPENED..
basically noticing it now is about 4 years late…
just a list without commentary would be way too long for this blog!!!
an interesting strategy.. do so much that it takes too much space to comment on, and so be ignored for years…
Alexander Khodzinsky journalist in Tulun, was stabbed to death
Kazbek Gekkiev journalist for local TV programmes in Kabardino-Balkaria, was shot dead on street of Nalchik
Akhmednabi Akhmednabiev, deputy editor of the Novoe Delo was killed by several gunshots
human rights activist Timur Kuashev was abducted from his home and later found dead
Gadzhimurat Kamalov, Makhachkala. Investigative reporter – shot 6 times in a drive-by outside his newspaper’s offices
Vladimir Yatsina, a photocorrespondent with ITAR-TASS.
Ludmila Zamana, Samara. Homicide.
Artyom Borovik,
Oleg Polukeyev, Homicide
Boris Gashev, literary critic, . Homicide
Alexander Yefremov
Igor Domnikov, from Novaya Gazeta, Moscow. Struck over the head with a hammer in the stairwell of his Moscow apartment
Sergei Novikov, Radio Vesna, Smolensk. Shot in a contract killing in stairwell of his apartment building
Iskander Khatloni, Radio Free Europ killed at night in an axe attack on the street outside his Moscow apartment block
Sergei Ivanov, Lada-TV, Shot five times in the head and chest in front of his apartment building
Georgy Garibyan
Oleg Goryansky,
Raif Ablyashev,
Sergei Loginov
Pavel Asaulchenko Contract killing.
Adam Tepsurkayev, Reuters was shot at his neighbor’s house
Nikolai Karmanov,
Valery Kondakov
Eduard Burmagin,
Leonid Grigoryev
Andrei Pivovarov,
Oleg Dolgantsev,
Vladimir Kirsanov
Andrei Sheiko
Eduard Markevich Shot in the back
Elina Voronova,
Oleg Vedenin
Alexander Babaikin
Boris Mityurev
Svetlana Makarenko, Homicide.
Konstantin Pogodin
Natalya Skryl
Valery Batuyev, Moscow News
I could easily add tons more, and the above was only during putins time (both), not medvedevs… or even before…
even in the US!!!
These are not the droids your looking for….
The warning shot was fired with the Western-backed coup in Ukraine. After Ukraine, Syria, Libya, Egypt, etc., I would imagine that Russians would be concerned about their wealth, welfare, and lives. Still, this does not establish who aborted the guy.
While there was a motive to commit abortion, it was only actionable if Nemstov was conspiring with foreign agents. There isn’t a sharp political division among Russians as there is, for example, in America.
Congratulations, neo, your blog has hit the big time. It’s apparently worth it to Russian disinformation teams to send in the clowns ( waves in a friendly way to our Russian friend )
Ed 🙂
Recently in comments to Con Coughlin excellent article in “Telegraph” one of the readers asked how it was possible that so well-trained FSB operatives did the assassination so clumsy, leaving so many circumstantial evidence of their involvment: in a place so closely monitored, that nobody will be able to escape from the scene without allowance from security services to do this. That is what I replied:
Of course, they know how eliminate people in non-suspicuous way. But the very goal of such assassination was intimidation, so they do not really bother to conceal their involvement. They only did it in a such way that there were no obvious evidence, but enough to leave strong suspictions. Litvinenko was murdered by polonium poisoning, which impossible NOT to detect, but only after killers were far away in safety and denied any involvement. And this isotop can be produced only in nuclear reactor and never appears on legal market.
That is exactly the way Putin operates. He gives signals intimidating and terrorizing their target auditory, at the same time preserving some appearance of plausible deniability. All thugs use this tactic: “A nice house you have there. It will be a shame if something bad happened to it”.
Sergey wrote:
Litvinenko was murdered by polonium poisoning, which impossible NOT to detect… And this isotop can be produced only in nuclear reactor and never appears on legal market.
Thanks Sergey, I was trying to remember his name and the chemical poison used. This happened in the early 2000s, in London, right? He made trouble for Putin by going public with stories of corruption (and worse?).
At the time, I thought this was a clear “warning shot” by Putin showing what happens to those who get in his way. My reasoning began with the question of why murder someone in such a bizarre way. I was pretty sure polonium could only be obtained by someone with access to a nuclear reactor.
So whoever ordered this had to be at a high level in a country with nuclear power/research. Thus, in effect Putin was announcing that he had ordered this to happen, a message to anyone else who might think of crossing him.
Ed:
Not sure which “Russian friend” you’re referring to, since “Sergey” seems to be implicating the Putin forces, and he’s also been around as a commenter longer than most of the other commenters here, having first arrived in the very early years of the blog.
I fear the fact that people like Putin and Obama are “leaders” in the modern world points to some sort of psychological dysfunction among people that is global in scope.
Its like the psychosis that overtook average Germans in the 1930’s but on a huge and multi nation scale.
SteveH:
Don’t sell the Germans short. They did NOT elect Hitler. See this.
I get that part Neo. I contend the real problems with the average Germans mindset occurred after that fact.
I strongly suspect that “Russian friend” “n.n.” is not a person, but a dedicated team of Kremlin psy-operatives. Many such teams are flooding the net with posts, point by point parroting Russian govermental propaganda. These “commenters” are on the government payroll and conceal their origins by typical English or Irish names and use of proxy servers.
I do not believe that the mass psychosis of Germans under Hitler rule or a very much alike psychosis of Russian people occuring in the last year are true psychoses: they are induced by agressive propaganda. TV is mightier than radio, because visual stimuli is harder to subject to criticism. What took Hitler 3 years, Putin achieved in less than several monthes. It is a societal disfunction, corruption of its institutions of education and mass media. This lead to Obama election: a massive propaganda using some Goebbelsian tricks.
Of course Occam’s Razor says it was Putin, which gives rise to a presumption, a rebuttable presumption, that he was behind it (and in Argentina, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, however circuitously). But what evidence is out there implicating anyone else? Since he controls the police and justice system, how bold will he be?
Although I heartily BELIEVE in Putin’s involvement (via subordinates, allies or friends), I – nonetheless – have difficulty seeing how such a gross assassination benefits him!
Am I alone in seeing this difficulty?
Sergey:
Pray tell, what is the propaganda that I have posted? The events I have cited in other nations is a matter of record. My skepticism of assertions about events and motives in Russia is well placed.
neo-neocon:
Within the available context, that “Russian friend” must be me. I am, after all, the only one who suggests that discretion is the better part of valor. While I am pro-America, I am not anti-Russia, and perhaps that assures a measure of neutrality that mitigates a displacement of feelings.
I understand the source of hostility towards Russia, and Putin in particular as an agent of the defunct Soviet Union. But, it seems that recent events do not support the progressive animosity and even hostility that people exhibit.
Oh, well. Time will tell, or perhaps not. In our own country, we are still debating the definition of “is”. For example, is it a human life? Seemingly reasonable people will disagree with the definition of process and character.
Gary: So whoever ordered this had to be at a high level in a country with nuclear power/research.
not only that, but one that can order civilians to do things that they should not do and expect cooperation… technically if pelosi went to a nuclear plant and said, run off a bit of polonium for me (rather than use the more “historically traditional” thalium or thorium), and dont write it in the records, they would tell her to jump in a lake as our political system lets them.. (for the most part)
Sergey Says: I strongly suspect that “Russian friend” “n.n.” is not a person, but a dedicated team of Kremlin psy-operatives. Many such teams are flooding the net with posts, point by point parroting Russian govermental propaganda.
eventually you get used to seeing them as they make odd statements, use names that are as funny as a person with a heavy accent from india calling themselves Cindy, and so on.
i used to bump into them a lot… at least better quality ones… they used to harry la russophobe before she went underground… ive even been chased from site to site as they track me down and my commentary.
i want to visit latvia for the singing revolution, but fear what can happen to me if i get close as the commenters know who i am (dropping hints)…
i wouldnt be surprised if some of the issues i have in this place where i work are from my comments and seriptitous bs from that… no way to know either way, but it wouldnt surprise me… (not after some showed up at my home once).
heck, even marshal davis “kid” showed up here, but disappeared fast after finding out i was already here. we have tusseled before…
now they leave me alone after realizing that the more they talked with me, the more information i could put ito posts… that is, the more they tried to refute or play games the more opportunity i had to point things out and pull out more facts one can check… so it became clear the way to fight me is not to give me that opportunity… then instead of a long set of back and forth discourse, there is just one post that gets cut down for being to large, or the others complain i made too many etc…
they learned that by leaving me alone the people i was writing for would do a better job cutting things out than they were doing by engaging me.
Sergey Says:
March 2nd, 2015 at 4:20 pm
yes sergey, that much is true… but also, there is the larger desire to not lose what one has… to try to run the obsticals and come out unscarred…
a large amount of them in russia and germany knew they were being played… that they were being pissed on and told it was raining, but they did not want to change their lives and replace their personal goals withthe greater goal and risk of action.
take obama and his tax move… what can a common person do? even more than fearing action destroying their lives and putting things on hold, they fear acting, it amounts to nothing, and they get crushed for the nothing…
this is where i agree its not a psychosis other than acting your part… go along to get along and hope something changes for the better.
most germans did not care one way or another about jews, or whether their 14% controlled 40% of businesses etc… even those who were somewhat antisemetic… after all, its one thing not to like what you have seen african americans do and associate that with others, but a whole other game to say load them into trucks and kill them…
each group on the side of nice just wanted it to stop or to get by it and not lose what little they had and somehow get out of it.
heck… some latvians who fled payed the rent and kept their keys assuming that after the crap passed they could return to their pre paid apartments, open the door, dust up and return to their lives.
refugee lives are much different than the lives of immigrants… immigrants make a choice to leave home and find a new home… refugees accept a new home with the hope of going back… they even give their own kids this hope, kids who want to return to a myth that often never was, and a yearning they can never satisfy..
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G Joubert Says: March 2nd, 2015 at 9:38 pm / Since he controls the police and justice system, how bold will he be?
far bolder than you would ever imagine…
because in that system, they can change what they are in a moment and have showed they could care less about the people… if you havent noticed most of the liberal arguments agianst usch bold moves relies on the false moral of the people, that they are in some way important and not disposable. they refuse to face the insignificance they take on in such a system!!!