Now, it’s Denmark’s turn (and a look back at the Rushdie fatwa)
[UPDATE 9 PM: The shooter has been identified as Omar Abdel Hamid El-Hussein.]
Danish authorities haven’t been quick to give out the details of yesterday’s dual attack in Copenhagan, but so far it appears that it is mirroring the recent Paris terrorism but with a smaller death total—two dead, plus several police and/or guards wounded—and a single perpetrator. As in Paris, it featured a free speech target that had published cartoons of Mohammed, as well as a Jewish target, and a killer who had been previously known to authorities.
For what was he known? The information released is rather general, but you probably wouldn’t lose a lot of money if you guessed it might have some connection with Islamic extremist terrorist activity, although it’s also possible that he’s a criminal recently recruited to the cause of terrorism:
The suspect was born in Denmark and had a criminal record, including violence and weapons offenses, Copenhagen police said in a statement. They didn’t release his name.
Nor his religious affiliation. But again, signs point quite strongly to jihadi terrorism as the motive, whatever his official religion may have been. The venue of the first attack was a panel discussion on art and free speech. The featured panel member (believed to be the primary target) was Lars Vilks, “a Swedish artist who had caricatured the Prophet Muhammad.” He was not hurt. Instead, the killer—who “used an automatic weapon to shoot through the windows of the Krudttoenden cultural center where the talk was being held”—murdered a documentary filmmaker, Finn Noergaard, who had made innocuous-seeming “documentaries for Danish television, including the 2004 ‘Boomerang boy’ about an Australian boy’s dreams to become a world boomerang champion and the 2008 ‘Le Le’ about Vietnamese immigrants in Denmark.” Vilks, who has been under police protection since the Mohammed cartoon controversy erupted in 2007, was taken away safely yesterday by his guards.
If the gunman’s first venue was somewhat analogous to the Charlie Hebdo killings, his second venue was analogous to the kosher grocery: a synagogue. However, unlike the grocery, the synagogue (like the conference) was under guard. The Jewish man killed at the synagogue was identified as:
…Dan Uzan, 37, a longtime security guard for the 7,000-strong community. He was guarding a building behind the synagogue during a bat mitzvah when he was shot in the head. Two police officers who were there were slightly wounded.
The first shooting occurred at around 4 PM on Saturday, the second at close to 1 AM the next morning, and four hours later the gunman was killed by police when he “returned to an address that they were keeping under surveillance.” We don’t yet know how they identified him.
One interesting detail that did emerge is connected with the firepower involved in the attacks:
[Vilks] said it seemed to him that police were surprised by the firepower wielded by the gunman.
“The gunman, he had an advantage because his strong rifle could easily penetrate these glass doors while the policemen’s handguns didn’t work so well,” Vilks said.
The attacker made it just inside the building but apparently got no farther, said Helle Merete Brix, a journalist and founder of the Lars Vilks Committee. The group supports the cartoonist, whose portrayals of the Prophet Mohammed angered many in the Muslim world.
Bodyguards returned fire, Copenhagen police said, but the gunman managed to flee.
Apparently the sheer number of police and bodyguards as compared to the attacker, rather than the superiority of their weaponry, may have been the factor that hampered his ability to kill more people. It is virtually certain he would have liked to have done so.
Despite the relative paucity of information, it seems crystal clear what’s going on here: an assault on the West’s freedom of speech, perpetrated by a fundamentalist Muslim terrorist (or one hired by or in sympathy with fundamentalist Muslim terrorists) acting to silence what they see as blasphemy against Islam, as well as to exert a chilling effect on anyone who would sympathize with or support such freedom of speech. In addition, it is an attack on Jews and those who would protect them. The goal? Non-Muslims would not be free to criticize Islam in ways that the group deems blasphemous, whereas Jews would not even be free to practice Judaism. The penalty for both? Death.
The moment when the West should have become aware of what was building was the 1989 fatwa against author Salman Rushdie. To refresh your memory:
Many Muslims accused Rushdie of blasphemy or unbelief [for his novel The Satanic Verses] and in 1989 Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran issued a fatwa ordering Muslims to kill Rushdie. Numerous killings, attempted killings, and bombings resulted from Muslim anger over the novel.
The Iranian government backed the fatwa against Rushdie until 1998, when the succeeding government of Iranian President Mohammad Khatami said it no longer supported the killing of Rushdie. However, the fatwa remains in place.
The issue was said to have divided “Muslim from Westerners along the fault line of culture,” and to have pitted a core Western value of freedom of expression””that no one “should be killed, or face a serious threat of being killed, for what they say or write”””against the view of many Muslims””that no one should be free to “insult and malign Muslims” by disparaging the “honour of the Prophet” Muhammad. English writer Hanif Kureishi called the fatwa “one of the most significant events in postwar literary history.”
Not just literary history, either.
Several things about the Rushdie fatwa were (and still are) of note: it was not issued by rogue terrorists, it was issued by the religious and de facto head of Iran and backed by its government. The date was actually February 14, 1989 (same date as the Copenhagan killings at the free speech conference; it’s possible the date was chosen by the Copenhagen killer as a sort of tribute, or perhaps it’s just a coincidence). And it was very extreme, even by the traditional standards of Islam on such matters [emphasis mine]:
In early 1989, Khomeini issued a fatwÄ calling for the assassination of Salman Rushdie, an India-born British author. Rushdie’s book, The Satanic Verses, published in 1988, was alleged to commit blasphemy against Islam and Khomeini’s juristic ruling (fatwÄ) prescribed Rushdie’s assassination by any Muslim. The fatwÄ required not only Rushdie’s execution, but also the execution of “all those involved in the publication” of the book….
The fatwÄ has also been attacked for violating the rules of fiqh by not allowing the accused an opportunity to defend himself, and because “even the most rigorous and extreme of the classical jurist only require a Muslim to kill anyone who insults the Prophet in his hearing and in his presence.”
Though Rushdie publicly regretted “the distress that publication has occasioned to sincere followers of Islam”, the fatwa was not revoked. Khomeini explained,
“Even if Salman Rushdie repents and becomes the most pious man of all time, it is incumbent on every Muslim to employ everything he has got, his life and wealth, to send him to Hell.”
Rushdie himself was not killed but Hitoshi Igarashi, the Japanese translator of the book The Satanic Verses, was murdered and two other translators of the book survived murder attempts.
The British reaction to the fatwa was to break off diplomatic relations with Iran. There was widespread outrage in the West against the fatwa, but many in the Muslim world appeared to favor it, even those who already lived in the West:
In Britain, the Union of Islamic Students’ Associations in Europe issued a statement offering its services to Khomeini. Despite incitement to murder being illegal in the United Kingdom, one London property developer told reporters, “If I see him, I will kill him straight away. Take my name and address. One day I will kill him”.
Other leaders, while supporting the fatwa, claimed that British Muslims were not allowed to carry out the fatwa themselves. Prominent amongst these were the Muslim Parliament and its leader Kalim Siddiqui, and after his death in 1996, his successor, Ghayasuddin Siddiqui. His support for the fatwa continued, even after the Iranian leadership said it would not pursue the fatwa, and re-iterated his support in 2000.
And leading scholars seemed to think it was well within the traditions of Islam:
Meanwhile in America, the director of the Near East Studies Center at UCLA, George Sabbagh, told an interviewer that Khomeini was “completely within his rights” to call for Rushdie’s death.
It’s not at all difficult to see the roots of now in what happened then. It’s not that Westerners weren’t already alarmed back then, though; they were. They just didn’t see the depth and breadth of what this phenomenon represented, and they didn’t quite know what to do. Nor do they now. And although political correctness was much weaker back then it already very much existed, and probably helped to hamper recognition of the dangers of this strain of Islam to the West itself. Those dangers are still not fully recognized by the governments of the West, in part for the very same reason.
… Those dangers are still not fully recognized by the governments of the West, in part for the very same reason.
An insect infestation, soulless, relentless, geometrical and, clever.
They just released a very well produced video of the simultaneous execution of 21 male Libyan copts.
“Those dangers are still not fully recognized by the governments of the West, in part for the very same reason”. A reason to post the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUYpZSvm5g&feature=player_embedded
Whichever your God, pray for them. It’s come to that.
I am the first male in five generation to, mercifully, have not seen formal combat.
Soon …
Poor security. They should at least have rifle calibers, and a sidearm only as backup. People want to believe that the simple presence is enough, it just isn’t. I have to wonder how many people are going to have to be slaughtered before they take the threat seriously enough for well armed guards? Then again, I think they are avoiding that, because in the end, it escalates. And the only way they can win is to boot muslims out. Especially since you can never tell which one will just go rogue, or allow/help/support others who do.
I am having difficult having sympathy for people who don’t seem to be taking the threat seriously enough to actually properly arm their security. Though that won’t do much good with a big enough carbomb. Still, it would have helped in these instances.
Salman Rushdie?
What Lunatic Khomeini’s fatwa done just make that man more popular and more famous?
The stupidity of that lunatic Mullah was in fact beyond his believe and his claims of his fatwa.
To read about Salman Rushdie more there were article very detailed about him worth reading, let not forgot that Lunatic Khomeini’s who was the mullah he initiated the blowing buddies in Lebanon and Israel during his time in power, before there were nothing like that using human buddies as bombs just when he came to power.
Among the Blasphemers: On Salman Rushdie
http://www.thenation.com/article/172238/among-blasphemers-salman-rushdie#
“… political correctness … probably helped to hamper recognition of the dangers of this strain of Islam to the West …”
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By “this strain of Islam” I presume you mean the version of Islam that regards the Koran as being “the literal, perfect, eternal and immutable words of Allah” and accepts that Mohammed was the “Perfect Man, worthy of emulation by all”.
(In case any reader doesn’t get it, yes, EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM must profess to believe just exactly that. If they don’t, they aren’t “submitting” to the Perfect Will of Allah, which is the whole point of Islam. Submit or die.)
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All the references to the shooter’s weapon refer to it as automatic, but the sounds of the shots on the video suggest to me it was being fired rapidly in semi automatic mode. It was clearly high capacity. The question is how does a young man get a hold of such a weapon in a country with strict gun laws? Who taught him how to shoot? Someone has to have helped him.
Crime in infidel lands is seen as part of jihad by Muslims. They’re raiding, taking our possessions, as ordered by Mohammed. Same as they interpret living on the dole as their allah-ordained tax on the infidel.
From the essay Religious Terrorism vs Free Speech, published as a full page ad in the NYT in 1989 in response to Iran’s fatwa on Rushdie:
Neither September 11th nor any other Islamist attack since had to happen if the enemy was treated in a manner he has brought on himself. The longer we delay defending ourselves, the costlier it will be.
They don’t value civil liberties and freedom at all. Just the opposite in fact. They value the raw brute force authoritarian power to shut down such freedoms. We weren’t ever going to be able to bring freedom and democracy to the Middle East. They don’t want it.
G.W. Bush’s oft repeated great lie that Islam is the “Religion of peace” combined with the rest of PC from the Left, the abandonment of Christianity in the West and our lack of historical knowledge is setting the West up for failure. There is a great lie out there that that tries to imply the conflict between Islam and the West started with the Crusades. You have to ignore or not know hundreds of years of history to think that….which is very common. When we hear that the Crusades started it, we need to point out that the Muslims invaded and conquered most of what is now Spain almost 400 years BEFORE the first crusade.
Past Muslim attempts to invade Europe–seen for what they were–were repelled on four different occasions in the past by the forces of what used to be Christendom.
Christendom now largely faded away, today’s secular European leaders have eagerly and very deliberately embraced and welcomed within their Gates the Trojan Horse of multiculturalism and massive Muslim immigration.
Their leaders have very deliberately brought this disaster down upon the inhabitants of Europe, and still resist the harsh measures against Islam and Muslims that might have some chance of rolling back this latest Muslim invasion and colonization.
the police had weapons picked for and paid for by politicians who dont shoot and believe ad copy… the way programmers dont get to pick the language that they use on a project, but end up working on a majority of them that die because managers (like poltiicans) pick those things.
a case of, we are paying, so we pick… you use it… good luck
the body guards on the other hand, they wont have the same kind of weapons, they get to pick what they think is best. and i will bet you that they have glocks, bullpups, potentially mac10s, uzi’s etc
though the denmark police carry an effective weapon
The standard service handgun is the H&K USP Compact 9mm pistol. 9mm being the lowest caliber i would suggest for such work… (22 bounces around too much, etc). the guns DO have barrels in the 40 and .357 size, but police dont carry that.
bodyguards may carry things like Glock G19, Sig p226 or Sig p229… these are also small and easy to conceal making them good for backup or for security.
its also a matter of size… large men like myself, and larger, can carry a larger gun and not have it show as easy as a small man or woman carrying the same thing.
with a sholder sling holster, like the secret service has, you can wander around with a mini machine gun, like the mac 10. the mac is only a bit larger than a hand gun, but is fully automatic with .45 ammo… .45 some say being better for stopping power. with the 9mm putting out 304 lb/ft vs the .45 369 lb/ft
the terrorists if using AK47 type rounds would be 7.62é—39mm
all of these can shoot glass and break it… they all can cause nasty damage… none of them can penetrate body armor with any ease…
its just that a body guard with a mac 10 shooting 1090 rounds per minute will out do a 9mm compact handgun with a lot less rounds
its all moot in that the news isnt reporting facts, but excuses..
it wasnt the lack or prepardness, training, etc… it was the 9mm rounds… they werent powerful enough… but other than going to .45.. what round would they use? magnum .357?
i know… lets get them all .500 S&W Magnum’s.. those replaced .44 magnums as the most powerful handgun… though its a revolver… however the bullets are 50 cal…
ultimately, its similar to the riots of feminists in south america, with the men linking arms to protect the church.. its pc not to attack them… or the rapes of the youg girls by pakistanis for 10 years in england… its not pc to accuse minorities… or to mention the riots of “teens”, like the one in florida that was over 100 of them being black… its not pc to single out the only race rioting and murdering people of other colors who are protected.
see the pattern? its not the 9mm guns, an excuse that a person who doesnt know guns might nod to like global warming gets a nod of knowing ignorance… its the pc correct feminist socialist progressive liberal thought control games…
ultimate;u the scariest weapon is the human mind
such politics turn it off, making guns, missiles, fists and things controled by it, impotent for lacking a mind to direct it!!!!!
My daughter read (in the UK Daily Mail) that at least 200 shots were fired at the conference center … and yet only one killed and a handful injured?
200 shots … I suppose the goblin responsible had been ‘trained’ insofar as being shown how to fire his weapon, but otherwise his marksmanship appears to be of the ‘spray and pray’ variety. Even if those guards had only pistols … if the shooter had really been trained, he should have been able to do a lot more damage than he did.
It will take tens of thousands of cold dead bodies on the streets of Europe and America before the west even begins to recognize this is a war of civilization against islam.
Not so long ago the peerless intellectuals of the West accepted the victory of the Cold War and the union of Europe with a kind of resentful churlishness; a legacy from the imbecile Ronald Reagan who came into a strategic fortune through sheer good luck. He did not deserve it. They even rewrote history to make it appear that the European project really won the peace. But now they know the truth. They won nothing and threw away everything:
http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/02/15/rotten-in-denmark/#ixzz3RrKTRF1l
An insect infestation, soulless, relentless, geometrical and, clever.
Let’s see how the Danes react. The King of Denmark put on a yellow star and defied Hitler as best he could regarding the deportation of the Danish Jews. That was extremely brave for a tiny peaceful country.
“Who taught him how to shoot?”
Well, if they follow the practices of the US military, he was allowed to join and sent through training.
How did that work out at Ft Hood?
I remember that Germaine Greer and John le Carré, among some other notable Western writers, refused to support Rushdie at the time the fatwa was issued. Wonder what they’re saying today about the latest happenings?
Danes wearing the skull cap through a moooslime area:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v13qbt4UBDg
Insects:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvTw0UP0Ff8
Another random work place violence incident near a synagogue in Denmark perpetrated by the folks. And the beat goes on.
There is really no basis for optimism with respect to the future of European society; and very little for the United States.
I can think of no politician of consequence who is standing firm for the preservation of their traditional societal values. At the most, we hear a few bleats when one of these atrocities occur, then back to business as usual.
Meanwhile, our political elites worry that there will be an anti-Muslim backlash; or whether anti-illegal immigration sentiment will harm their electoral prospects.
Our major Universities are feeding at the trough of Arab oil money, and repaying the debt by peddling Muslim propaganda.
Well, I do believe that the Koran should be required reading in our schools, just as it is written without mitigating interpretation. Our youth should know the basis for the murderous philosophy that is taught in the Madrassa,
Because the Koran is antithetical to American values and law; I believe that any prospective immigrant should be required to publicly reject it as a political document, and swear allegiance to our law. I also believe that anyone in residence who seeks a governmental position–including teaching in a public school or University– should be required to do so as well. Without doing so, they are not honestly swearing to support the constitution of the United States and live by the Koran. It occurs to me that perhaps they should be treated in the same manner as the U.S. government treats so-called “white supremacists”.
Now that the Copenhagen shooter is dead he has been identified; and, no surprise, he is of the Muslim faith.
Just now: 21 Coptic Christians beheaded in the latest moslem snuff film:
http://news.yahoo.com/video-purports-show-militants-beheading-hostages-202510516.html
From today’s headlines at Drudge.
What is it going to take before people wake up?
Are you kidding?
This is what the left wants.
These are the allies of the left.
Leftists in their arrogance honestly believe that they will be able to handle these barbarians, like they imagine soothing an ape with music.
Our very own twice elected closet leftist president refuses to acknowledge, at least publicly, even the existence of jihad. It’s all random workplace violence.
Meanwhile the first sharia court is allowed to begin operating in Texas.
The American military is being gutted from without and within and is at its smallest and weakest in 74 years. It’s achievements are being reversed (i.e. Iraq) and it’s officer ranks being purged in the name of political correctness.
Meanwhile Europe’s socialist leadership embraced multiculturalism as a tool to break the center/right.
From an article here,
And people are asking what is it going to take to wake up?
We are being sold out by our own political and so called intellectual classes. They control the media and academia. They control the governments.
Before we can effectively fight to win against the forces of barbarism abroad, we will need to fight and win against the forces of barbarism at home.
A fight which at this point in time, we appear to be loosing.
This is riveting reading — the fearless Oriana Fallaci’s 1979 interview with the evil Ayatollah Khomeini.
““Tehran, September 1979 : His portrait is everywhere, as once the portrait of the Shah was. Pursues you in the streets, in shops, hotels, offices, parades, television, the bazaar … No alcoholic beverages, to begin … No music that excites or soften, to continue … It is forbidden to swim, as swimming more or less need to undress. And so the pools are empty, like empty beaches where couples must be separated and women can bathe only dressed from head to toe.
“If you’re a woman it is a sin to show your neck and hair … Even shaking hands is wrong, between persons of different sexes . “Allah does not want” exclaimed a young officer of the government’s gesture when I greet him that way … The s-e-x-u-a-l freedom, needless to say, is crime and the criminals are punished with the firing squad. Not a day goes by that the press gives the news some adulterous shot …
“Those who oppose or criticize or curse is considered an enemy of the Revolution and Islam, a traitor, a spy for the Americans, a Zionist provocateur, an agent of SAVAK, and has only two choices: surrender or flee the country …. . .”
https://iransnews.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/oriana-fallacis-interview-with-khomeini-1/
Tim P:
And remember that the leftists were their allies back in the revolution of 1979, and the left thought exactly the same thing back then—that they could use the Muslim extremists for their own purposes. But at least in Iran, the ayatollahs get the last laugh on the leftists.
The left thinks the Muslim terrorists are their useful idiots, and the Muslim terrorists think the leftists are their useful idiots.
I think deep down inside the left really admires the brutality of the terrorists in smiting their opponents.
G Joubert,
I think that brutality is exactly why the French intellectual Michel Foucault was so turned on by the Ayatollah. Wonder how much of an influence he, Foucault, still has on Western leftist thought?
I think it resonates with their inner Stalin.
Unfortunately, it will take a Mount Everest of dead infidels before the west is willing to wage all out war with unconditional surrender against the barbarian horde. End game is nuke mecca. Be proud and show them what the great satan can rain down from above.
G Joubert:
See this.
neo informs us “[UPDATE 9 PM: The shooter has been identified as Omar Abdel Hamid El-Hussein.]”
No relation to our very own President Hussein, I suppose, except in his contempt for our culture and our values.
probably should have killed every mullah who issued or endorsed that fatwa
What the western gormnt do just look who did the crimes and endorse it shuold be take all his familiy send them back from where they came, having said that we saw mother father uncels cliame they dont know how thier son or duaghter done that this redoclise clams it can b blived thse very restrict beliver distance thrmself for the teaching of thier kids by brain wash them.
Othe bit is those F* Imam in the west these cromals use to go to mosqe and pray bhinde th these are the dangrouse and sick guys who are pathatic liers they hid themslve from the actions of thier followers in fact they are prepaird them fo this final show and they rush to media distancing them self from the action as if they have nothing to do with thier teaching which he paid and lived on kufar ” infadel” mony and grants they use to recive as community groupstop funding these croks.
A heads-up for the commentariat:
1) The TEN Danish cartoons were AUGMENTED by TWO additional video clips/ stills.
A) The first was a ‘Boys-In-The-Hall skit circa 1990 — later released on DVD.
It’s an extremely funny skit that aired just ahead of Holloween. (1990 IIRC) The skit had multiple tropes built into it: a first (gay) date, on Holloween, with the love interest imagining Dracula (threat image) and date rape, etc. The final shot portrays the love interest passed out in fear — being humped by his own dog as his ‘date’ opens the door to the horror!
B) The second still is from a XXX film that was produced early in 2002 by a studio in New Jersey.
The scenario is that an “Arab” lass faces ‘interrogation by swarthy ‘Crusaders’ WRT jihadi atrocities.
It quickly devolves into a gang-bang… with Point of View shots and a shaky camera. (deliberate, of course)
This particular XXX video has done double duty: it is the MOST circulated XXX DVD in Pakistan — by a wide, wide margin.
It trades on a mythic reputation: That it represents ‘leaked’ interrogation footage) [Abu Graib style] from a CIA ‘dark’ holding cell. The story continues that the gal is the very same PhD chemist now confined to Federal maximum security prison for bio-warfare jihad.
THIS is the reason why there have been ENDLESS jihadi demands to have this bio-terrorist freed from prison! The idiots thing that the XXX hottie is and was a PhD chemist! The actual perp is a ‘dog.’ (burka worthy)
The TEN cartoons PLUS the TWO extras have been circulated WIDELY for all these years in jihadi circles.
In the West the MSM refuses to acknowledge that TWO additional clips have been co-packaged by the opposition propaganda mills.
The above reality is widely known in the relevant circles. (CIA, DoD, Pakistani ISI, et. al.)
It just never breaks through because the TWO extra stills are NOT suitable for our mass media. (WAY too lewd.)
Indeed, no MSM outlet has ever even mentioned them.
The above tid bit comes by way of the press in India and Pakistan. Those writing them up didn’t even know their provenance!
They simply noted that TEN cartoons had morphed into TWELVE pictures.
IIRC, the distribution is credited to the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt. It figures. They are bi-lingual in English — and have always been big players in the agit-prop game.
Beverly, you have Mr. Friedman, had dinner with the grandson of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of Iran’s Islamic revolution.
Dinner With the Sayyids
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/10/opinion/10FRIE.html
Feeding the crocodile hoping it will eat you last, may work for a time.
Cheeky:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/02/flowers-placed-at-site-where-danish-terrorist-was-shot-by-police-video/
We are running out of cheeks to turn … soon
“Danish authorities haven’t been quick to give out the details of yesterday’s dual attack in Copenhagan…”
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No need to. The barbarians are spreading the pain everywhere; America, Australia, France, Spain, Denmark, Russia, Philippines, Israel, Africa, etc.carnage gets broader attentions and helps their
It’s not exactly like Obama’s, “wealth distribution” policies, however, spreading the cause.
The new reality. Nothing makes sense anymore.
in the area of creating similar conditions that favor criminals and terrorists…
the sun king has proclaimed…
In a move clearly intended by the Obama Administration to suppress the acquisition, ownership and use of AR-15s and other .223 caliber general purpose rifles, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives unexpectedly announced [Friday, info dump day] that it intends to ban commonplace M855 ball ammunition as “armor piercing ammunition.” The decision continues Obama’s use of his executive authority to impose gun control restrictions and bypass Congress.
this is one of the most common rifles in use in the USA… along with the others that use this… he might have overstepped this in that there will be a lot of men and women who will now start voting out democrats unless they are registered as repubicans… so see a switch over to dems running as repubs.
note that the reason to want this, besides the obvious later. is that blacks desribed as teens, keep attacking people en-mass and over time, it will result in someone protecting their property or selves and ending up shooting half a dozen attackers.
SDN Says: How did that work out at Ft Hood?
modern military actually runs a lot like soviet miliary now. ie. they radio for permission to shoot… something that is alien to WWI, korea vets… (not so much vietnam)… ie. the war is fought by human robots controlled by people who do not know tactics, strategy, dont care about them, and have hidden agendas other than winning.
however, what made ft hood most possible is that they are not allowed to carry their firearms. all the training in the world means nothing if your firearm is unloaded and in a locker… even harder when its unloaded and sitting an an armory and you cant get it.
its not like the past where they got to walk aroud with their sidearms… so once hassan got in with the fire arm, there was nothing the trained people could do but run away and hope MPs showed up fast enough. in the old days, he would have started and a number of officers if not others would have put a .45 acp round in his head.
but for safety sake, people trained to use firearms and trusted with firing military munitions like anti aircraft guns, tanks (hood is a tank base), are not allowed to carry sidearms, or loaded rifles.
the politicos point is… if the military doesnt allow their trained people to carry thigns why should we allow the public?
and the public should carry for the same reason the military should when you never know what wacko or jihadi will enter and do something.
to read the newtown report is to read a farce..
ie. they want locks on the doors so that you can lock them from the inside… more often than not, your going to get kids trapped in class and wont open the door than you will stop an attacker who can shoot the lock or the door itself near the lock to enter.
the hole in the founders design of our state is the need for someone bringing cases to the supremes be harmed by the issue. this is a hole in that the state may declare no one harmed and so no one has standing, and so no case they dont want can get on the docket. the family of the man killed in bengazi cant claim that the election of a invalid president by birth records and other points uninvestigated, is not harmed by such. the men who die at his orders vs someone else, dont have standing of harm. so in essence, he can behave like a dictator, and make up laws invalidating congress and there is nothing the public can do as it cant prove harm if the persons determining if there is harm are the same persons targeted by the public… ie. no matter what they do or what the outome is, the idea that they cause harm is negated by their narcisistic believe in that everything they do is for the good of the collective masses… how can anything then they do be harm?
Rushdie is an ass.. i have met him several times, chatted, and every time he was an ass of large proportions… if they got him, there would not be a great loss except for those people who worship pretentious penis heads… i doubt he was better before the fatwa…
i was thinking of doing the draw Mohammed contest 9in texas).
yeah, they got the dutch, they got hebdo, and van gogh…
but given i am waiting to die and have nothing i can do about it, its a kind of moot issue, and i may be able to earn something for my family.. not like i would be the first man to make a familial sacrifice, nor the last… but a nobody with no future, nor ability to do anything about it, is not much of a sacrifice.
besides, i may be able to then sell my art and be noticed for it.
certainly have no traction otherwise..no help.. the programs are against poor people of pale pigmentation… ovens are more merciful than just letting them gasp like fish on the doc slowly passing…
Artfldgr Says:
February 16th, 2015 at 11:05 am
i was thinking of doing the draw Mohammed contest 9in texas).
yeah, they got the dutch, they got hebdo, and van gogh…
but given i am waiting to die and have nothing i can do about it: here, Pam’s on the job
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/02/11/10000-muhammad-art-and-cartoon-contest-to-be-held-at-site-of-stand-with-the-prophet-conference-in-texas/
21 Coptic Christians beheaded in the latest moslem snuff film
cmon… no one careas bout coptics… in the islamic countires they are relegated to collecting garbage and plastic to live by, and living in it. been like that for longer than i been alive.. no one cares… heck, what happened to the Darfur protests? they stopped when the people protesting found out it was christians being saved..
heck… didnt you see the feminists spitting on men protecting the churches? who cared there?
1500 men lock arms and protect places of worship against 7000 radical feminists burning bibles in Argentina. The feminists were attacking the men and desecrating the churches with graffiti. Some of the graffiti states in Spanish that “Jesus is Gay”. The video was taken down from youtube and various websites due to the sexual content of the unclothed femen doing raunchy things to antagonize the men who was protecting the church.
explains a lot as to why women were not in politics all this time
look at what they do and think is important, and what they do to their own people… though i can see the future.. eventually they will change the state, and then the people they are up against wont care about image, or such… then they will be shot, and wonder why their men, they spit on, tortured, and all that stayed home and didnt bother…
right now a whole large segment of men in america think this way.. defend what? the right for such people to attack and not be put upon? the right of them to take jobs and spit on the losers? the right to attack a police memorial and no one do a thing?
why defend that? let them do it themselves…
Tim P Says: Leftists in their arrogance honestly believe that they will be able to handle these barbarians.
no problem… what a totalitarian state can do is a lot different than what a republic can do…
stalin murdered innocent people to create the image of doing someting and taking care of a problem that was not real… once they have power, these people are EASY to take care of.. you just go through and murder them all… men, women, children, innocents, non innocents… when nothing remains standing, the problem is fixed..
but the same is not a possibility with free peoples who respect people who dont respect them… if feminsts can spit on men in their own state for disagreing with them and those men dont fight, well… you can sure bet that they wont do a damn thing about terrorists.
though i think the interesting thing will come when they start drafting women… the women will say wtf… and the politicos said, this is the liberation and equality you been fighting for… the right to be disposable like the men, not important like women have been for centuries believing otherwise…
in that case the opposition only has to maintain conflict till the population drops and there is no one to repalce who dies… think of the end of WWII with germany… if only they had babies before during wwi… they would then have more bodies to fight with… they tried… but there was not enough time for them to grow up… if US women die in combat, what happens to our poplation and demographics…
want to get rid of the illegal immigrants… let them know that accepting citizenship and social security means they can be drafted to fight… they may not be so keen to come to the US and end up in a fight… after all, in southamerica they are generally safe from ending up in such things…
Tim P Says: The American military is being gutted from without and within and is at its smallest and weakest in 74 years.
dont bother.. been trying to bring up that subject for discussion, and until a war starts and we are lsoing because of it, it wont be something neo will discuss… she wont discuss the new weapons of the enemies, the new agressiveness, the change to their conflict papers for first strike being ok, their spying off the coast of florida, their infiltration to the political areas, their theft of bank money, their stealing technology, the deneument of our military, the removal of experience from command, and more..
its not worth mentioning or talking abut here despite there being tons more too… (the cutting of the undwater cables, the missile launch off the coast of california we supposedly mistaken for plane contrails (which we had never done before nor have done after either), the dictatorship of obama applied to miliarty, the disarming of soldiers making them vulnerable, and on and on)
not worth the time is the message given by consistently ignoring it while its happening, and waiting till its so far gone, talking wont help anything.
Artfldgr , it’s happened before ….
“Delight in smooth-sound platitudes, refusal to face unpleasant facts, desire for popularity and electoral success irrespective of the vital interests of the State, genuine love of peace and pathetic belief that love can be its sole foundation, obviously lack of intellectual vigour…strong and violent pacifism…played a definite part in the unleashing on the world of horrors and miseries…” Winston
I’m off to the gym. Got to keep fit for … soon.
“The greatest upheavals in history would have been unthinkable had it not been for the driving force of fanatical and hysterical passions. Nothing could have been effected by the bourgeois virtues of peace and order.” Winston
Neo,
You said, “And remember that the leftists were their allies back in the revolution of 1979, and the left thought exactly the same thing back then–”
Couldn’t agree more. History repeats itself.
By the way, it was your recommendation on this site at the time which caused me to pick up reading Lolita In Tehran.
It seems every day brings a new and even more horrific headline in the news.
The facts contradict the official narrative consistently. Yet our so called leaders refuse to even acknowledge the reality of the jihad against the west.
Europe is done. Nascent movements in Germany and Britain (UKIP) are denounced as Nativist, racist, bumpkins and thugs. The old brown shirt stereotype is trotted out. Yet the islamic brown shirts are referred to as youths. Like the Paris fires set by youths. Or youths comiting acts of vandalism, like desecrating Jewish cemeteries.
As alluded to in earlier comments. The left, i.e. socialists admire the islamic brown shirts, or should I say admire their methods. Why, because their ideology (socialism) has lost in argument and in fact.
The left cannot and will not face up to that because to admit that means admitting everything you have believed in is wrong. And this is more than simple political ideology to them, it is their religion. The islamic brown shirts are doing the same thing the nazis in Germany and the Bolsheviks in Russia did. They are trying to silence free speech, for others anyway. The left’s only remaining tool, other than lies, is fear. Any persuasion they had has long since been exposed for the fraudulent tripe it really is.
Once free speech is destroyed, the biggest step towards isolating your enemy has been achieved and they can then be destroyed in detail. Free speech, via self-censorship out of fear, coupled with political correctness will effectively stifle any free speech.
Our so called leaders have already sold out, the apparatchiks in the media and the bureaucracy go along. The post WWII status-quo is breaking down. Much as Europe’s old order did in 1914.
America, could lead, a new order could have been built, but our political class, in their decadence and cowardice have elected to ride the sinking ship down, with first class accommodations of course.
We forget that freedom is not the default historical condition. Tyranny is. Our so-called political and wealthy class have opted to cement their gains for themselves and their posterity by sacrificing freedom for the citizenry. Even the concept of citizenry is being rendered meaningless by the immigration policy of these trans-national socialists. But it’s all for the people, so it’s alright.
Yet in a nod to the power of the mass-media, most of the public is more concerned about sports, or scandal among so called celebrities rather than our impending financial, social, and political collapse.
I fear the republicans are not much better than their democrat brethren. If they really cared about our future, they would break up this monopoly first.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for that.
I wonder why there has been no retaliation against Poland
Considering the battle of Vienna at the behest of the Pope
Was conducted by Jan Sobieski on Sept 11, don t know the
Year.
Artfldgr:
Again, you are wrong. The purposeful weakening of the military has of course been discussed here. I don’t write about it a great deal because I’ve written about it before and there is no regular here who doesn’t understand it’s happening and is against it. I don’t need to report on every detail of it; the military drawdown is not my focus or my field of expertise, but it is of course a concern among very many concerns here.
Why on earth would you get the idea that anyone here disagrees that it’s happening, or is deaf to it, or discourages discussion of it?
Here are just two pieces I’ve written about it: this and this.
Molly,
1683, I believe. And I think there has been dispute whether the victory happened on 9/11 or 9/12.
Relating to Sobieski, the breaking of the Siege of Vienna is a fantastic story. For people who think history is boring, a teacher could hardly pick a better subject to get them interested.
A siege by the forces of darkness. A cavalry charge with the sun at their backs, illuminating the wings that the Polish Hussars wore on their armor. A demoralized and shaken army or orcs… I mean, Ottoman Turks, fleeing en masse.
Good stuff. A pivotal moment in the history of Western Civilization.
Where would we be without Sobieski’s charge?
James isnt it one of the Worlds 10 Decisive Battles, it kept
Them in check for a while, sadly Progressives like Obama,
Kerry.Soros& his ilk currently hold sway
Wake up your family, friends & neighbors
People !
Molly,
Yes. It is typically considered one of the Top Ten. Along with the Battle of Tours. Now, what do they both have in common? I wonder…
How much more promising would it be, if in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack, if Christendom rose up and proclaimed, “Je suis Charles Martel!” rather than Charlie Hebdo?
What to do? That is simple: evict ALL muslims from Europe. All ten or more millions. Chechoslovakia was able to oust 3 mln ethnic Germans back then, in 1945, and EU has vastly more resources for the job now.
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Ref G Joubert’s statement 2/15 at 5:37 pm on the mindset of Muslims: ” They don’t value civil liberties and freedom at all. Just the opposite in fact. They value the raw brute force authoritarian power to shut down such freedoms. We weren’t ever going to be able to bring freedom and democracy to the Middle East. They don’t want it.”
= = = = = = = =
When people talk about Islam, they usually emphasize that “Islam literally means submission”. The unspoken yet requisite other half of “submission” is, of course, “dominance”.
You are quite correct, G Joubert; they have no use for freedom, nor for equality, nor for “God-given rights”. The whole purpose of Islam is, in fact, DOMINANCE – over everyone, everything, everywhere, forever.
Looks the 2nd phase of Israeli state starting to developed.
The repert of history with establishment of jewish state you all familiar with the incident that involve mass immigration of the jews from Arab states to Palestine with also waves from east EU.
Now this 2nd call from Israeli PM to jews to come to isreal?
Netanyahu Urges ‘Mass Immigration’ of Jews From Europe
By ISABEL KERSHNERFEB. 15, 2015
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said on Sunday that his government was encouraging a “mass immigration” of Jews from Europe, reopening a contentious debate about Israel’s role at a challenging time for European Jews and a month before Israel’s national elections.
anecdotal information:
http://pamelageller.com/2015/02/wtach-video-muslim-mob-beat-and-stone-a-young-danish-girl-and-her-dog-walking-in-the-park.html/
Anecdotal ya know … probably a slightly unhinged soul …
no Time for Muslim Offence Sympathizers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8f8nWVWZA&spfreload=10
Islam is Bullshit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tN75e5gtw4&spfreload=10
From beyond the grave … The razor of logic.
Infuriatingly logical ….