The canaries in the mine
Natan Sharansky, noted Soviet dissident now living in Israel, has this to say about the recent French terrorist attacks and Europe’s reaction:
“This particular tragedy is a very tragic and powerful reminder for Europe that the time is running out for them””not for European Jews,” he added. “If France and the other Western nations will not fight quickly and strongly for reestablishing the civilization of liberal nations, Europe is in danger. The exodus of Jews, as many times in the past, is the first harbinger, a warning of where it goes.”
France’s Prime Minister Manuel Valls said something similar:
“The choice was made by the French Revolution in 1789 to recognize Jews as full citizens,” Valls told me [Jeffrey Goldberg]. “To understand what the idea of the republic is about, you have to understand the central role played by the emancipation of the Jews. It is a founding principle.”
Valls, a Socialist who is the son of Spanish immigrants [sic: his mother was Swiss and his father Spanish], describes the threat of a Jewish exodus from France this way: “If 100,000 French people of Spanish origin were to leave, I would never say that France is not France anymore. But if 100,000 Jews leave, France will no longer be France. The French Republic will be judged a failure.”
Valls made it a point, early in our meeting, to show me the desk used by one of his predecessors, the Jewish prime minister (and Dreyfusard) Leon Blum. “Jews were sometimes marginalized in France, but this was not Spain or other countries””they were never expelled, and they play a role in the life of France that is central,” he said.
It’s a sad commentary on Europe’s anti-Semitism that Valls’ defense of France’s treatment of its Jews amounts to often hated, never expelled. But that’s just being honest, and Valls has been quite forthright on the threat posed by Muslim terrorism.
[NOTE: Whatever one thinks of the Bible—whether it be the revealed word of God, a metaphor, or wishful thinking—Isaiah 60:12 is interesting in this context (in the following excerpt, “thee” refers to Israel):
For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.
Here’s the passage in its entirety. Quite interesting, indeed.
By the way, when I quote the Bible, I always try to use the King James version. Here’s why.]
The Liberal Church (atheist, libertine, and left-wing) is the problem. Liberalism (i.e. generational) is degenerative. The Church, as it did in the Soviet Union, is designed to secure capital and control for a minority. The terrorists were merely beneficiaries of the Church’s effort to marginalize (i.e. diversity) and neutralize (e.g. abortion) its native competition and resistance.
It’s telling that Hebdo never depicted a juxtaposition of Islamic terrorists and Liberal abortionists carrying out decapitation and dismemberment of unwanted human lives in their corresponding “clinics”. Perhaps the terrorists overt actions will awaken the French to the threat that exists within. Or they may just consume more leftist-provided opiates and feel assured by promises from mortal gods that they will enjoy dissociation of risk.
“This particular tragedy is a very tragic and powerful reminder for Europe that the time is running out for them,” Natan Sharansky
“2030 — That’s When We Take Over” a currently popular T-shirt worn by Muslim youth in Stockholm
That is my perception of the modern biblical translations as well.
n.n.,
Had Charlie Hebdo “depicted a juxtaposition of Islamic terrorists and Liberal abortionists carrying out decapitation and dismemberment of unwanted human lives in their corresponding “clinics”” there would have been no gathering in their memory.
That New Yorker piece you linked to, Neo, which contains the Sharansky quote, ends with this:
I hadn’t read elsewhere that that was the reason for the burial in Jerusalem. It makes me feel like crying.
Good luck with the police state, it’ll do far worse than the Marines in 2005 Iraq.
For those that think the Westerners in the US will somehow “wake” up and become Democrat light or clear eyed and reasoned, you better convince your family and friends of that real quick, before Islam gets a fully manufactured nuclear arsenal from the European production line. They can keep churning out those suckers given that France has a huge number of nuclear reactors that they use for power.
Ann:
I have read there were several reasons, and that was one of them.
The other was that some (perhaps all? I’m not sure) of the murdered men wanted to emigrate to Israel or had a great love of Israel.
I have a family full of ridiculously over educated, ill informed liberals. They know I am very concerned about the coming Muslim take over. You should see how they look at me. With such … PITY and condescension in their eyes. They love me, but stay far away from any topic of a political or cultural nature. It is as if we are living in a Disney cartoon. I live near Duke University. No one has mentioned the Call to Prayer issue. They have not mentioned the French massacre. We aren’t allowed to breathe a word about the ISIS beheadings. I am made to feel like a fragile child whose compensating qualities are my ability to make a lovely home and bake them tasty pies. I am not sure they will ever wake up.
Indoctrinated, certainly.
Comfort level is what many people who live in utopia use in order to avoid hitting rock bottom and doing any kind of reflection or introspection. They can always know that someone else is beneath them and that contempt keeps them going, for another decade in which the Left helps mass murder along.
Now that is is very clear that the Muzzies have no problem getting military style weapons and even police uniforms, the European public may want to reconsider the wisdom of keeping guns away from law abiding citizens. If Jews want guns, they may need to move to the U.S. or Israel.
Interesting history of the KJV of the bible.
http://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1601-1700/story-behind-king-james-bible-11630052.html
Oh Ann; that is very sad indeed.
I heard about the burials in Israel and just made the assumption that they had family there or were planning on moving there.
But, if what you quoted is the sole reason then it is truly sad.
Neo,
Off topic here, but from your 2008 post:
You evince one of the arguments against the use of the vernacular in Protestant services and Catholic/Episcopal masses. With ordinary language one brings ordinary associations to a rite which is intended to be extra-ordinary. I myself prefer the Latin for precisely that same reason.
Geoffrey Britain:
Yeah, so intolerant. Thou shalt not mock Liberal rites. You’re either with the Church or subject to satire.
I recommend clicking neocons “here’s why” hyperlink to a previous piece of hers. Beautiful is all I can say. Okay, enriching also. And educational and …
Neo said:
“Whatever one thinks of the Bible–whether it be the revealed word of God, a metaphor, or wishful thinking–Isaiah 60:12 is interesting in this context ”
One of my favorite Bible passages is Jeremiah 31 which presents the New Covenant. The New Testament is another way name for the same thing, the New Covenant. Christians believe that Jesus inaugurated the New Covenant. Jeremiah ended his discussion of the New Covenant in chapter 31 with the following passage:
“35Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.”
There is no excuse for any Christian who believes the New Covenant to adopt antisemitism or Replacement Theology.
That Isaiah scripture about nations honoring Israel was often pointed out to me by my father, a Baptist minister. Though I am, at best, an unconventional Christian this remains fresh in my mind at age 61.
Neo, thanks for that link to your 2008 piece on the KJV. I love it as well, the more so as more modern translations come out.
This reminds me again why I love the Common Book of Prayer – not that I am an Episcopalian (save in those certain moments) – but for the sheer beauty and poetry of the language. Luther’s Catechism – while it is in my family tradition and what I was schooled in with regards to religion – just doesn’t hit it with me. The Common Book does.
Historically there’s been truth to what the Bible has predicted in this case. Let’s face it. I love France, when I come to think about it, so many things French I love… but they had better figure this out. WE — had better get this one straight. Meaning, start valuing who we are and what we have.
Regarding the King James Bible, we always say it’s English the way Jesus spoke it.;)
While, historically, that seems to be true, I do wonder if that isn’t true of any civil minority. Minorities which are nothing but trouble, of course, create their own reasons for expulsion as we may well see in the West before long, and to no ill effect. There are other questions and doubts. Still, for the most part, I do accept the notion as it pertains to Jews… practicing Jews. The many secular Jews in America, however, I do have great doubts concerning. They are not so much Jewish as socialist and communist, which is against the spirit of the state in which they live.
I want to say something about the King James version, but will need to read your full article before going too far. It was my original bible, the first one I read up until I… wandered away. So I know it well, and accept it, mostly. Having become Catholic since, and wanting to find the right bible, I did a minor survey of the offerings. After serious deliberation, I hit upon the Douay-Rhymes version, or an early version of it (just as there are many revisions of the KJ, so too the D-R). I chose one that has not been sex altered, or modernized, only corrected to more modern language techniques and styles and for errors. The KJ relied heavily upon the D-R, but was altered to be more appealing to non-Catholics, and with certain books (which the Dead Sea scrolls seem to show did belong). I still haven’t figured out why protestants haven’t accepted the books that were denied from a, then, lack of historical reference after the finding of the scrolls… even when I was still non-Catholic… until I realized that those books undo protestant teachings. They might be real, and true, and divinely inspired, but they are inconvenient to a fault.
I’ll… look over your article soon. To see if there is more I can chew off, debate, or find agreement with. Too early, currently. And it’s a long read. :p
Mr. Frank:
“…If Jews want guns, they may need to move to the U.S. or Israel.”
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I’m smiling while reading your comment. European Jews holding the views you reference might NOT want to move here. For there remains a majority of Jews in the U.S. who advocate for gun control and other Liberal causes. It has perplexed me for years that American Jews would hold these views. I’ve asked Dennis Prager, Michael Medved and other erudite Jews why this is. Even they can not adequately explain why it is.
Liberty Wolf:
Well said. I love my brother as you love France. My brother is charming, gentle, a very engaging individual. He’s really a joy to be around. Unless and until he waxes passionately for the Liberal ideals he clings to. He’s a flaming Liberal who fails to see the failures of his positions. And that is tell tale.
France shall NOT be able to emerge from their inability to figure it out.
Nor will the Progressives and Liberals and Leftists who persistently pull at the heartstrings of American culture, and policy.
Enviro-wackos? They are steadfast in their positions.
Progressive Secularists? There is no changing their compass.
Liberal Multi-Culturists? You are not penetrating that group think. They are safely entrenched in academia, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, government, etc.
Liberty Wolf writes:
“WE – had better get this one straight. Meaning, start valuing who we are and what we have.”
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Good luck with that. I have faith in human beings. Many who I come in contact with. I have no faith in humanity. Period.
The solution to the Wests Islam problem is easy:
–An open recognition that ISLAM is the problem. Not radical, not fundamentalist, not extremist, not highjacked Islam, but the core, basic Islam; the Koran, the Haddith, the Sunna is the problem.
–stop Muslim immigration into the West
–deport non-citizen Muslims from the West
–close all foreign funded Mosques
–setup up the equivalent of Radio Free Europe and Voice of America
–kill Jihadis wherever and whenever we can without massive Iraq style invasions.
Of course the West’s elites are all spineless Dhimmi leftists so none of this will come to pass.
It’s amazing that our good neighbor to the north just implemented elements to a new, Immigration Policy, as of, January 1, 2015.
It is remarkable, in its rational approach to this issue:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/express/express-entry.asp
Jolly good show, Oh Canada!…
Bravo on your defense of the KJV, Neo. As a Catholic I think it has theological problems, if only because of the missing books, but it was written during the golden age of the English language, and *much* is lost in simplified translations.
Clarityseeker, as for Jews and guns-I used to favor gun control before it became apparent that Obama is trying to lay the groundwork for a dictatorship in this country. If it were not for that I would have to go by the fact that I know or had second or third person contact with people who killed by handguns in a crime, by accident or suicide but I never had contact with someone who needed or used a gun to defend himself.
The list includes
1) a young neighbor killed in a station station holdup.
2) a museum manager who killed his wife before turning the gun on himself.
3) the gifted son of one of my wife’s co-workers. He was going to the Olympics before he was killed by an armed psycho.
4) my son’s prom date killed while playing a gun.
5) a friend of daughter’s possible suicide.
6) son of a former coworker, gas station fight.
I figure the worse thing one could do to protect one’s family is have a gun in the house.
That said, I wish the Jews of Europe did have some guns.
I figure the worse thing one could do to protect one’s family is have a gun in the house.
Leftist cultural contamination produced the idea that guns were magic totems forbidden to be used or seen. Thus a lot of people sought them out as demonic or holy weapons to solve their issues with.
People who are conditioned from an early age not to play with guns or treat them as holy tools of whatever, come from one specific sub culture in the US and it takes severe psychological trauma to un-condition their early childhood exposure to guns and their power. This isn’t meant to explain the homicide suicides, the next one up explains that part.
The Leftist alliance is ever present to such an extent that it becomes impossible to determine what part of society they have had a hand in subverting. So while it may appear that a lot of the causes are connected to guns, this doesn’t deal with all the cultural contamination and spiritual rot which affected people and motivated them to be anti life. When it comes to Leftist influences, a lot of America’s problems came about due to the Left’s influence, invisible as it is. People considered it more logical to attach negative experiences to the tool or circumstance, that’s the more obvious and short term scenario.
Yet, in this economic downturn, it’s not conservatives or Tea Party people shooting up communities. It’s a specific “kind” of person that has been contaminated by the Left, usually. Or by Islamic Jihad’s unique version of jihad heaven. Far from being new, I think this has always been true, it’s just never been correlated because either the media wasn’t interested or open source data mining wasn’t available due to the lack of the internet.
The Left’s recent op called Fast and Furious was mostly about selling guns to Mexicans so that Mexicans can get killed, thereby allowing Holder and Regime to blame American gun sellers for US guns ending up in Mexico. Basically, it’s to provide a cultural context and justification for people. But the Left has been doing that by generating violence and anti life attitudes in society for a long time, and their effects I would think have already affected people unknowingly. If people end up dying due to X, and people want to avoid X, then there is still a chance that historically X was something created by the Left so that the Left can manipulate people avoiding X.
—kill Jihadis wherever and whenever we can without massive Iraq style invasions.
The tactical and strategic benefit of the Iraq invasion is that it allows the US military to whittle down the jihadists over there, using military power, whereas back here at home you’re going to have problems fighting on the streets with jihadists that are going for their virgins.
Those who wanted that war to end during Bush, either knew that this would happen now or they should have. It’s why Democrats like Hussein Obola wanted to sabotage Iraq and Afghanistan, and why the Democrats seemed pretty close to Syria, Saddam Hussein, and the Taliban.