Ferguson thread
The Ferguson grand jury decision is expected to be announced today.
I’m busy for the rest of the day, so I’m providing this thread for discussion of whatever might be decided, and whatever might ensue.
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Today will be a great day for a riot, as they are primed and ready to go, and all the fuzes are self-lighting.
Riots will ensue. The police should ‘contain’ the riots. Whatever the cost, restrict the riots to their neighborhoods.
Expect Holder to blame the police and initiate a federal ‘investigation’.
Black America HAS to face its cultural dysfunction.
As Mr. Burns would say with clasped hands, “Excellent, excellent!” Let’s announce the decision at 9 p.m., so that we can have an entire night of rioting and looting. Then, let’s have the governor make a speech in which he in effect expects rioting and looting. Yeesh!
Question:
Why, pray tell, would they wait until after dark to make such an announcement which holds such high risk for nefarious, night time activity?
It just seems, had they made the announcement in the morning, it would allow for the highest visibility for law enforcement—–SHOULD violence erupt. It baffles this simple mind…
Question:
Has Eric Holder used his position, his credibility with the black population to make an announcement calling for calm?
My guess is, as a race hustler, a race-baiter, he has not.
Clarityseeker,
Maybe they are waiting for the temperature to drop sothey can use water hoses to turn them into ice cubes.
Ten minutes until the announcement and unlike last week it is about 40 degrees with light wind and a nice six pack beer coat will keep a person fairly warm when engaging in outdoor activities. I understand the disappointment a lot of those folks have and I am disappointed in their conditions too however I think we look in different directions for the cause and the correction.
I am so afraid that by tomorrow morning there will be a lot of damage and injured and maybe dead people and that should not happen. That’s all.
No indictment. Lets hope cooler heads prevail tonight and tomorrow.
No Bill and a very good explanation of the Grand Jury process, a lot of details and at 8:37 it seems as if the crowd is getting restless while the statement is still being read.
Is this story about Americans in Ferguson or Palestinians in the west bank? I can’t tell the difference.
I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS. Comrade ZERO, that SOB, is holding a PRIME TIME PRESS CONFERENCE right now about this on See-BS!!
And saying he’s ordering ERIC HOLDER (what? I thought that Excrescence had stepped out of his “job”?) to organize a Nationwide Re-education effort to “get Whitey’s Mind Right,” as they say in Cool Hand Luke.
WOW. This unspeakable _________! fill it in…. What a bastard. What an utter bastard. He’s dying to start a nationwide “Days of Rage” series of riots from coast to coast.
But guess what? here in NYC there were a bunch of pinkos and race hustlers in Union Square, not far from my apartment, but we can’t even hear any noise. It’s all manufactured, tightly focused, fake BS.
The kid who got shot made some very bad decisions. He strong armed a merchant. He did not get out of the street when told to by a cop. He punched a cop in the face. He went at the cop and got shot. The system worked.
Maybe they burned themselves out last summer
These days everyone is so self absorbed how can anybody
Get into protesting…..unless you get paid
They tried to gin up after zimmerman and that fell flat
Thanks lord. A perk of self absorption
But seeing the “president” of the United States on TV acting like Al Freakin’ Sharpton?!?
This guy just keeps getting worse all the time. . . .
6 years ago I predicted that race relations would regress 50 years under Obama. I may have been optimistic.
In a few days we will learn that the people of Ferguson have no place to shop and many have lost their jobs at the places burned out. Who could have seen that coming?
The grand jury returned the correct decision and the Prosecutors release of all the testimony will make clear to rational people (those on the right) the rectitude of their decision.
As Ann Coulter wrote in her book Demonic, the left functions as a mob, so of course there are mobs in Ferguson and around the country. None of their spokesman is rational and will accept no evidence.
Mobs should be suppressed with maximum violence. They are extremely destructive to civil society doing long term damage to the country.
In a few days we will learn that the people of Ferguson have no place to shop and many have lost their jobs at the places burned out.
And the last dozen people in that pathetic city who aren’t on welfare will now go on it.
What I did not hear from our esteemed National Leader was that a group of people worked real hard for a long time to determine, based upon the evidence that a young very large and strong criminal, after committing a robbery was stopped by a policeman who while trying to question the criminal was attacked by the criminal and had to fight to keep his gun and then after shots were fired, the criminal started to walk away from until he, the criminal turned and charged the police officer who had to fire numerous times to put the criminal down dead and it was a good shooting and justice was served with a no bill. That is a long sentence but it was one I should have heard from Obama tonight and instead he just poured verbal gasoline on a tense situation and that is too bad for the black folks in Ferguson.
And once again, per usual, the race-baiter-in-chief used words that, to the LIV, sound soothing. But they were words that incite and foment under the surface. I can’t listen to him; he makes my skin crawl.
I guess the only solution to our national “race problem”, wholly manufactured by Sharpton et. al. is that black people can just ignore the laws with impunity, and white police are supposed to accept that they can’t defend themselves. What else are we to infer from the largely rejected decision of the Grand Jury?
It seems to me the grand jury heard the evidence – and this is a very one-sided process as only the prosecutor presents evidence – and determined there was no probable cause to charge Officer Wilson with a felony. Unfortunately, the quest for the truth here has long since been usurped by hysteria and groupthink.
The left in this country really doesn’t care about the truth, they have a narrative and will oil and shape any “facts” to fit within the narrative. Facts which don’t fit the narrative, such as the clearly belligerent frame of mind demonstrated by Mr. Brown’s behavior in the store, are ignored or denounced as hateful. Meaningful discussion is impossible. And now that they have a “movement” as evidenced by widespread protests, the ball is really rolling.
When reason and rationality leave the room, the truth is sure to follow.
By the way, I lived through one of the major riots of the sixties, I cannot say enough about the general incompetence of the officials in Missouri, which they have demonstrated from the very beginning. For starters, they need to impose a dusk to dawn curfew and arrest anyone who breaches it. And as a follow up, they need to stop apologizing for defending the rule of law. The alternative to the rule of law is the rule of the mob.
Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch laid out what happened, countered the false testimony with forensic evidence, and exonerated Wilson. It should be “so what?”.
But the race hustlers, starting with President Obama and Attorney General Holder, turned this into a race based hate-fest by their untempered by reality remarks.
Considering all the racial animosity that’s been ginned up, to allow time for working stiffs to get safely home before all the nonsense starts, rather than have the rioters close off roads, causing massive traffic stoppages (which would create victims sitting in their cars).
I thought it was a good move to announce the verdict after dark.
One of the things that I wonder about is the people of Ferguson? Not the rioters or the professionals brought in to destroy the city and surrounding areas, but those that live and work there. Will they have any recourse? any justice for property owners? what about insurance rates? Will the city or state be able to hold the perpetrators liable? would RICO statutes apply? The Governor and local authorities are sworn to uphold the law, and seem to have taken a powder, when needed most. What will be the precedent if something happens in another town or city and a Soros bank-rolled outfit decides to destroy it?
Never forget that but for Officer Wilson’s actions, the likely news story would have been: “Officer shot with own weapon. Suspect at large. No witnesses.”
Its morning, i am on vacation, i first get my paper from the street as its delivered. whats on the cover of the Daily News? Word games.
“Ferguson grand jury lets killer cop walk”
the terms being used describe a guilty person being let go. not “ferguson grand jury finds cop not guilty” or some other such phrase closer to the truth based on facts.
Wendy Williams came on after the news, and she is telling the story how she waited with her kids for four hours to see the verdict. implied that they waited till 9pm becuse thats riot time and if they did it at 5, thats not night and dark enough for the riots.
then the next thing out of her mouth is that she is worried for her two sons, her husband and her father.
why… is she telling us that her two sons, father and husband are all thug crooks who would steal cigars to make blunts rather than pay for them? would walk in the road instead of on the side?
does her father, husband or sons have a second degree murder charge as a juvenile? the record also describes his links to the Crips?
Then she gives a shout out to the “good cops” and saying we need to pay cops a whole lot more money. and instead of sending them to the academy, sending them for a 4 year degree too.
then she talks of cameras on the cops, guns, and how about the billy clubs (?)…
given libs, and taxes, how could you afford 4 year college degrees for all police? cameras on the billy clubs is ridiculous, as you would see nothing useful in use. camera on guns is a bit better, but cameras on cops is good, not to mention that they already have them on many cars.
but what they found when they have cameras on cars, is that there are more convictions and less usful ambiguity.
what she did NOT call for is a end to the race baiting, the lies passing for news, as she is part of that, and so on…
then she at least condemns the rioting and burning down where you live… then to social media, dancing with the stars was interrupted, which she condemns the people writing.
this is amazing…
what is sad is that given the facts of the case, the black population as a whole is multiplying the wrong headed idea that all blacks are stupid, violent, criminal loving, crime loving, etc..
wendy should be more worried that a black person will hurt or kill one of her children, father or husband. but when rudy gulliani pointed it out, he was told that this is a white supremicists view. and that now, thug = ni**er… as we all speak in code words, which is a way to spread verbal control over language by guilty association
again
amazing…
but now, innocent white people will have to worry about random attacks by blacks, which vastly outnumber white attacks on blacks. in fact, when they discuss it, they discuss one on one attacks, when the majority of them are two or more on one.
there is also race hate against chinese… we have an incident where a chinese man with his wife was randomly pushed on a track by a black man.
meanwhile, those of african ancestry do not notice that dark skinned people from india, do not share the problem they believe is based on their skin color. hmmmmmm….
given i was attacked three times last year, my wife and i are kind of worried going forwards…
Why, pray tell, would they wait until after dark to make such an announcement which holds such high risk for nefarious, night time activity?
to reduce the hours of night available… people usually go to sleep at 11 or 12 the latest… they find it harder to keep going till dawn. say at five, when the sun is almost down, adds four hours of wake time to the rioting time. doing it later, will limit damage as it limits the number of hours possible to riot. as it gets later and later, people will leave and go home more and more.
measure the time from 5pm to dawn, and 9pm to dawn… the idea of most people is that the riot would care about being seen in the light, but thats not a factor. you can go to tapes of rioting from compton, ny, asbury park, alabama, lousiana, etc… the rioters dont care about light or dark, as their idea is that there are too many to be arrested. (remember the store owners in various places on the roofs with rifles protecting their property in the light when police just stood there and watched. and some black officers were filmed looting with the rioters?)
harold Mobs should be suppressed with maximum violence. They are extremely destructive to civil society doing long term damage to the country.
well.. thats what they did in the soviet union, and how to break the constitutional right of freedom of association.
in totalitarian states, they forbid people to get togeter in any large numbers for any reason, lest they end the totalitarian state.
see? the left has herded harold into favoring aspects of totalitarianism as a solution…
wunderbar herr harold…
Kalneva I guess the only solution to our national “race problem”, wholly manufactured by Sharpton et. al. is that black people can just ignore the laws with impunity, and white police are supposed to accept that they can’t defend themselves.
you just invented the position of the race baiters like the panthers… who claim that since blacks didnt make the laws blacks should not be subjected to the laws (as they are invented by whites to oppress blacks and people of race… except chinese, pakistani, dark skinned people from india, japanese post wwii, etc)
Reginald Denny… (saved by green)
Korea town, saved by guns…
1992 – they rioted for over 24 hours, more than 8 people murdered. people dragged from their cars, shops cleaned out, film clips of cops running away or just standing there…
Beverly: “And saying he’s ordering ERIC HOLDER (what? I thought that Excrescence had stepped out of his “job”?) to organize a Nationwide Re-education effort to “get Whitey’s Mind Right,” as they say in Cool Hand Luke.”
Just so. Methinks the underlying design is a narrative to make reparations (more looting of the middle class by the “brothers,”) the only path to peace. Obama and Holder aren’t ready to say it openly………..yet.
This reminds me of the late 60s and early 70s. I saw Watts burn, Baltimore in flames, Washington D.C. under siege, and more. We thought that all that was behind us, but the agitators (the anarchists, the Black Power grabbers, the Alinskyites, and the Sharpton/Jackson/NAACP axis, and others) want another round of meanness in the streets to show whitey they ain’t satisfied.
We have a black President, a black Attorney General, many elected black officials, many black corporate leaders, and so on. There are no color barriers for those who get educated, learn a skill, and work hard. But we still be a raciss society. 🙁
New York Times publishes Darren Wilson’s home address.
Why?
Was it an attempt at not being, one-upped, by any Spike Lee’s this time?
http://www.ibtimes.com/new-york-times-publishes-darren-wilsons-address-info-ferguson-simmers-1728676
Not to be outdone, Slate includes a photograph so that any “unexpected” visitors do not make the kind of amateur mistakes brought about by the Spike Lee’s among us.
United States of America is lost. It needs a real leader. It needs someone to come in and remove fabricated focus on racial issues. There is simply no good to come of this type of activity surrounding the Ferguson, MO story. Especially when the NYT’s and Slates of the world unleash their version of “values”.
Especially when MSNBC and CBS and CNN introduce, “legal experts”, who provide skewed and inaccurate assessment of the verdict, the legal process, and “what should have occurred”.
Real leadership is what this country yearns. Put these BOZOS back from where they came…
SLATE:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/24/darren_wilson_married_recently_wed_fellow_officer_barbara_spradling.html?wpsrc=fol_tw
Pathetic
All one has to do is watch the show “hard core pawn”, and you can see a parade of people who obviously cant hold a job, HAVE to be either thieving or on welfare. You can also see the differences between “the races” in terms of behavior, attitude, etc. No one is talking about people who dont act like this of any race. I work and have lived with wonderful people, of all races. but the people that show up for this show, obviously edited to favor showing them for ratings, reminds me of the people i grew up with in the inner city slum that was my childhood. completely disfunctional, and the core people who would loot businesses… deluded that with their attitudes and behavior, they deserve what people without those attitudes or behaviors have – and show and say and obviously feel justified in such behavior. so whats the solution? easy. give them more money so that they can have children, and take it away from the other more successful people (of all races) whose children would never behave this way…
here is what gets me.. what makes people like pelosi, and others in state, think that these people would, when the majority, vote FOR them and not for some other jerks? that is, maybe the idea is for the party to win elections, but what if the party elects people who are not like the idiots in the state who are creating this situation for the purpose of personal rewards.
unbelievable…