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  1. I’ve never heard of that visa program before–what are these tech jobs?

    I’m sure they are shovel-ready.

  2. We are headed to a completely avoidable constitutional crisis.

    Look for someone with legal standing to seek an injunction to prevent the issuing of work permits.

  3. May I suggest you modify the term to obamanasty. I think it rolls off the tongue more sweetly.

    I agree on a short term cr, and then send a spending bill to get the feds funded until 11/15 that will gut funds for bho’s pet projects, and most of all gut dhs. No more funds for the green agenda, no funds for agw research, no funds for nasa mission to bloster the collective egos of muslims, no funding for amnesty, etc. The election was all about bho, the voters have spoken, including those who stayed home.

  4. And as to those tech job.

    This is a payoff to Google, Facebook et al. in order to keep salaries low and profits high. As if they weren’t already making enough money.

    Simply stated: a price fixing scheme on salaries established by the government.

  5. “Obamanasty.”
    Don’t you mean Obamanesty? BTW, illegal immigrant is an oxymoron because immigrants are by definition here legally.

  6. Obama will violate the constitution if he does this

    and will have broken several laws..

    one the law that punishes if he breaks the oaths of office
    two, the constitutional provision that empowers congress to make uniform immigration laws.

    in fact. i couild list dozens of various violations of such things.

    see 5 U.S.C. 3331, 5 U.S.C. 3333, 5 U.S.C. 7311, 18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.

    from 10450

    (1) Depending on the relation of the Government employment to the national security:
    (i) Any behavior, activities, or associations which tend to show that the individual is not reliable or trustworthy.
    (ii) Any deliberate misrepresentations, falsifications, or omissions of material facts.
    (iii) Any criminal, infamous, dishonest, immoral, or notoriously disgraceful conduct, habitual use of intoxicants to excess, drug addiction, sexual perversion.
    (iv) Any illness, including any mental condition, of a nature which in the opinion of competent medical authority may cause significant defect in the judgment or reliability of the employee, with due regard to the transient or continuing effect of the illness and the medical findings in such case.
    (v) Any facts which furnish reason to believe that the individual may be subjected to coercion, influence, or pressure which may cause him to act contrary to the best interests of the national security.

    (2) Commission of any act of sabotage, espionage, treason, or sedition, or attempts thereat or preparation therefore, or conspiring with, or aiding or abetting, another to commit or attempt to commit any act of sabotage, espionage, treason, or sedition.

    (3) Establishing or continuing a sympathetic association with a saboteur, spy, traitor, seditionist, anarchist, or revolutionist, or with an espionage or other secret agent or representative of a foreign nation, or any representative of a foreign nation whose interests may be inimical to the interests of the United States, or with any person who advocates the use of force or violence to overthrow the government of the United States or the alteration of the form of government of the United States by unconstitutional means.

    (3) Establishing or continuing a sympathetic association with a saboteur, spy, traitor, seditionist, anarchist, or revolutionist, or with an espionage or other secret agent or representative of a foreign nation, or any representative of a foreign nation whose interests may be inimical to the interests of the United States, or with any person who advocates the use of force or violence to overthrow the government of the United States or the alteration of the form of government of the United States by unconstitutional means.
    (4) Advocacy of use of force or violence to overthrow the government of the United States, or of the alteration of the form of government of the United States by unconstitutional means.
    (5) Knowing membership with the specific intent of furthering the aims of, or adherence to and active participation in, any foreign or domestic organization, association, movement, group, or combination of persons (hereinafter referred to as organizations) which unlawfully advocates or practices the commission of acts of force or violence to prevent others from exercising their rights under the Constitution or laws of the United States or of any State, or which seeks to overthrow the Government of the United States or any State or subdivision thereof by unlawful means.
    (6) Intentional, unauthorized disclosure to any person of security information, or of other information disclosure of which is prohibited by law, or willful violation or disregard of security regulations.
    (7) Performing or attempting to perform his duties, or otherwise acting, so as to serve the interests of another government in preference to the interests of the United States.
    (8) Refusal by the individual, upon the ground of constitutional privilege against self-incrimination, to testify before a congressional committee regarding charges of his alleged disloyalty or other misconduct.

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/10450.html

    Executive Order 10450, also bans gays and lesbians from working… though i have yet to read if that was changed… (the reason is that they were often used for spying… ie. people used to living dual lives find it easy to live dual lives)

  7. on anoter note

    Russia prepares nuclear surprise for NATO
    12.11.2014

    http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/12-11-2014/129015-russia_nato_nuclear_surprise-0/

    The progress was made possible thanks to the treaty on the limitation of nuclear weapons, also known as START-3. The treaty was signed by Dmitry Medvedev and Barack Obama on 8 April 2010 in Prague (came into force on 5 February 2011). In accordance with the document, nuclear warheads of the parties are to be reduced to 1,550 by 2021. The number of carriers (intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles and heavy bombers) is supposed to be cut to 700 units.

    It was the first strategic agreement, after the treacherous policy of democrats, in which Russia managed to win significant advantages.

    =================

    As is known, the main striking force, the core of combat power of the ground forces are tanks. By the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Russian Armed Forces had about 20,000 tanks in the ETO

    ===================

    How do things work in this area now? In early 2013, the Americans withdrew the last group of heavy Abrams tanks from Europe……..

    ………..At the same time, Russia was not decommissioning its tanks.

    As a result, today Russia is the absolute leader in this regard. In mid-2014, the balance of the Defense Ministry had as many as 18,177 tanks

    T-90 – 400 pcs.
    T-72B – 7,144 pcs.
    T-80 – 4,744 pcs
    T-64 – 4,000 pcs
    T-62 – 689 pcs
    T-55 – 1200 pcs.

    ===================

    To date, NATO countries have only 260 tactical nuclear weapons in the ETO The United States has 200 bombs with a total capacity of 18 megatons. They are located on six air bases in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Turkey. France has 60 more atomic bombs. That is pretty much it. Russia, according to conservative estimates, has 5,000 pieces of different classes of TNW – from Iskander warheads to torpedo, aerial and artillery warheads!

  8. “The plan calls for expanding deferred action for illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children – but also for the parents of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents.”

    The next border crisis will be all of the pregnant women coming over the border so they can have their “anchor baby” in the USA. I also predict a large number of new babies born to illegals sometime in the August/September/October 2015 timeframe.

  9. Sangiovese, the honduras is demaning a few billion dollars or it will send children over the border..

    other countries are following suit.

    then there was the four terrorists from turkey that paid 8000 to come over the border…

    lots of other things, including a huge cross border market in hand grenades…

    Venezuela bought some $5 billion worth of military hardware
    the full order of 100,000 AK-103s had been manufactured and delivered to Venezuela, and that Russia was negotiating the sale of “about 5,000” Dragunovs as part of a separate arms deal.

    brazil purchased the Igla.. (a portable surface-to-air missile), and there is no way to know if such was shared with nicaraagua, peru, bolivia, chile, honduras..

    oh.. and if you think that kids coming over the border are harmless… see the book
    From Vietnam to El Salvador: The Saga of the FMLN Sappers and Other Guerrilla Special Forces in Latin America

    Child Soldier Use: The Diffusion of a Tactical Innovation
    http://www.usma.edu/nsc/siteassets/sitepages/5th%20annual%20network%20science%20workshop/the%20diffusion%20of%20a%20tactical%20innovation.pdf
    For the 107 armed conflicts that occurred
    from 1987 -2007, 78% involved child soldiers. Government forces used child soldiers in almost 49% of the conflicts while opposition forces used child soldiers in a bout 67% of the conflicts (Tynes 2010)
    .

    [note. my note on tanks only mentions main battle tanks, not the OTHER Tanks… the list leaves out the heavy tanks!!]

  10. A problem with any of these amnesty plans is static scoring. The assumption is we have a finite number of people in the country illegally who can be dealt with and the problem is solved. Unfortunately, in the real world an amnesty triggers an increase in the number of aliens crossing the border. The proposal to give work permits to illegal parents of children who were born in the U.S. would trigger pregnant women to cross the border and would encourage illegals to have babies to qualify for work permits.

    Any amnesty must be preceded by effective borders and harsh penalties for employers who hire illegals.

  11. As far as th GOP plan: “But in the next Congress, the House could pull out the Homeland Security budget (rather than fold it into an omnibus funding bill for the whole government) and attach the rider just to that, so when Obama vetoes it, only DHS will be subject to a “shutdown.”

    I would remind everyone that the Coast Guard falls under DHS. Does the GOP also want to shut down maritime rescue/safety/sea patrol also? Seems the baby thrown out with the bathwater to me.

  12. “in the real world an amnesty triggers an increase in the number of aliens crossing the border.” Mr Frank

    Of course, that’s the point of amnesty. You don’t think that Obama and the democrats only want to legalize and give citizenship to just the criminal aliens that are here now, do you?

    “Any amnesty must be preceded by effective borders and harsh penalties for employers who hire illegals.”

    They’ll be happy to make any promises to do such that you’d like. Since there are already such laws on the books, now they’ll enforce them, really… it’s a promise. Scout’s honor.

  13. physics guy…

    The USCG would be deemed essential — and thus could ride on though the travails.

    It’s the office staff/ paper pushing crowd that would be sitting at home.

  14. In my experience the H1-B visa program is used to bring in educated, skilled workers with a drive to succeed. I work in the health care field and have worked along side (and supervised) Occupational Therapists, Physical Therapists and Speech Therapists in this country on H1-B visas from many countries. Typically they are above average clinicians and excellent employees. They are required to pass the same boards and have the same educational requirements as any other therapist, cost the same to employ and are often the only therapists willing to work in rural areas.

  15. I’ve been in some foreign countries recently. I was required to have a passport and visa. Why? Because those foreign countries want to know who is in their country and they have the sovereign right to know and to bar anyone they don’t want from entering. How did that all change here? Where do the progs get the idea that borders are meaningless? What would happen to an American who crossed into Mexico without his papers in order and permission to be there? He would be lucky if they only deported him.

    When did the double standard become the norm? I agree the progs think the Latinos will be future voters. What they are ignoring are the costs to our welfare and Medicaid systems, the importing of diseases, the easier influx of illegal drugs, the impact on low wage workers, the probability that terrorists will use our porous border to infiltrate, and much more. In the area of protecting our sovereignty we have become a Banana Republic. Our government is no longer one of laws, but of men and their desires.

    Whatever the Republicans can do to stop Obama, they should do. (Short of impeachment – unless the votes become available in the Senate.) Methinks it’s time for citizens to take to the streets again as the TEA Party did in 2010. We citizens have had a lot of injustices (Obamacare, EPA regs, no Keystone XL, IRS targeting of conservatives, Benghazi cover up, Fast and Furious, and much more) rammed down our throats. The curtain has parted showing that the Wizard Obama is a total left wing ideologue who ignores the law and the will of the “stupid” voters. Are we citizens or are we sheeple? “To the streets!” I say.

  16. An interesting idea from a commenter, sevenwheel, at Belmont Club:
    “Amnesty will be dead the instant some well-placed Republican casually notes that an “amnesty” database of information on illegal aliens can become a deportation database in the blink of an eye and a change of administration.”

    Might be something to that.

  17. J.J., as you no doubt know, the one ruling passion of the Leftists, including most emphatically Comrade Zero, is a visceral hatred of America, so opening our borders for the rape of the nation is their dearest desire.

    All I needed to see to “smell ’em out” was their immediate adoption of the muslims as their latest sacred cows/pets as soon as they burned thousands of Americans alive. Which revealed, in a stroke, their utter disregard for women’s rights, human rights more generally, if they have a chance to drive the knife into Americans and twist it — hard.

    Everything they do follows that motive like a compass needle to the pole star.

  18. Regarding the H1-B controversy, I deal with it regularly in trying to hire engineers. I am not sure if you would call it a cheap labor issue in tech jobs – it’s an over simplification of the law. The one component that is probably at the heart of it is needing to prove to the state department you can’t hire an American to do the job, and you generally need to pay the foreign national a significantly higher salary than the labor market as we know it demands. The state department has it’s own schedule for salaries.
    I tend to support it because it is protecting Americans from being flooded with foreign labor of all kinds. It’s probably hypocritical of me, because the truth is as a percentage of college goers, very few Americans seek an engineering degree. I think the same is true for doctors. This is an advantage for those of us in these professions, but it’s not like anybody didn’t have the same chance to go after if they wanted it. So there is a shortage of engineers from a company perspective- because it’s hard to find good ones and and they cost a lot.
    If this part of the H1-B program is amended, it may benefit the overall economy, but I doubt it. Most likely it will benefit investors and share holders as the dividend price for tech companies goes up, an native Americans engineering salaries go down. It’s unfortunate most Americans aren’t willing to work at the mathematics required to get the degree, but it seems to be the road block for most. After you get through it, its a great job and I would recommend it to anyone.
    This is most likely why Republican leadership are giving lip service to immigration reform. They’re willing to dump a 10 or 15 million illegal, low or zero skilled people into our society so that a few hundred thousand engineers and scientists can easily emigrate here and satisfy their corporate donors. It’s always about money and votes with politicians – Republicans too, especially the “establishment Republicans”.

  19. Beverly: “J.J., as you no doubt know, the one ruling passion of the Leftists, including most emphatically Comrade Zero, is a visceral hatred of America, so opening our borders for the rape of the nation is their dearest desire.”

    Why don’t they realize they are going to have to live in the crappy Banana Republic they create? Do they think they can just float along, immune to the consequences? If so, they are far dumber than I ever believed.

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  21. southpaw Says:
    November 14th, 2014 at 7:54 am

    Regarding the H1-B controversy,…

    &&&

    The fact is that the big players: HP, Apple, Google, MSFT, Intel, are scamming the law in practice.

    It doesn’t matter what your opinion is: they are massively and fraudulently manipulating ‘the system’ on a GRAND scale.

    There are attorneys whose whole practice turns on fraudulent H1-b paperwork.

    They are not one-man outfits. One of them is a major firm in Portland, Oregon and their premier client is HP.

    Their number one sales-attorney has a video up on YouTube spelling out in explicit detail how he and his peers have made a TOTAL mockery of this visa permit.

    He claims that his firm has NEVER failed to draft a want ad that was able to exclude all American STEM talent — while leaving a hole for Indian ‘imports.’ (Indians programmers are his stock and trade.)

    He further elucidates that the wage savings run to at least 50% AND that the poor Indian slob is CHAINED TO THE JOB. He’s indentured by way of the H1-b visa provisions.

    H1-b brings back indentured labor!

    Forgotten by most, this was one of the key issues for the Revolutionary War. (especially for Irish combatants)

    And it was from indentured service/ labor law that slavery — de jure — arose. I’m constantly shocked as to how few realize how slavery got started: indentureds.

    Slavery was nothing more than codified perpetual indentured status — eventually extending to one’s heirs. (more like anti-heirs in this case.)

    In sum, for all of the big boys, the H1-b program is fraudulently applied. All of the paperwork is a con. In the event that a native American actually applies for a job slot — the advert is pulled — the job offer cancelled — and a new, more restrictive advert is placed.

    BTW, it’s actually the case that un-responded adverts are an essential element of legal proof that there are no qualified Americans willing and able to take up the proffered position.

    The Catch-22 is that the job offer is nixxed the second an American applies!

    THAT’S how ‘the system’ REALLY works.

    And the key players hold seminars and post YouTube videos to spell it all out for the slow witted. These jovial accounts are much to listen to. (The players are laughing at ‘the system.’)

    And this is not restricted to one law firm with only dozens on the payroll. Our man tells of buddy law firms across the entire nation all replicating his results — in all relevant markets.

    &&&

    Down the road, our software giants will face horrific competition from Indian outfits. That’s in the bank.

    All of them will have been jump-started by the American H1-b visa scam.

    BTW, the Big Boys don’t care that Indian programmers are half as efficient as Americans. (generally true — no acculturation — the gaffs will astound) What counts to American management is how it looks on paper: wage rates per hour are held down.

    There is no paper trail showing that these fellows are drastically slower than natives.

    %%%

    The average/ norm IQ in India is approximately 80-84. So even with 1,000,000,000 souls, India really doesn’t have any surplus brains to export.

    In a larger sense, the H1-b program is a cultural crime against India. It’s participants should be staying home to become doctors, politicians, and business founders. It’s no wonder India can’t quite get out of first gear: brain drain.

  22. Bert no doubt there are law firms scamming and getting rich off the H1-B paperwork. Our corporate lawyers have a giant firm they work with. But I assure you that I am paying these guys and women on the high end of the spectrum. I direct over a hundred engineers and approve the offers, the raises, etc.
    I don’t know what Apple and HP are doing, but my company is 30 billion in market capitaization, and these folks as of now are getting a salary that is in the top 10% for that job.

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