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  1. Whenever you purchase a gun (in a non-private sale) you must fill out a federal form and answer a series of questions. one of which is ““have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to any mental institution?” Neither of these would have excluded Rodgers, but California goes even further, and prohibits anyone from buying a gun if they have “communicated to a licensed psychotherapist a serious threat of physical violence against a reasonably identifiable victim or victims.” Psychotherapists in California are required to immediately report such threats to to local law enforcement.

    So, I’d be curious to know whether Rodgers ever said anything to his many therapists which should have placed him on the excluded list.

  2. Why have a gun database? Really?

    So you know where the guns are when the time comes to confiscate them, perhaps in the aftermath of a natural disaster?

    It has happened before, and it has been well established that gun registration is nearly worthless as a crime fighting tool. That is why the Canadian got rid of their gun registration system.

  3. This only highlights Statism as the worst form of governance. Four or six (both #s cited) deputies employed by taxpayers perform a “wellness check” on a guy with three guns which he is entitled to own by the State’s own smothering law. Four or six! Must be stimulus money for their pay. The cops don’t use the gun registry paid for by taxpayers…because that is not why the registry exists. It exists as a) a registration hurdle for the hoi polloi and b) as a log for future mass confiscation of guns when Hussein or similar suspends the Constitution.

    Neo, I see you now deem Asperger’s as a possible diagnosis for Rodger. After I raised the autism- Asperger’s issue, you chastened me because “they are quite different” or something similar. I checked- DSM-5 does away with Asperger’s, lumping it into the apparently unitary “Autism spectrum disorder” diagnosis. I’m doing OK as a non-shrink, thank you.

  4. Don Carlos:

    I believe you are forgetting what I actually said in that earlier thread about Rodger.

    I had mentioned a dual diagnosis—Asperger’s and psychopathy—and agreed that that was a possibility for Rodger, but that the psychopathy rather than the Asperger’s was the primary cause, much as I wrote in this present thread.

    Where I disagreed with you (and “chastened” you, in your word) was that I wrote that I thought you might mean Rodger was Asperger’s (rather than autistic).

    Then you came back with:

    Autism or Asperger’s, not a big difference. Kinda like the difference between a turnip and a rutabaga. color and flavor but they’re both root veggies, grow in same place at same time, same shape, store ‘em the same, they cook the same.

    And I replied:

    Actually, there’s a huge difference between autism and Asperger’s.

    That, as far as I can see, was the sum total of our exchange in that thread on the matter. But I will add here that I am well aware of the changes in the DSM, placing autism and Asperger’s on a single spectrum. However, I will add that I certainly don’t always agree with the DSM and in this case I think that, although the two do share certain characteristics, they are (as I said before) very very different. I was not speaking of the DSM classification, but of the older terminology and their definitions (Asperger’s isn’t even used in the new terminology, but I think it is a useful term that describes a phenomenon quite distinct from autism).

    Sort of like—to use an analogy from your own field, an analogy that of course is far from perfect—the difference between skin cancer and lung cancer.

    So I don’t just now deem Asperger’s as a possible diagnosis for Rodger. I deemed it one back in the older thread, too, as I indicated in this comment in that thread and particularly this one:

    My quick reading of him, for what it’s worth, is that he’s a sociopath/psychopath, and perhaps high-functioning Asperger’s as well. But that’s just a guess. I wouldn’t say schizophrenic because his thoughts don’t seem characteristic of that.

    Lumping the 2 categories together into one in the DSM was a very recent and very controversial change—and, I think, a wrongheaded one.

  5. OK, you’re the pro and I’m not! Agreed. Didn’t intend to have you root thru the digital record.
    But the Rodger response matter remains before us.

  6. The NRA (yes, I am a lifetime member) has long lobbied for funding to enable mental health professionals to communicate with the NICS database. Guess who has opposed this idea? The NRA successfully lobbied (about 10 or 12 years ago) for a law that mandates a minimum of 5 years in a federal pen for any felon found in possession of a firearm. Guess who has failed to enforce this law?

    The left wallow in the blood of victims as they pursue their goal to totally disarm the people. Pried from cold dead fingers indeed. These people know not the unintended consequences of their agenda. Teach your children and grandchildren well and start them off young (age 6) with the basics of firearm training.

  7. I am not expert, but I have spent 8 years working one on one with elementary students on the ‘spectrum’. The range of behaviors and potentials of autistic kids is very broad. Many are capable of functioning independently with assistance as the reach adult age. Those labeled asperger are usually highly functional and would appear, in a different age, as merely eccentric. Bottomline: no matter the ‘handicap’ the individual still must be held accountable for their actions.

  8. Columbo was a fictive detective.

    There is no chance that a line officer will have the psychological insight required.

  9. Californians, who helped Fast and Furious, who helped cover up the arms being sold to AQ in Libya, now lecture us that we need to disarm ourselves, our children, our womenfolk because some demon spawn of a Hollywood director shot up some women.

    Can you believe that? Think about it. Keep that in mind when they start spitting on you. Compassion isn’t the emotion we should feel towards them. Empathy and understanding aren’t the emotions we should feel towards them. They and their Yeeland death merchants selling guns, need a Purer emotion than that.

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