Hinderaker on the Zimmerman trial
Yesterday there should have been a directed verdict, and Hinderaker states why.
But of course that’s not what happened. And no one realistically expected it to, either, because this case has been fatally compromised from the start. Hinderaker agrees that the mothers’ testimony about the screams probably should never have even been allowed (I wrote about those problems yesterday). But really, at this point (to coin a phrase), what difference does it make? The trial is transparently a travesty.
Nevertheless, I get a sinking feeling that Zimmerman will be found guilty. Maybe it’s my pessimism at work, but just as the judge has consistently bent over backwards to rule for the prosecution, I suspect that the jury will, too.
Here’s a great comment on the Hinderaker thread:
To paraphrase Orwell from his “Homage to Catalonia”: when traitors were needed, I saw heroes slandered as traitors. When heroes were needed, I saw cowards hailed as heroes. What does the left need Zimmerman to be? Need I ask?
The prosecution’s own witnesses damaged the prosecution’s case; beyond repair from the standpoint of legal commentators-though not the ideologically committed media. The defense witnesses will complete the process of raising reasonable doubt. In fact I have heard it suggested that the defense merely recall the prosecution’s witnesses.
Barring an astounding and implausible demolition of Zimmerman’s defense, a guilty verdict could reflect only:
– A jury afraid for their own persons.
– A jury intimidated by the prospect of civil unrest in the event of an acquittal.
– A jury dominated by persons who formed a preconceived opinion of Zimmerman’s guilt and perjured themselves during their examination
As a society, we are not yet totally in the hands of those who see legal guilt or innocence as a matter of political convenience.
Sad as it is to say this, I wish white people would riot.
“As a society, we are not yet totally in the hands of those who see legal guilt or innocence as a matter of political convenience.”
Perhaps not but how far off can we be?
This is not a criminal trial, this is a political lynching.
The Judge didn’t have the courage to direct a verdict since she alone would have been deemed responsible for the unrest that followed. If a jury doesn’t convict the blame will be shared by 6 although I believe they will be too afraid personally to acquit.
There will be a quite reversal on appeal a few years later and no re-trial. But, Zimmerman probably will not live out his natural life.
Sorry, quiet.
No matter what the verdict there will be an appeal and the kangaroo court circus will have a second act.
If the judge threw out the case, the judge would be lynched by blacks.
If the jury doesn’t convict Zimmerman, each jury member will be lynched (and likely raped before) by blacks.
Whether Zimmerman is found guilty or innocent, he will be murdered in horrific fashion by blacks.
On the other hand, if the jury acquits this lessens the charge of the Sharpton’s and Jackson’s that the system is rigged against blacks. Not entirely mind you, but if the judge held a direct verdict it would have seemed more so.
Im hoping the jury does the right thing here. If not there’s still an appeal process, but the rule of law in this country takes a big hit anyway.
If only Nifong had received some jail time for his malfesence in the Duke lacross team rape case. Then prosecutors might think twice before bringing unfounded charges against someone.
I wonder whether the defence will find a way to introduce the 17-year-old troublemaker Martin to the jury. That youthful picture doesn’t seem to represent the real Trayvon.
I am so naive that I still cannot believe, after hearing the evidnece, that a jury in America will convict him. But Neo and Mr. Britain are right, This is not a criminal trial, this is a Stalin political trial.
I remember when America was a Rockwell painting. Since Obama it is more like Edvard Munch’s” The Scream.” And I will be making that face if he is found guilty like I did after Obama was elected or rather selected.
“I remember when America was a Rockwell painting. Since Obama it is more like Edvard Munch’s” The Scream.””
A good analogy. I want my country back, not so much for me, but for my children and grandchildren.
Profiles in cowardice:
He should not have been charged.
The judge should have made a directed verdict.
Hopefully the citizens will have the (metaphorical) balls to do the right thing, since we can’t count on public officials having any spine.
Right now, Geoffrey Britain, I would call it an _attempted_ political lynching. The surprise-free projection would be:
-The defense makes equally good use of its own witnesses as it did of the prosecution’s.
– Prosecution attempts to intimidate the jury during summation.
– Acquittal (A hung jury is possible, but a guilty verdict seems improbable.)
– Immediate rearrest of Zimmerman on Federal civil rights charges. (I would be surprised at any delay, since I assume that a sealed indictment already exists.)
– Heavy overcharging of Zimmerman in an attempt to induce him to plead guilty to lesser charges.
What keeps bothering me is the judge repeatedly telling the defense, “We will instruct the jury on how to interpret the applicable laws” or something to that effect, I don’t remember it exactly . Is that how they are going to force a guilty verdict in the face of loads of conflicting evidence? By telling the jury that self defense doesn’t apply?
Neoneocon is more qualified to make this kind of observation than me, but among weak minds, maybe the group-think of 11 other people exerts more pressure than that of 5 other people (as there’s just a 6-person jury in this case.) All it takes is 1 person for a hung jury. I’m confident that all 6 of the jurors have the intelligence to know that the prosecution has no case; so all Zimmerman needs is 1 person with the courage of that conviction.
The outcome of the trial doesn’t matter. The purpose is to incite a race war. Just listen to Obama speak, Holder’s actions and the utter racialist nonsense spoken too freely by our Fourth Estate( and fifth column)
The DOJ CRS (Community Relations Service) announced a meeting with local law enforcement, to be held on July 9th, to advise law enforcement and community leaders upon how to respond to the Zimmerman verdict. (Refer to the Conservative Tree House.)
This indicates that Judge Nelson’s refusal to give a directed verdict of acquittal, was already known to the CRS, long before Mark O’Mara presented his case for such.
Judge Nelson’s extraordinary extreme bias towards the prosecution and against the defence is undoubtedly firmly in accordance with the wishes of the CRS.
Judge Nelson has refused to admit evidence, whose extreme relevance is to the case is obvious regarding the toxicology analysis performed upon Trayvon Martin, at his autopsy, as well as the contents of his cell-phone, which included much material, which indicates that he was involved in drugs, MMA fighting and was attempting to obtain a hand-gun.
Judge Nelson’s biased behavior may be exacerbated by external influence, since the CRS is clearly involved.
If Trayvon Martin’s prior criminality was exposed in court, then the corruption within the Miami Dade Schools Police Department would be exposed, also. (Refer to the Conservative Tree House.)
In Florida, there is a program whereby black students who are discovered committing crimes are protected by false recording and subjected to mental health and school discipline, rather than the juvenile correction system.
This permits a substantial reduction in the number of arrests of young black males.
There is no reduction in the number of crimes which these young black males commit, but through false recording, there is a reduction in the number of recorded crimes.
Trayvon Martin, may have been alive today, if he had received the attention which his previous actual crimes had merited. Instead, his actions were falsely recorded and he was left to continue upon a very self-destructive path.
The jury selection process was interfered with. (Refer to the Conservative Tree House.)
It seems that the jury pool was pre-filtered because the probability of obtaining 500 potential jurors, with the demographic breakdown, which was obtained, by chance alone, is extremely low and therefore most likely resulted from human intervention.
There is substantial evidence that the prosecution has engaged in witness tampering and has knowingly used testimony from people whom they knew were committing perjury.
A female judge and an all-female jury. I’ve never heard of such a thing.
Whatever happened to “a jury of your peers”?
Yes, I have a sinking feeling that a conviction is pre-ordained.
Then what? Self-defense is outlawed, as it already is in England? Or only for whites?
I keep wondering why Florida Law apparently permits (or requires?) a jury of 6 in trials of felonies as serious as second degree murder.
Trayvon’s propensity for violence is relevant to understanding the events. Trayvon’s drug status is also important. Most people when they withdraw from chronic marijuana use have a couple of days when they are very irritable, go around with a chip on their shoulder. Just what happened to Trayvon. There was a little marijuana in hais system consistent with not using it for a couple of days.
If Trayvon had maintained his chronic high he would have been too mellow to attack Zimmerman.
Trayvon’s mother is involved in a cover up of her deficient mothering and lies about the widely circulated photo of a much younger Trayvon. They said the photo was only 6-9 months old. LOL
And where was Trayvon in the 2 minutes where he disappeared from view? No way Zimmerman
could have caught him. Why didn’t the kid just go home?
Zimmerman took enough of a beating to be afraid for his life. Being on the bottom in a ground pound is almost defenseless and very vulnerable. In a match he could have yielded. One good pound of his head into the concrete is enough to kill or leave him a vegetable.
“On the other hand, if the jury acquits this lessens the charge of the Sharpton’s and Jackson’s that the system is rigged against blacks.”
Not quite. Sharpton etc can always argue that if it wasn’t for their support, pressure, and the rallying of the community, the whities would not have convicted for justice.
Justice as defined by black power at least.
There are a couple of Leftist factions at work.
1. The direct overseers of the black community, like Jackson, who because they are black easily deceive the community into thinking their white Democrat masters can’t telling them what to do.
2. Lawyers who become judges who then work as bureaucrats in the justice department. Some lawyers make money through law suits (taking a 70% cut of 5 million in damages), but these lawyers are different. They make their careers based upon prosecuting.
3. Police who at the upper levels want to get rid of crime not by prosecuting them or jailing them, but by managing the records (Enron) to make it appear like crime is going down. In reality, most of police funding and training is designed for a union political benefit. To hide this from their union police members, propaganda about hunting humans is expressed and used.
4. The media contributes its vast influence over many sectors of society.
Defeating the Leftist alliance’s power requires crushing a super majority of these factions or all of them combined. Yet Americans are having difficulties even smacking one faction in the head… such is the distance between victory and defeat.
}}} I keep wondering why Florida Law apparently permits (or requires?) a jury of 6 in trials of felonies as serious as second degree murder.
I’ve been asking this question as well…
Apparently some idiot allowed FL legislature to pass law that reduces juries to six. >:-/
Must’ve been the same bunch that passed the Pig Protection Amendment.
There are so many things wrong with this trial:
1) The biased judge who would not allow the jury to hear critical evidence such as Trayvon’s 3 school suspensions, use of drugs, pictures of himself smoking pot, pictures of guns, texts about his desire to own a gun, texts bragging about his fighting ability, and the list goes on.
2) only 6 people on a jury
3) an all female jury who will look at Trayvon as a son, not as a gangster wannabe that they wouldn’t want their own child in a classroom with.
4) an all female jury who will more likely be scared for their lives by dangerous radical Trayvon supporters if they acquit.
I am totally disgusted that there is even a possibility that Zimmerman will be found guilty of anything. I have a feeling I will be angered and disappointed in our judicial system all over again like last summer with Casey Anthony.