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Snowden: none dare call it treason — 22 Comments

  1. Short form: “Provides proof the government is spying on citizens. Government charges him with spying.”

  2. “although I imagine Obama would dearly love to.”

    Nah. Obama doesn’t give one tenth of a tinker’s dam about Snowden. Doesn’t matter to the O at all.

  3. The type of charges brought may have something to do with the extradition agreement with Hong Kong. I’d personally like to see Snowden end up in Camp 14.

  4. vanderleun:

    Are you kidding me? I completely disagree with your reading of Obama’s psyche.

    You may mean that Obama doesn’t care about national security leaks per se all that much, and with that I heartily agree. But Obama cares about Obama, and these particular leaks left Obama with egg on his face vis a vis the left, who consider that Obama’s support of the phone records program exposes him as too Bush-like.

    Obama takes things personally, and Snowden’s actions were a defiance of Obama and exposed him to anger and ridicule from his usual supporters. That, Obama cares about, quite a bit. It’s personal.

  5. “You may mean that Obama doesn’t care about national security leaks per se all that much, and with that I heartily agree.”

    Yes, that is what I mean.

  6. Then again Obama is such a towering narcissist and such a deep and abiding psychopath it is doubtful that he cares about the feelings of his usual supporters. He knows they will be back on the O-tit soon enough and that they have no other place to go.

    Indeed, he knows they somehow love the feeling of being eaten alive by this organism.

  7. How will charging Snowden with espionage get the egg off Obama’s face with the left (and the right)? This will only reinforce the perception that the NSA surveillance was an abuse of power.

  8. Steve:

    It won’t get the egg off his face. But it will show that he means business about leaks that he himself hasn’t authorized, and perhaps discourage future ones. Inaction would encourage them.

    Although I must say that Snowden’s celebrity status, which Obama can’t do anything about, would encourage copycats (much as, I believe, Assange’s celebrity status did for Snowden).

  9. For BHO everything is deeply personal. If a gnat lands on his arugula salad he takes it personally and is ready to call in the secret service to kill the gnat. That is what makes him so dangerous. He’s not really the president, he’s the dictator in waiting.

    If not extradited, Snowden will tragically fall down a long staircase or become depressed and suffer a shotgun to the back of the head suicide

  10. Steve,

    I love how she had to get the Bush comparison into her talk. Somebody needs to do an alternative history movie about how Obama would have handled 9/11. I bet he would have put down My Pet Goat and gone to take a nap.

  11. On the scale of treason, 1 to 10:

    Snowden is a two. Maybe a one.

    Obama is an 11.

  12. Okay. If a thing is not charged, it therefore does not exist.

    On the scale of criminally or non-criminally harming the United States of America:

    Snowden is a 2. maybe a 1. Maybe a negative 10 in that he really helped the country.

    Obama is an 11.

  13. Mike:

    Why would you think anyone here is implying that “if a thing is not charged, it therefore does not exist?”

    Because you were talking about Snowden committing treason, and the subject matter of this post is what offenses Snowden was charged with, I was merely pointing out he hasn’t been charged with treason, or even espionage as most people understand it, although the charges come under the Espionage Act. Nor was the charge that he criminally or non-criminally harmed the US, for that matter.

  14. …the first charge (theft) doesn’t require recipients at all. At least, that’s my reading of it, although I’m hardly an expert on the matter.

    I can tell you this much: anyone caught with classified documents (paper or digital form, such as CD or thumb drive) in his/her home has broken the law–even if the documents have been shown to no one and the person has no association whatsoever with any of “America’s enemies.” There is a strict protocol dictating how to get such documents from a locked safe, use them for a time, and then return them to a safe. Any deviation from these procedures (such as taking them home without special permission to do so) is a crime.

  15. Gee, I wonder if Wikileaks, Ellsberg’s group or any of the other so-called “Truth-Telling” entities are helping leak information about Benghazi, IRS targeting of tea-party groups (and others), Fast and Furious, misuse of “Stimulus Package” money and various other scandals happening under King Barack’s administration.

  16. Crimes don’t affect Democrats. Or even Leftists that lack the approval of the ruling caste.

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