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  1. The 7-year age difference between the brothers is probably significant in how well assimilated they became. The younger brother was under 10 when he arrived, but the older one was in his teens and probably felt more of a stranger. He was also of an age were the macho aspects of his native culture would assert themselves. He may well have pulled his younger brother into this because of family loyalty.

  2. The Left has indeed started their tap-dancing.

    Their “father” is back in the former Soviet Union somewhere; I did not note exactly where, and I don’t care. The point is that he is not here.

    These guys were taken into highlevel US facilities, including the Boston ‘Rindge’ and Latin School (formerly the elite Boston Latin School). They were denied no opportunity, it seems. The US tried to assimilate them, but they would not assimilate with the USA. Assimilation, it must be said, has not worked; Diversity drives us, from our immigration policy on up. And we are all the losers.

    Despite the media spin, they were loners who did not assimilate. So, Blooey, we pay, for our refusal to set even entrance Standards. The Pres. of Chechnya is now on record as blaming us for our failures toward the perpetrators.

    Insanity.

  3. Neo says “Other cities may be familiar with enormous shootouts and SWAT teams, but Boston really is a relatively sleepy city”

    Nope. This is unprecedented.

    Figure the massive economic costs of this large-area shutdown. Not the direct costs of the cops, but the indirect, lost productivety, costs.

  4. The MSM has only scratched the surface on the lives of these brothers. School and athletics are just the surface, and comments from acquaintances are not that helpful. It will be interesting to see how much they uncover and actually report, such as who raised them, who their close friends are, where they spent their spare time, etc. Their social media accounts, such as YouTube and Facebook. seem to provide a much more detailed view of who these terrorists are/were.

  5. Don Carlos: I was thinking of events like this in LA, for example.

    Of course, it is not the same. But Boston hasn’t even experienced that level of violence. And now this.

  6. Don Carlos: It was Cambridge Rindge and Latin, not Boston, and it’s a regular high school.

  7. I was reading the Via Media post on this and one of the commenters mentioned John Updike’s book Terrorist. As I checked it out at Amazon, I realized that Obama had gone through some of the same things as Updike’s main character: namely disrupted family, idealized missing father, mentor(s) that provide an ideological base as a substitute for more normal family ties. I’m not saying that Obama is equal to a terrorist, but I do think that these factors could play a role in how the Boston bombers were formed.

  8. Aha. So not the Boston Latin pvt. I wondered at the name, since my mom used to live in Rindge, NH.

  9. expat: the trouble is that Updike’s was fiction. I am wary of drawing large conclusions from fiction, no matter how well-researched. The truths you cite, e.g. disrupted family, are hardly revelatory and were well-known to Updike, who, if truth be told, is not one of my favorites.

  10. Don Carlos,

    Since I haven’t read Terrorist, I wasn’t trying to make too much of Updike’s plot. It simply made me think of all the discussions going on today about boys needing a father in the home as a role model and how this is probably more true of boys in the middle of 2 cultures. I also think it is very important for the family to allow the kids to integrate into the new culture, which doesn’t mean that have to give up all of the parents’ culture. The boy who is made to feel like a failure in both worlds is more likely to need to prove himself.

    In some ways, many blacks are in the same situation because they are accused of acting white or selling out if they do well in school. But if they don’t learn they are doomed to a crappy life.

  11. Tamerlan Tsarnaev had a first name associated with Tamerlane, a use of terror.

    When Isfahan surrendered to Timur in 1387, he treated it with relative mercy as he normally did with cities that surrendered. However, after the city revolted against Timur’s taxes by killing the tax collectors and some of Timur’s soldiers Timur ordered the massacre of the city’s citizens with the death toll reckoned at between 100,000 and 200,000.[50] An eye-witness counted more than 28 towers constructed of about 1,500 heads each.[51] This has been described as a “systematic use of terror against towns…an integral element of Tamerlane’s strategic element” which he viewed as preventing bloodshed by discouraging resistance. His massacres were selective and he spared the artistic and technical (e.g. engineers) elites

    Interesting history for that name.

    Attila is a first name found in Hungary and in Turkey.

  12. expat: “The boy who is made to feel like a failure in both worlds is more likely to need to prove himself.”
    An interesting thought/observation. Does that imply that blacks who attempt to shift whiteward are dissed by blacks, rejected by whites since they are black and ?suspect, will be more driven to ‘prove themselves’? In good ways, or bad? Which?

  13. Well, I think the gangs keep a pretty tight hold over their neighborhoods. And I’ve read that boys who do OK in school up to a certain age stop trying when they hit middle and high school. The group seems to fill in to provide a self image when the family has failed to do so. It’s a circular thing. The race baiters and gang members tell him the cards are stacked against him.

    I think that some boys who are caught between two worlds with rigid families tucked away in a different culture might turn to something they see a macho. I remember a report (I believe in the NYT magazine) about a young Morocan who joined AQ in Afghanistan. He had had a girlfriend who was not approved by the family. They wanted him to marry a cousin. So he joined the jihad to escape.

    Some of these tribal societies don’t treat their kids as individuals, but as property. A turkish-born German sociologist reported on her studies of Turks in German youth incarceration centers. She asked one boy how it was being there, and he responded, “Not too bad. It’s the first time anyone has ever paid any attention to me.”

  14. Like Don Carlos I have wondered at the total cost of all of this. The loss of talent and productivity of those who died. The cost of time and rehabilitation to those seriously injured. The medical cost for all of the direct victims and their families. The cost for increased police protection by first responders at Boston and around the nation. The loss of events to avoid a repeat. The cost to local businesses by closing or reduced clientele.

    Less quantifiable but no less important is the loss of will and increased divisiveness across the nation. We already are being subjected to the song of the apologist on the left.

  15. Muslim immigrants are just plain bad economics, bad politics and by persisting in this bent the multicultural crowd is accelerating an all out religious war that will entirely eclipse all world wars combined.

    The road to war is paved with optimism.

  16. So I have 3 choices of who is warring on the US at this moment.

    1. Muslims who hate the US.

    2. Leftists that hate the US.

    3. Right wing militias that are behind the assassinations and bombings in the US.

    Which one should I pick?

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