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  1. “If there is anything that we have learned for sure, IT IS THAT WEAKNESS IS PROVOCATIVE.”

    Sec’y of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

  2. The story I read said there were EIGHT U.S. Commandos, teamed with Libyan security. It also said that when the arrived at the alleged safe house, accurately fired mortar rounds started raining down.

    So, it was a tiny force; dependent on Libyan support; and the location of the safe house may have been compromised. Compromised by whom? I would first suspect sources within the Libyan security force.

    By the way, the Libyan security apparatus is a mish mash of “friendly” militias.

    Just read an interesting question. Valerie Jarrett has Secret Service protection, even on vacation; the U.S. Ambassador in Libya was depending on a few contract security people. Why?

  3. …further confirmation that this had absolutely nothing to do with some stupid Youtube pos movie “inflaming” the situation.

    IOW, an Al Qaeda “order-a-mob” staged event to cover for a terrorist hit on the Libyan diplomatic mission.

    Payback …which the feckless administration apparently didn’t seem to have prepared for.

    And the quisling media? – crickets

    …oh jeezus: just saw this on Drudge.

    Cluster fark.

  4. @neo “I fervently hope that Obama’s number of terms will come to resemble Carter’s, as well.

    From your post to G-d’s ears.

  5. nah.. no carter redo.. those hostages survived for a long time…

    on another VERY important note:

    REPORT: Marines not permitted live ammo at embassy in Egypt…

    Marine blogs say U.S. embassy did not authorize service members to carry ammo

    http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/

    U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

    Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.”

    and THAT answers my question as to WHO ordered what… AND as i said from the first post – SOMEBODY ordered it as the military don’t work any other way but protocol, and orders… initiative kicks in when that breaks down (ergo my point below as to orders to stand down and why).

    ie. they looked like guards, but they weren’t guards, they were Potemkin guards.

    AND to avoid the horror in the news of MSG soldiers killed after going on a bloody rampage hand to hand to try to stop people till they were killed, they were ordered to stand down…

    also from the article:

    While Marines are typically relied on to defend U.S. territory abroad, such as embassies, these reports indicate that the Obama administration was relying on Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-backed government to ensure American security, a move observers are questioning as violence in Cairo continues to rage.

  6. 1 term of BHO is the equivalent of 4 terms of Carter in terms of the damage done. Carter was a failure. BHO is a catastrophe of epic proportions.

  7. oh… at the end of the article is the denial.

    A Marine spokesperson at the Pentagon denied the Free Beacon’s report in a statement to Fox News.

    Pentagon Lt. Col. Chris Hughes told the outlet: “The ambassador and RSO (Regional Security Officer) have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. No restrictions on weapons or weapons status have been imposed. This information comes from the Det Commander at AMEMB (American Embassy) Cairo.”

    This is a canned answer and its more in terms of letting the world know that the other embassies and such no longer have tin soldiers with paper guns.

    however, he is lying in terms of this event. If he is not lying, he is implying a disgrace of the corps.

    however if you read CAREFULLY, he is not denying that someone ordered them to stand down and not respond or rescue the ambassador.

    what he is saying is that the weapons were loaded… and is silent as to why they did not act.

    Also, if there were no MSG officers there, it would be easier to deny the unloaded weapons point by saying people who are not there don’t have weapons to load.

    so, you pick which you like:

    they had unloaded weapons and were ordered to stand down and not defend…

    they had loaded weapons and were ordered to stand down…

    they had weapons (loaded or not), and were not ordered to stand down, and shirked their duty and not do anything, a disgrace to the corps, and the elite MSG. (kind of like a secret service man hiding when he hears gun shots).

    I must point out that not having ammunition is not enough to stop them from engaging. if their orders are to protect, you can take away everything and leave them naked and they will protect. And doing that is nothing compared to what some of them have done or even said during such incidents.

    Hollyweird would make a fortune mining those stories and action… (i am still waiting for the definitive movie that really tells the story of Chosin. but i aint holding my breath).

    [by the way, in the other thread is the comment on the part of the article that lays out protocol, chain of command and so on – something fox did not do when they wrote that sentence that was quoted]

  8. Glen Reynolds commented more than two years ago that Carter Act II was the best case scenario with Obama. Prescient wasn’t he?

  9. Carters level of damage was more limited because he operated in the past where the demographics were different and the people were less conditioned to not notice the abnormal for what it was. without a war, he couldn’t do as much as what someone else could do with all the welfare, and group support, the refined unions, and so on.

    Obama has no worries about a “greatest generation” to call him out. he barely has the baby boomers. last year for them was 64.. that puts the tail at 48-49…15 years shy of retirement age…

    77.3 million Americans were born in this group..
    the top and start of that was 1946…
    By the end of the 1940s
    about 32 million babies had been born
    That 32 million is 63-66 years
    To save space, most will be gone in 15 years
    the other half has another 15

    in 30 years… 77 out of 223 million will disappear.
    that 223 million, according to wiki has been in lower than replacement birth rate for a long time.

    1972 2.01
    declined every year to 76 at 1.74
    it barely climbed back to 2.01 in 1983

    after that it went up… but it did so because of

    The Refugee Act of 1980. Systematizes refugee process and codifies asylum status. Ten million permanent immigrants are admitted legally to the United States. Enacted in response to vietnamese and Cuban refugee crisis.

    10 million came in, and had lots of babies in the first two years.. and this hid the decline of the other. unless they spoon fed a breakdown of each group and a record.. people wouldnt get a clue… (still dont even if you spell it out).

    The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 allows most illegal aliens who have reside in the U.S. continuously since January 1 of 1982

    despite all that and more…
    the rate never went past 2.08 for all

    if the rate was less than 2 before all the immigrant floods, how low is it now?

    low enough that this year, we are informed on the home page of the census, that the 233 million are having fewer babies than the the 85 million others.

    That would put the birth rate of the 233 below 1…
    and the 85 at around 3

    So thats why the dems are representing who they are and churning up the hate.

    just as the welfare Rubicon and unemployment gets them past the 55% mark and self interest over freedom kicks in…

    when the demographic Rubicon gets crossed, the remainder will be much like the Jewish people in the world and will include them. after all, if the huge section shrinks, and they are inside it making up that demographic, what is happening to them?

    the dems in the past favored whites as they were the dominant number… in the near future, the oppressed minority will be the hateful majority. they already have the power to change the nature of the state and collect up lots of perks…

    Under ObamaCare, if a medical or dental school wants to increase its chances of receiving many different kinds of grants and contracts from the federal government, it should “have a record of training individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups” or “from underrepresented minorities.” This is because ObamaCare requires the secretary of health and human services to give priority to the entities that have demonstrated such a record in the awarding of these grants and contracts to medical and dental schools and other entities.

    ObamaCare does not state what would qualify as a “record” of such training, so we can expect medical and dental schools and the other entities to do whatever they think they can get away with to train as many “individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups” or “from underrepresented minorities” as necessary to have a better “record” in this regard than their competitors. ObamaCare creates a significant financial incentive for medical and dental schools and other entities to lower admission standards for “individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups” or “from underrepresented minorities” if that is what it takes to have the winning “record” of such training.

    too bad if you happen to be in the demographic going out. eh? but from what i hear, that’s in obamacare too, with rationing along the above lines, and palliative care to hasten your demise…(as they report in the UK 135,000 go that way a year).

    so Obama and carter have completely different demographics and education levels.

    by the way… its interesting that people think that the event horizon hasn’t passed, despite the fact that they cant stop the state from telling them what size sodas they can drink.

    if ya cant stop them from doing that, you cant stop them from anything really… and that is just a symbol of hundreds of such that cant be stopped.

    (and the lovely docs at nature are talking about using 100% means of crowd control making all forms of protest forever null thanks to pharma and social intervention being normalized)

    by the way, ever realize that under obamacare, conditions like slow schizophrenia as in the soviet union are possible? the state can dictate medicine, why not dictate all right wingers are a disease on the people? or maybe the selected scape goats.

    anyone other than i realize we are only an idea and a signature away from that, and that too cant be stopped either?

    [if you need another example a bit stronger than soda, try open borders in violation of laws… ]

    whose left to protest? ex soviets who can read the signs and would prefer to start the new order with clean records?

  10. Jimmy Carter Corrects Obama
    http://nation.foxnews.com/jimmy-carter/2012/09/13/jimmy-carter-corrects-obama

    Carter: “Egypt is an ally of the US, we know Egypt well.”

    President Obama had earlier stated during an interview: Obama: ‘Ya know, I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we do not consider them an enemy. ‘

    Carter went on to Talk about Egypt’s new President , Carter says he knows him well and has met with him. Carter said Egypt’s president is dedicated to peace and truly a democratic government.

  11. “Glen Reynolds commented more than two years ago that Carter Act II was the best case scenario with Obama. Prescient wasn’t he?”

    In a bit of immodesty, I’ll quote myself from September 2008 on this blog:

    I’m honestly not sure if Obama understands, in his heart of hearts, the difference between being a legislator and being a president, i.e. the difference between talking and leading.

    (Are we all ready for Jimmy Carter — Round 2?)

  12. That link is fascinating kcom. Sergey is awesome and FredHJr was magnificent.

    From one of the comments from FredHJr:

    In a way, I hope Obonga does win this election so that his aspirations for Euro style socialism can be tried and seen to be the failure that it always has been. Only then, I think, will the Left in the United States finally be discredited and we can begin to rebuild the nation’s economy and its defensive/deterrence posture. That way the KosKiddies and their cohorts can be given the big rejection from voters who learned a lesson.

  13. “In a way, I hope Obonga does win this election so that his aspirations for Euro style socialism can be tried and seen to be the failure that it always has been. Only then, I think, will the Left in the United States finally be discredited.. ”

    Channeling foxmarks?

  14. Was Fred including in his calculations that the media would attempt to define black as white, up as down, left as right? And that such attempt “appears” to have some positive effect. I put the word “appears” in quotes because this latest debacle may very well brand the media for what it is to the population at large. Romney will be vindicated, the press discredited, and Obama, that traitor, that foul smelling dhimmi, will not be re-elected.

    http://www.sacredbible.org/catholic/OT-06_Joshua.htm

    Be strengthened and be steadfast. For you shall divide by lot, to this people, the land about which I swore to their fathers that I would deliver it to them. Therefore, be strengthened and be very steadfast, so that you may observe and accomplish the entire law, which Moses, my servant, instructed to you. You may not turn aside from it to the right, nor to the left. So may you understand all that you should do.

    I’m going to put my faith and prediction along with Fred’s. He might have at this point noted the commandment to the Israelites in the book of Joshua not to fear.

    Then the Lord said to Joshua: “You should not fear, and you should not dread. Take with you the entire multitude of fighters, and rising up, ascend to the town of Ai. Behold, I have delivered into your hand its king and people, and the city and the land.

    And the Lord said to Joshua: “You should not fear them. For I have delivered them into your hands. None of them will be able to withstand you.”

    And the Lord said to Joshua: “You should not fear them. For tomorrow, at this same hour, I will deliver all these to be wounded in the sight of Israel. You will hamstring their horses, and you will burn their chariots with fire.”

  15. Artie(7:33pm)..Thank you for that link to The Useless One’s(Jimmah)statement about the Muslim Brotherhood’s Egytian president. I saw it on Drudge and read it…My God, Carter+Obamax100 would not equal the intelligence of a sleeping Downs Child.

  16. “Died of smoke inhalation” my ass.

    Maetenloch at Ace embedded a small version of the terrible photos that Drudge had on the front page yesterday: http://minx.cc/?post=332860 If you can stomach it, click on it when you get there to enlarge it and see for yourself.

    Chris Stevens being dragged through the streets, wounded and dying, by the mob. Why should we see such things? The least we can do is be a cloud of witnesses to our man’s death. And refute the lies emanating from our “leaders” and the lying Libyans.

  17. Take two:

    You – all of “you” – really should take a few minutes to read Glick this morning: The Reign of the Imagination.

    The money quote:

    As for the attack in Libya, it apparently came as no surprise to some US officials on the ground. In an online posting the night before he was killed, US Foreign Service information management officer Sean Smith warned of the impending strike. Smith wrote, “Assuming we don’t die tonight. We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.”

    Holy Mary Mother of Jesus.

    Obama should be impeached for criminal negligence in the deaths of these people.

    With President Barack Obama’s inauguration, the imaginary world inhabited by the American foreign policy elite shifted again. Obama and his advisers agree that jihadist Islam is the predominant force in the Muslim world. But in their imaginary world, jihadist Islam is a good thing for America.

    …It is impossible to know the thoughts that crossed Stevens’ mind as he lay dying in Benghazi. But what is clear enough is that as long as imagination reigns supreme, freedom will be imperiled.

    Read it all: the context is important.

  18. That September 2008 thread is astonishing. A person could spend a month reading it, thinking about it, following the links, thinking more. What a remarkable place this blog is. And how I miss FredHJr.

  19. Both Libya and Egypt are known war zones. They are nations undergoing comprehensive transitions in leadership and governing philosophies, which are not favorable to an American presence or interests. There is no legitimate excuse for not predicting the invasion of sovereign American territory or the murder of American citizens. Any reasonably minded individual would consider taking extraordinary precautionary measures to protect life and property.

  20. Artfldgr:

    Exactly. Americans are voluntarily embracing behaviors (through normalization or cultural corruption) which constitute evolutionary dysfunction. As they exhibit a preference for dreams of instant gratification, they are willfully committing evolutionary suicide with each succeeding generation. The Democrats have demonstrated that they are more than happy to facilitate this mass psychosis, from conception to grave.

    So, are Democrats merely acknowledging and reacting to an unmanageable situation or was their philosophy and policies the cause of this genocide? Also, as this mass suicide is a voluntary action, can it be considered a true genocide? After all, they are merely exploiting people’s baser appetites, by offering them the physical, material, and ego gratification which they so adamantly demand.

  21. Curtis,

    your post opened up the opportunity for something i have been thinking for a bit, but have absolutely nothing to give as proof except wishful thinking. and as you know, i dont tend to do that.

    there is a slight chance, though again, no way to know, that the other state organs have been working to save things.

    while its easy for Obama and company to create fertile situations for things, its also easy for certain shadow groups in our state to cause them to pop.

    if you were sworn to the Constitution, and you took that seriously, then how would you cause a move back from the brink?

    the left hates the spy organs… and the right thinks they serve the left… (and seems so if you know history)…

    but once on the road from 68…
    which would be easier, constant opposition, and a forever game of ideological stalemate?

    or give them enough rope?

    i would love to think that this is all give them enough rope and let them hang themselves when they fall over the brink when we come close.

    after all, those state organs more than anyone should know and realize that there can be no merger that they would benefit from.

    the new owners would never let them remain any more than the OWS would remain, the feminists, and so on.. those are the scaffolding you use to build the new thing, when done, you dispose of that. that way, there is no scaffolding to remodel back

    IF the US got addicted to socialism in 1968 and beyond, how do you cure such an addiction.

    after all, everyone knows that serious addicts do not generally stop before they reach the bottom and there is no more room for games.

    how do you cure the young and others who became addicted to the coolness of communism?

    You let them have enough of it they run the other way. though that is fraught with a lot of problems. yet, it has a certain appeal to the wishful.

    without what just happened, there was no way to argue what will happen if these policies expand and keep going. they may be feminist pc, but they are toxic (which is the point)

    so.. how do you convince people that think poison is ambrosia? (you try to tell a feminist or someone that believes that their liberation is toxic and see what happens)

    you cant.. the whole reason that they are willing to believe it is that they don’t have the operational knowlege to work out that issue.

    so they shop for the message they like.

    about all you can do is let them have the poison, let them go barren and exterminate themselves, and then try to pick up the pieces.

    this happening was them drinking the poison of their policies. you cant argue that paper tigers with unloads weapons is crazy. they will say, how do the others know? and you cant convince them that they will find out the second they try…

    all you can do is bow back. let them have their way. do not push… and then accept the lesson and the damage that comes.

    and this is the wishful thought that i have in the back of my head i rarely disgorge. as there is no there there.

    while its a perfectly rational scenario, there is absolutely no way to know, guess, or even a clue… but doesn’t that always fit that side of the business? even the men inside it get all turned about and confused (See Jesus Angleton’s story)

    Truth is..
    we are beyond saving by ourselves.
    we cant even stop them from telling us what to eat, or even using drones to spy on their own people.

    we have already lost..
    what we HAD Before Obama was that the power bases were not yet lost. but his bribe or die financial actions in the crisis and after showed you either get with gliechshaltung, or your a problem.

    now i fear the only hope are the shadow orgs that can cause the best plans of those people to blow up in their face…

    does Tavistock work for the British people, or for the queen, or for the collective?

    does the CIA, NSA, etc… work for the American people, the president, or some other power?

    no analysis is complete without including them, and the problem is that to include them, makes analysis messy. ergo people ignore it, makes the analysis seem nice and neat and without any wild cards that can pop up. the second you make it complete by adding them, you no longer have a solid analysis.

    as i said before, we were leaving them out of most discussions and analysis, and the past two days, should be an eye opener that OTHER STATES and agencies have a dog in this fight, and their shadow agencies are in the game too.

    were did the weapons come from?
    who gave them expertise and training?
    who backs AQ and feeds them info?
    and so on and so on….

    the answers there are well known, but not by the general public who doesn’t even think those agencies are on the peoples side.

    we dont know that side, and never will

    (maybe some of the young here might, as they may live long enough that the records don’t matter to anyone alive)

    they may not have a lot of overt power, but they have a lot of fulcrum power… ie. they can do more with an informative phone call out of nowhere, than a congressman can do with a big law.

    it could be as easy as… accepting the pc missive, refusing to argue it, and not pass on a piece of information that they dont want to hear given the pc…

    the warnings may have had confirmations. but if the people they work for said, i don’t care.. then they have the out of being quiet and walking away, and letting the situation happen.

    more than once i have had people in my life not listen and decide that they dont want to hear, then later ask me if i knew what happened to them was goign to happen. i have to say yes… they then say, why didnt you stop me. i say, you told me not to and wouldnt listen, and thats the end of it.

    the left has a bad habit of shutting down answers they dont like… and THAT may be the key behind all of this. a simple meeting in the hall in which someone wanted to key them in on some information, and they saying, i dont have time for it, i made up my mind already and dont need it, etc.

    when the ladies of the state department decided to do the wonderbra marine trick, how hard did these others fight? did they try to explain and push? did they just be quiet and say, ok…

    we wont know, but that too makes a world of difference and its something knowledge can do without much else, just by knowing to be quiet when asked to.

    then let the fates take care of the rest…

  22. as this mass suicide is a voluntary action, can it be considered a true genocide?

    yes…

    i cant even begin to answer the one prior. who knows. the dems are not monolithic class, no group is… so any answer may fit some, but not all.

    as far as true genocide, yes.

    the problem with your understanding that is that your misusing volunteer..

    ie. a true volunteer knows what they are getting into.

    the women, believe something other than what is happening to them,and they wont listen to anyone but these others (forgetting how nasty women in high school were to each other!), and they don’t want to work out that end result (if they don’t, they can continue, if they do, then what? where do they go? what will society think of them when that becomes the reality? they would rather die than have that ego issue. (heck, when asked they say they would rather die than tive a speech in pubilc, so you figure how much worse that other thing is)

    to say they volunteered is like saying bernie madoffs customers volunteered.

    no. they were tricked, and are being tricked, and just like Madoff, they have to lose it all or die to learn…

    THAT kind of person cant be helped.. can they? they literally work harder to die than to live…

    you can see the different between my wife and the woman that lives on the ground floor. she is a feminist, she knows i am not. we dont fight, we get along well, in fact, my behavior has her questioning everything as she has been curious enough to find out where i am from with things, rather than insert the text copy they hand her. she religiously reads her feminist mags, and has followed their advice.

    on bad days you can hear her yelling on the phone two flights up… she is yelling with her mom, and you can hear that her mom is trying to advise her, and she has destroyed her life, and wont listen.

    she went the feminist way, and decided, young and lots o sex was what to marry. that didnt work out (didnt work out for the woman on the second floor either. or the woman at the corner, or three more i know)

    now, she is “past expiration”, she can offer companionship, maybe adoption, but nothing else.

    but living beings live to mate and have kids. so, her pickings on men are very small. any man who wants children, is fishing for younger. the few who arent, are the left overs.

    ie. while she was busy screwing around the serious women were playing musical chairs.

    the first ones to select well and marry, grabbed he best. if they are good, they don’t separate. THAT is off market. the more time passes the less quality you get.

    this even more so if the point wasn’t done by good living and that was their wish in full knowing. its rarely that. that is usually what they try to convince themselves of ex post facto.

    she dates, but they are divorcees, or never married with issues… and so on. and of course, she has now, due to this neurotic life, and failing living it (by intent of those telling her), she sits most evenings, hair mussed a bit, drunk, smoking a cigarette alone at the window watching the night fall till tired, then to sleep.

    if you really care for women and people, you cant see that, and not have compassion and anger at the people that advised her.

    her life didnt have to be that way at all.
    and all it took were a few bad choices and a pc latch to prevent her from deviating from that.

    meanwhile, she has complimented me endlessly, with phrases like. “i know your anti feminist, but your wife has more freedom than any woman i know”

    yeah.. my wife is a person, i am not her keeper… she is not huring me following the advice in the magazines

    Which the wack job is now giving to my wife to read… and of course, its causing problems. So in a few years i may be divorced and homeless again on the same old conveyor belt… because the advice and such in those things.

    but well see.. she likes the people magazines and celebrity stuff…

    and i asked her. why read that crap and look at those pictures, when you can grab your camera, and you and i can go to the party ourselves and take pictures? she takes my advice on that, since i am the guy that took pictures for those mags and i keep asking her. why do you want to read about broken dysfunctional people whose lives are in painful turmoil and who could care less about you than everything?

    anyway.
    it boils down to knowing

    you cant truly volunteer without knowing what your getting into…

    and you cant volunteer unless you can say no… otherwise its not volunteering.

    they cant say no, as that would be to go against the culture (while they pretend to go agasinst the culture as everyone is doing it!)

    its sad really..
    and even sadder thinking that the ones that this has the most effect on are the smartest ones.

    women are the intelligence reserve in humans as a species. when they work, or cant select their mates (or who selects is indiscriminate), the progress of intelligence mills around and drops.

    a woman who is a feminist and in college/career with a 125 IQ is earning to pay for a woman with 5 kids of low IQ…

    it doesn’t take a genius to see that over time the whole of the society average intelligence goes down. (and the remainder now will score equally on tests with theo ther underperformed who will appear to do better. ie. cooking hte books demographically)
    [edited for length by n-n]

  23. and if you caught the term in the last post, here is a bit of the problems (one thing to note, when one does this, one often becomes the male confidant and they then dump they way they would with a girlfriend, but with you its safer).

    from a womans site:

    3 Major Pitfalls Of Being An Intellectual Whore

    I’m guilty of pursuing a relationship strictly for mental stimulation! He respects my mind, clearly cares about my opinion, and wants to know exactly what I’m thinking.

    So, what’s my problem?

    1. Sometimes Girls Just Wanna Have Fun
    Sure, it’s awesome that he’s not always staring at my tits or trying to bed me every chance he gets. Heck, I can be drunk as a skunk and practically throwing myself at him, but he’ll continue carrying on about his latest business venture and inquiring about my perspective from a drunken angle. Dude! I’m not in the mood right now, leave me alone!!

    2. All For Me And None For You
    He takes all of the credit. It’s like Inception. I planted it there. I swear! He walks around toting my ideas as if he were the King of the jungle and there was none before him. When I happen to remind him of its origin, he all of a sudden gets selective memory and claims that he thought the same thing long before I ever mentioned it. How convenient.

    3. Mind-F*cking Gets Damn Tiring
    Sex can be tiring too but it relieves and relaxes you at the same time. Mind-sexing on the other hand, can end up being so stressful! Sometimes, when you debate and change topics, counter-debate and play devil’s advocate over and over again–your brain hurts.

    [and reading the male perspective]

    In 1978 the great Woody Allen published a book called Getting Even. In it was a story called “The Whore of Mensa.” It was about men who were dating beautiful but stupid women, and had to hire whores to talk to them about intellectual topics. Although the term is not used in the story, I’ve always thought of that as an “intellectual whore.” So this planted the seed of the term.

    Later in life I started encountering a certain breed of woman. To begin with they never wanted to sleep with me. Now, this by itself is okay–not all women will want to sleep with me. However, this particular breed wanted to have me around to talk to and to make them laugh, because I was so “entertaining” and “funny.” Some of them went so far as to describe our relationship as that of “friends”, and a few even had the audacity to talk to me about problems they had with other guys.

    Later I realized what had been happening. I was being used for their amusement and entertainment while they were busy fucking outlaw bikers. Of course they weren’t interested in me sexually; they were too busy with guys with forearm tattoos. But apparently they still needed some intellectual stimulation. That’s when they would call me with an opening line like “Tell me something interesting.” or some other not-to-subtle line. I recalled the term intellectual whore and applied it to this situation. These women had made me into their intellectual whore. Since then I have dedicated a large part of my life to avoiding this trap, and the various bitches that try to put you in it.

    In short, it does not refer to a “smart slut” as it were, but rather to males who are kept around by women for their mental entertainment. These men usually want to sleep with these women who usually consider these men friends.

    [and lastly, a bit on ladder theory. fe-men don’t like it, and women hate it. which means it pegs them real good, but dont match what they think about themselves]

    http://www.laddertheory.com/

    The first thing to notice here is that a woman has not one ,but two ladders. This is because in addition the normal ladder, a woman also has a friends ladder. The friends ladder is where a woman puts guys that she considers “just friends”. More to the point where she puts guys who don’t get to have sex with her.

    The problem arises because a woman never lets a guy know which ladder he is on. Obviously there is a huge difference, or gap between these two ladders. It is in this gap that kisses of death are delivered and intellectual whores are made. All a man can do is “go for it” and make a move on a girl; ask her out, try to kiss her, write her a love note or whatever. If he’s on the good ladder fine. If he is on the friends ladder this is a case of ladder jumping. The man is trying to jump the gap from the friends ladder to the real ladder. The girl has two choices at this point: she can let him on the ladder and all is well, or, more likely, she can kick him in the head, and off the ladder. If you look you’ll see that below the ladder is the Abyss(what was it Nietzsche said about a man being on a rope stretched over an Abyss?….well it’s worse than he thought; there is no rope.) So the man falls into the Abyss. The Abyss isn’t really as bad as it sounds. Mostly it’s a period of self-loathing, embarrassment, and of course utter awkwardness with the girl in question if they are talking at all.

    what? did you think that only women worked things out? men invented science and that methodology, it makes us effective in the world…

    however the men work it out to be right, women work it for ideology to be write (and get state funding and publish). 🙂

    the bottom line for me was i ended up close friends with the women i would meet and want to date. over time, they would dump. and i got to hear why, what, how, etc..they would ask me questions, but NEVER EVER EVER listen, as there was always a counter argument they grew up with in magazine, girlfriend, etc.

    it was better than being alone, and i got to go out and learn to dance, and so on…

    but consistently, they were so unstimulated in their lives that they would pick guys that any guy could see was going to do her bad… but THATS exciting… and the wack job makes her worry about her relationship and so on… the BORING guy, doesnt… she knows he will be there, evne if she kicks him

    soooo. Chinese women who like that, and want to be loved and have a very romantic male female kind of view… are poaching the men as fast as immigration can let them in and they can. they see nice men, loving, wanting to have families and a good life…

    western women even if not feminist, still are without knowing it as their choices will reinforce each other.

    if you wonder why this dont work with men, its easy.
    men learned that men cant trust men

    women are stupid, they believe they can trust all other women.. if they didn’t, the movements games wouldn’t work either.

  24. GREAT… you just killed the other..

    how about dividing them into two posts rather than killing it… the person asking now wont see my nice thanks. the fact that the woman i talked about makes me so sad, and all the points that keep me from being a jerk.

    i cant reconstruct it… i didn’t save it, as i never know when your going to leave it, or kill it.

    it peeves me as i am not immortal, i wont live forever, and throwing away an hour of my life by surprise i could have done something else in if i only knew i was throwing hours of my live away with absolutely nothing for it. (and even taking a chance of being fired from my job too!)

    in the years you do that, you realize that you have thrown away a few days of my life? an hour here, and hour there… 24 times, and thats a day.

    does it matter?
    i guess not… since that, and my office, and other things make it clear that the whole of it should be in the trash too. after all, i will never lose my aspergers, and so i will always have my life and valuable time discarded if i participate.

    which is why we tend to isolate and not participate.

    finding your live in the trash tends to blow away your ego, and slam you. and i write longer when i am in a good mood and can think better.

    now its a crap start to the weekend, as that part of my life is in the trash wasted…

    excuse me while i go watch a movie or something.
    i dont have that much life to piss away and risk being punished for taking the time trashed from something else.

    catch ya later.

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