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  1. You know there have been many instances of women putting the hit on men in high positions to further their careers and I’m not talking about the liberals in Hollywood and the casting couch. There have been women in Real Estate and other forms of commisioned sales, registered Republicans who have sealed the deal in just such a manner. Perhaps we have a case with Ms. Bialek where she may have been the agressor think she would “Bop” her way to the top only to be turned down? Whats old saying about “A woman scorned”?

  2. Well…
    one would have to know what kind of precidence is out there for some person to latch on to things and to think thye would have a shot.

    for instance, whether or not the child is genetically the child of the male is generally irrelevant (But would not apply here).

    and ONLY in feminist world would a child born of statutory rape be awarded to the rapists with support from the victim, but guess what? we live in feminist world…

    In County of San Luis Obispo v. Nathaniel J., the California Court of Appeals stated that although a 15 year old boy who was
    seduced by a 34 year old woman, was a victim of the 34 year old (she was prosecuted for statutory rape), the 15 year old
    father is obligated to pay child support to the child.
    The 34 year old mother was prosecuted and convicted of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor. According to the criminal
    court, the 15 year old was a victim. The willingness or lack of willingness of a 15 year old having intercourse with a 34 year old,
    was not an issue. Statutory rape is statutory rape with those age differences.
    The father admitted paternity. The courts switched over to the family law component. There, the same District Attorney’s office
    which said he was a victim of statutory rape, contended that the new born child should not become a further victim by allowing
    a parent (15 year old) to avoid the responsibility of supporting the child when and as he is able. Father’s attorney argued that
    the California Constitution states that “all persons who suffer losses as a result of criminal activity shall have the right to
    restitution from the persons convicted of the crime for losses they suffer.”
    The clincher for the court, as it turned out, was that the 15 year old admitted that he was a willing participant in the intercourse.
    Although not relevant for the criminal action against the mother, the court found that the willingness of the father did allow them
    to differentiate between a minor who has been the victim of willing statutory rape and one who was not a willing participant.
    There is also a strong history of case law precedents in California and other states, where courts have found that for purposes
    of child support, voluntary intercourse resulting in voluntary parenthood, allows the minor parent to be liable for the financial
    support of the minor infant.

    there are MANY instances of a man stepping up and manning up to do the right thing and so end up paying for some other jerks kid… meanwhile, IF she can marry him, the pot gets sweeter.

    the prize is 17% of income in NY before taxes and tax free (for 26 years as of Obama)… if married, the prize can be much larger including the family home, half of all assets, AND future increases if the ex does better than he did before she tapped that maple tree.

    now, i know that neo and others will pipe up and say, but very few ever get that… and i will agree… but very few win the lottery and any day of the week you can see people spend 500 dollars on lottery tickets in one shot.

    Shane SEYER ended up getting his babysitter pregnant when he was 12, and she was 16,,, so he has to pony up (professional rapist he is according to the feminist philosophers).

    and funny funny, this case comes from the SAME LOCATION that my wackaloon ex who faked her murder and robbed a bank comes from!!! so maybe its something in the water?

    Harlan County prosecutor Alan Wagers said his office would help a 27 year old woman appeal a trial court’s denial
    of her lawsuit to get the father of her child to pay support. The father was 14 at the time, essentially making him a victim of
    statutory rape because he was too young to consent. Rush was never prosecuted. [Bowling Green Daily News-AP, 5-3-96]

    and since the victims are male and not a protected class, they do not warrant having their names and personages protected!!!

    you see, the spravka is that we do that to protect the victims, but the truth if you take the time to note actual usage and actual outcomes, is to protect the woman only. so when you read these the woman is protected but the victim, whether beiber or not, is not protected.

    in this way, the public supports the protection of victims, but GETS the protection of women regardless (but not always, and often removed once enough guilt seems eminent).

    and there is a complete disregard of the HIGH LEVEL of false claims (as confirmed by studies to be as high as 40% or more in rape cases alone)

    In West Virginia, child support officials cleaned out the bank account of an 85-year-old grandmother whose son allegedly owed child support. The son never paid into the account, which comprised her life savings. She was also charged $75 processing fee.

    there are 45 year old people who are now applying the new law to events to things happening in the 60s…

    so its not about what it says its about, its about wealth distribution (given an analysis of the laws and the outcomes and the ways things actually happen), which prevents the most promising males who are not connected or elite, to mostly get slammed by a cultural land mine which then prevents them building a company, keeping a company, inventing, etc.

    i know, as i only now have been able to put some cash away, and have 35 years of engineering designs that work and many of them made by others as there was no way to acquire capital or even be a partner as the people who navigate such a field tend to not trust those who got slammed.

    the system ALSO is a force multiplier where the more reasonable and less nutty the lady is, the less she gets, and the more unreasonable, inflamatory, and often willing to lie she is, she can get away with murder.

    no, not figuratively, literally… to the point that they are making the conversion of murder 1 to manslaughter in women to male mate murders a part of law in the UK, and will be copied here since they are implementing article 21 (in actions even if not ratified, and even including foreign prcident and extension of US laws beyond borders)

  3. Considering some of the damn near unprintable (but they printed them anyway) things they said about Sarah Palin before she finally announced that she would not run, I find it difficult to conceive of the National Inquirer ever being ashamed of anything.
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  4. So now that there is a specific story, there is something to figure out. The common theme seems to be that Herman Cain is a ladies man who regularly hits on attractive women. That’s a common theme with powerful, charismatic men.

    But I see something here that I think deserves to be pointed out.

    Let’s take Bialek’s story at face value. She’s pretty good looking at 50. She was probably pretty damn hot at 37. Cain’s the president of NRA. Bialek has just been fired from NRA after working there 6 months. She makes a dinner date with Herman Cain to talk about finding her a job. Finding a job for a very attractive woman would be no problem for Herman Cain. He has connections all over industry, and could easily find a job for this woman.

    Cain, in Bialek’s story, obviously thinks that she’s hitting on him, and responds in kind. She comes into town for the dinner date, and he calls ahead and upgrades her hotel room to a “palatial suite.” At this point, arguendo, let’s give Bialek the benefit of the doubt in not realizing that there was a gross mismatch of expectations, because what unemployed job seeker comes into town to meet with a prospective employer and gets an unsolicited hotel upgrade from the employer she is presumably courting? They meet for the dinner date, and Cain suggests they visit the empty NRA offices. He seems to be making his intentions very clear.

    Making the stretch, I assume that she doesn’t know what’s going on. They get in the car. Herman Cain makes an early move to third base and puts his hand on her leg and moves up. Now she realizes what is happening and tells him:

    ‘What are you doing? You know I have a boyfriend. This isn’t what I came here for.’

    Ok. Stop right there. So far this story is old and familiar. It’s the stuff of a million date rape stories. He’s expecting sex, and she flat-out rejects him as he’s making his move. But there’s one thing all those stories have in common. The next sentence is:

    “He wouldn’t take no for an answer”

    But in the case of Herman Cain, what happens next is that a shocked Cain says:

    “You want a job, right?”

    and Bialek says:

    “I asked him to stop and he did. I asked him to take me back to my hotel which he did, right away.

    It seems clear to me that, if her story is true, right up until that exact moment, this was an evening of miscommunication. Herman Cain thought that he was, at the most, cheating on his wife, and trading a job reference for a booty call. Bialek thought that she was pouring on the charm to get a job or a job reference.

    And then, at the very moment when it all fell apart, a point at which many rich and powerful men — we all know their names — would have jacked up the pressure on the women or just forced their way, by her own story Herman Cain fought back all his sexual urges and did exactly the right thing. He did exactly the thing that all the feminists say he should have done. He took No for an answer, took her back to the hotel room, swallowed his “investment” on the hotel room and the dinner date, and went home.

    Even if Herman Cain is a powerful charismatic philanderer, Bialek’s story portrays him not as a sexual harasser or predator, but quite the opposite.

  5. The latest Machivelliean political art, able to be used only because a debased and debauched people are completely ignorant that to smear someone’s reputation is like murder, reaps now the tactic of “cultivation.” Since reality is feelings, feelings produce accusations which require no third source. Small important details, like $400 dollar bottles of wine, are mentioned for which the true context is missing.

    What percentage of interactions needs to qualify as subject to cultivation. Mr. Cain has had literally thousands.

  6. Sharon Bialek is playing a strange game. Here’s an eyewitness account of her recent encounter with Cain at a TEA Party rally in Chicago.
    http://tinyurl.com/7drf4p5

    What does that mean? Well, for one thing this woman has a history of financial difficulties and work related problems. That’s descibed here:
    http://tinyurl.com/6ssbbtf

    This could blow up in the dems face.

  7. I am sick of this whole mess: the overhyped sexual harrassment game, the I’ve-found-the-next-messiah rhetoric that allows no critical comments, the sleazy journalism that encourages terrible behaviour by selling it as cool, the name calling, the inability to analyze platforms and policies rationally, and the people who think they are the only repository of true values.

    I would like to get back to the time when men and women could be friends, chosen on the basis of character and shared interests, or work colleagues respected for their competence. This may sound naive, but it works for me.

  8. Folks I’ve been something of a student of Chicago politics for four decades. There is no dirtier politics in the country, period.

    In addition to the links in J.J’s comment above, she also is at least a passing acquaintance of Axlerod. This smells, and is at it’s base only she said / he said.

    Unless some credible evidence emerges of actual misconduct on Cain’s part, I see this as nothing more than an organized smear. Carefully structured and well executed.

  10. Actually, Neo, it’s now come out that she does or has lived in the same building as *The* Axelrod…but she says she’s never met him.

  12. When the populace is made up of good, traditional Christian and Jewish people, there is no possibility of “cultivation.” When the population becomes “secular” which means their god is the state and their religion is politics, then cultivation becomes the norm.

    Cultivation: the tactic of using a programmed populace to respond to plants of accusations against opponents.

  13. One reason the scum bag pundits like Karl Rove, who flatten their fat pig faces against our TV set for the praises of their RINO masters, didn’t consider concerning why Sarah Palin would have a better chance than any other candidate was that cultivation would yield unremarkable results against her because that garden, already planted and reaped, has provided its maximum yield and, indeed, a new crop has been sown in its place which was refudiating the policy and practice of cultivation.

  14. The entire scandal is made up. Having worked at a large organization for many years, I’m familiar with the many many ways that people’s reputations can be smeared.

    The details of the “$400 bottles of wine” make me even more suspicious. That’s the kind of number that gets thrown around–but how many people on expense accounts would spend this kind of money on wine?

    Maybe the hedge fund managers, Obamas, and Fanny Mae/Freddie Mac managers would do so, but I doubt that most normal executives would spend that much on just wine at a meal to impress some commonplace female.

    Does Cain have a history of being a wine connoisseur? The amount is silly. Eight hundred dollars for an unknown f**k? Not cost effective. Is Cain known to be a nouveau riche kind of guy who wears bling and throws money around? I don’t get that impression of him. A man like him would not have to spend thousands to get a female in his bed.

  16. Excerpt:

    WILLEY: Oh, don’t even get me started. Really, I know. Well, there again, they didn’t come to my rescue. I, I cannot tell you how many phone calls I made to Patricia Ireland at NOW. And, and, you know, just pleas, pleas for help. Just anything. They, they never called me back. They never called me, none of them. And, they’re, when they were asked, you know, about me after all this happened, the responses were so tepid. You know, it was like, “Well, if it did happen, we had something real serious to deal with here.” And then who was it, the one that said, you know, Betty Friedan or somebody, just made a horrible, crude remark, you know, about what just happened, you know, as long as he, as long as Clinton keeps, keeps, you know, he’s not against abortion…

  17. Baklava excerpt from Kathleen Willey,
    “…..as long as Clinton keeps, keeps, you know, he’s not against abortion…”

    Methinks you have broken the code. Cain comes out (although somewhat confusedly) as being against legal abortion. That marks him as not only an Uncle Tom, but a true enemy of an issue of paramount importance to the left. He must be destroyed! Thus, the major artillery has been unleashed.

  18. Any one other than me later realize that the reason there was no lawsuit was that she was already not employed. ie, she was not under him in power or anything, any more than a person walking off the street…

    while the others were working at the time, and so human resources handled it.

    other than the newer modern version where harassment can be a kiss on the cheek by an 8 year old (boy to a girl) in 3rd grade!!!!

    and that definition long ago lost those kinds of requirements. now a person on a subway can have a harrasement suit on another passenger…

    ie… the word has been broadened to include sexual assault, and all the other laws that existed to cover such prior to the expansion. by pushing it all under one umbrella you lose distinction.

    and you cant have innocence till proven guilty if there are ways to distinguish things. ALSO, by lumping them together, mild forms not actionable before, now become as bad as or worse just cause they are in the rotten apple bin.

    you see… such behavior does not reach harassment… which is to annoy and requires longer interactions…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment
    The section below “EEOC Definition” describes the legal definitions that have been created for sexual harassment in the workplace. Definitions similar to the EEOC defnition have been created for academic environments in the U.S. Department of Education Sexual Harassment Guidance..

    The EEOC defines sexual harassment as:

    Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, or other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature when:

    1. Submission to such conduct was made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual’s employment,

    2. Submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual was used as the basis for employment decisions affecting such individual, or

    3. Such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual’s work performance or creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment.

    1. and 2. are called “quid pro quo” (Latin for “this for that” or “something for something”). They are essentially “sexual bribery”, or promising of benefits, and “sexual coercion”.

    Type 3. known as “hostile work environment,” is by far the most common form. This form is less clear cut and is more subjective.

    she was neither hired or fired because of what happened… there was no job being offered to lose…

    that is, her story ONLY works in the feminist world where all men are guilty, and specifics dont matter because all men are guilty

    MEANWHILE…
    about half the trouble i ever had from women was because i was not interested at all. IE… she went through the trouble, and on and on, and at the end, i could care less. given modern womens logic (not all of course but WAY too many), i need to be punished for making her take all that effort for nothing.

    and the obversal (not reversal) i once traveled two hours, with flowers, for a valentine date… got there, and was informed after the gas, tolls, car cleaning, flowers, and turning other options down, that this was a date for a magazine article. of course i was not to be angry as any company of a woman is akin to the presence of a god, and should be enough.

    yeah right.
    i took the flowers back, asked a waitress if she was single… she said yes, i said have a happy valentines day. and left… to drive 2 hours back to ny…

    basically, i am starting to consider that the old custom of having a chaperone was to protect the man more than the women and we just believe the opposite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for he had a lot more to lose due to the gossip girls.

    and if you dont think this is gossip girls territory, anyone tune in the VIEW, or see what the next issue of Cosmo, and Vogue, Marie claire, and Ms…. will all say?

  20. This is trash “journalism” of the worst sort, random claims thrown out years after the fact and hence not only not verifiable in the least, but, even more critically, based on supposition, innuendo, and all around gossip.

    It really doesn’t matter who published the story “originally” — the basis for it is blatantly unsound and to repeat it as a serious allegation worthy of repetition is to demonstrate a total lack of either competence or ethics or both.

    I know next to nothing about Cain but if this kind of crap is the worst these pricks can dig up, then he’s lilly-white (oops, racism!) as anyone running for political office can be.

    Amazing how Cain can be “guilty” of this kind of alleged harassment but Clinton can actually HARASS his interns and “Hey, that’s A-OK!!!”

    The glaring double standard is appalling.

  21. With all of Buy-a-lick’s lawsuits… why did she hesitate at suing Cain?

    Because she wasn’t “Able”.

    HA! Knee slapper…

  23. Fifth woman raises questions about Cain’s behavior

    campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/fifth-woman-raises-questions-about-cains-behavior

    A former employee of the United States Agency for International Development says Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain asked her to help arrange a dinner date for him with a female audience member following a speech he delivered nine years ago.

    ah… you see. a woman asked a question in the audience and cain asked the other lady to get her name so he could answer her questions over dinner

    (starting to think that they are doing this for the headline since poseurs and surface people only read headlines and maybe first and last paragraph)

    here is the horror itself:

    “And after the seminar was over,” Donella told The Washington Examiner, “Cain came over to me and a colleague and said, ‘Could you put me in touch with that lovely young lady who asked the question, so I can give her a more thorough answer over dinner?'”

    Donella, who no longer works for USAID, said they were suspicious of Cain’s motives and declined to set up the date. Cain responded, “Then you and I can have dinner.” That’s when two female colleagues intervened and suggested they all go to dinner together, Donella said.

    Cain exhibited no inappropriate sexual behavior during the dinner, though he did order two $400 bottles of wine and stuck the women with the bill, she said.

    and so…
    it seems like its the progressive anti bellum times again… where the oversexed ne gro is not safe to be round de wommens…

    Donella said she felt it was important to describe her encounter with Cain after hearing more serious allegations of sexual harassment brought by other women.

    “I couldn’t swear that he had some untoward intentions, but we all thought his tone was suspect and we didn’t feel comfortable putting him in touch with that woman,” Donella recalled.

    “I think [Cain] should not be a serious candidate for the presidential nomination because of what I’ve seen,” said Donella, an independent who said she voted for President Obama in 2008 and probably will again next year. “He’s not a person I would want running the country.”

    hasnt feminism really really improved things where the women on top think for the women on the bottom, and the women on the bottom think for the men, and know more than the men what that man is thinking.

    and so, everywoman, has to trust them that they know, in that special woman way. the way they knew about duke rape case, the way they know that the 40% false reports of rape are not false, and so on.

    we have, for the sake of equality, uplifted the back yard gossip fence to the level of a court…

    in such a world, the ONLY candidates that can run at all are those who are neuter, gay, or feminist approved (communist).

    ANY others will be neutralized (neutered) by the ladies… and the good ladies? they are not even “real” women, nor do their numbers matter…

    i said to look at the set up in MS, and others. did anyone? doubt it..

    once you read, you MAY realize that there are no other options.. unless you dont want to read a womens magazine… (go ahead, give me one that isnt controlled either directly with a feminist owner editor core, or in fear of that same core someplace else… same core is doing cain)

    DO notice that since its a republican doing bad, they are going to say so in the first sentence. if he was doing good, they would omit it… among other games…

    the stuff is under FEMINIST WIRE DAILY NEWSBRIEFS… (which also has a link to the feminist majority foundation)
    http://www.msmagazine.com/news/news.asp

    what you HAVE to read is the websites of the leaders!!!

    You know, even setting race aside, since I think most people can figure what’s going on there without me having to spell it out, what’s clear here is that Cain is a genius at refighting the 60s. And that, more than anything compels the teabaggers. It’s sort of the purest version of sticking it to the liberals. The national historical consensus on the 60s is that liberals were right. We were right about civil rights, we were right about women’s rights, we were right about the war. And they’ve never gotten over that. Three quarters of conservative energy probably goes to trying to get around this problem. Even though most conservatives would be wailing about MLK is a communist agent if this were the 60s, they love to pretend that they would have somehow supported him.
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Cain shamelessly panders to that urge. He allows conservatives to feel the thrill of MLK’s soaring rhetoric without having to do anything like support MLK’s actual views. He tells them that they’re right to do this, because they’re the one who are actually oppressed. I’m sure he’s happy to throw in hand jobs while he’s at it.

    pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/herman_cains_inexplicable_popularity_becomes_easier_to_understand

    and this:
    Will this hurt Cain? Almost certainly not. The reason? The GOP base doesn’t give a damn who they nominate as long as the person is as conservative as humanly possible. If Cain had sexually harassed women while attempting to unionize them, then his campaign would be effectively over. But at this point, any black conservative who faces allegations of personal impropriety is a victim of a high-tech lynching until he accidentally blurts out something about the minimum wage being worthwhile.

    should look at the others…
    MOST of the time she has her history wrong but EXACTLY the revisioned versions…

    here are some ‘famous’ amanda marcotte quotes

    “Q: What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit? A: You’d have to justify your misogyny with another ancient mythology.”
    — Amanda Marcotte (Former Blogmaster for John Edwards’ 2008 Presidential Campaign)

    “the Catholic church is not about to let something like compassion for girls get in the way of using the state as an instrument to force women to bear more tithing Catholics.” — Amanda Marcotte

    and regarding the Duke fiasco where nothing happened and the professors never apologized or recinded their words of guilty till proven innocent (which they were eventually!!!)

    [Regarding the Duke University False Rape Allegations Case] “Can’t a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it? So unfair.” — Amanda Marcotte

    the leaders are pips…
    but THEY LEAD, so anyone else if not in some drivers seat, is irrelevent… dont matter how many powerless women think otherwise…

    it only matters what those that act, and those who plan and collude and do.. others are just talking and so forth…

    and given the way this works – NO ONE but women can stop it… if the men stop it, we fulfill the lie about us… so we HAVE to let them tear the whole place apart IF women let them…

    and they are…
    and as long as women side at all, and they have this power, we are going to end up in a totalitarian state… they wont give up until they get what they want, even if they dont want it…

  26. No one has asked who actually paid for the two $400 bottles. The narrator was a State Dept (USAID) employee, so I suspect that you and I paid for it. I also suspect that Cain knew all along who would pick up the tab for the dinner. Just as when I demonstrated corporate jets for a living and went to dinner with someone from marketing, the individual with the unlimited expense account paid the tab. As far as we were concerned, It was all “free” so no one cared how much it cost.

    Soon, no one will run for high office unless the person is a Saint, or like Newt, has already been through the furnace and the wounds have healed.

  27. Maybe in his salad days, Mr Cain was a big flirt, lots of executives, especially those who travel for work, are subject to normal human failings and loneliness.
    However, that was all many years ago. At this point, he is a 60 plus, stage four cancer survivor, with grandchildren. Life moves along, people change. None of these accusations have anything to do with Today..

  28. And, yet, we’re left trying to “prove a negative” if we want to “clear his name”. So far, I’m left wondering HOW it seems that NO ONE from ANY organization other than the NRA, seems to have had a “run-in” with Mr. Cain in all the years he’s been in positions of power??

  29. chaperones protected both parties

    So, the only Republican politician safe from these accusations is the one with the child always glued to her hip.

    I see the rise of the family woman with large broods–no, wait, I already see that 😉

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