1. I really don’t understand how this woman can sue anyone for defamation, unless her name actually is “His Accuser.” Otherwise, we don’t even know who she is because (to the best of my knowledge, anyway) no one associated with the case in any way has ever revealed her name. I guess this is a result of the now long-standing unofficial ban on mentioning the names of alleged rape victims, but nevertheless, a pretty good argument could be made that Dominique Strauss-Kahn is the only person to have been defamed so far.

2. In fighting this is called “windmill”

   a person who has little experience in the law, but goes to game the system, has a few lawyers on their side for a bit, then thinks that they can battle like big boys and sue.

   ie… if someone EVER paid her for a service, she is a prostitute at some time… you can bet that that is a point that was easily validated if it wasnt a one time thing, as this kind of person swims in a tank of similar people… and so, when they make out, the other hogs come in and try to get their share of the slop in the trough

   as far as betsybounds point… well, i dont know, as i do remember that the constition says one has a right to know their accuser and so on… but thats been excepted withotu a constitutional change, as has the idea of innocence before trial, as well as assumption that the victim is a victim and not a perpetrator themselves, etc.

   the law of these exceptions in constitution and with ideology creates the kind of atmosphere where its easy to play the law if your a “more than equal” protected class with special unconstitutional dispensation.

   the feminista have managed to inject the idea that women do not lie in such matters… (and if they do, then the victim can learn something). as they injected that we are equal, so if ones family dies out or one has no kids, who cares? and all manner of stuff… todays view discussed how its no longer practical to be monogamous in a marraige or relationship and we should jsut get over it and handle it.

   its kind of interesting that a huge part of the whoel of the movement was about how men cheated and lied… and now has come full circle and decalred marraiges a certain way and that cheating like this is to be the new norm (and they brought in the gay marraige to point this out too)

   whoopie had a great time telling the kind of thing that if you thought about it for 10 seconds…. you would say are they insane? even the experimentation for most couples would destroy the relationship… ie, the fantasy is very hard to make work (i know, i was polyamorous for a time)

   to point out the name of the ‘victim’, one only has to read press from other countries who do NOT protect the innocent since one does not know who is the innocent or the guilty until trial.

   and notice that there is no restitution for strauss-kahn… that is this welp would never make enough to make any form of amends anyway… protected by her poverty… and ideologues…

   you can go here to see get her name
   http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2011/05/17/01002-20110517ARTFIG00717-ophelia-la-victime-sans-visage.php

   passable translation from french:
   her real name is Nafissatou Diallo and her native country is Guinea. She also has an American Permanent Resident Card. Most of the time, says Mark Gangadeen, a neighbor of hers quoted in the tabloid New York Post, this “practicing Muslim” wears dark pants, flat shoes and a tribal-printed scarf to cover her hair.

   a photo of her is at the link

   from the start the whole thing stank of a game…
   and even more so when you think of other details that are coming out. its VERY much reminiscent of the duke case: Crystal Gail Mangum

   In March 2006 Crystal Gail Mangum, an African American student at North Carolina Central University[1][2] who worked as a stripper,[3] dancer and escort,[4] falsely accused three white Duke University students, members of the Duke Blue Devils men’s lacrosse team, of raping her at a party held at the house of two team’s captains in Durham, North Carolina on March 13, 2006.

   it went so far that the feminist and pc correct academics signed a petition and put in the paper, and have NEVER apologized…

   the research (if not done by feminists), shows that almost 8% of accusations are false..

   Empirical evidence does not support the widespread belief that women are extremely unlikely to make false accusations of male sexual misconduct. Rather the research on accusations of rape, sexual harassment, incest, and child sexual abuse indicates that false accusations have become a serious problem. The motivations involved in making a false report are widely varied and include confusion, outside influence from therapists and others, habitual lying, advantages in custody disputes, financial gain, and the political ideology of radical feminism. institute for psychological studies / journal vol 6 / Believe Her! The Woman Never Lies Myth

   Male sexual misconduct – rape, incest, stalking, sexual harassment, child molestation, pornography trafficking – has, according to some observers, become a problem so big that it demands a big solution, not only the reform of our legal system but of our entire society. Yet the increasingly heated debate over this crisis has focused primarily on how these misbehaviors are defined and how often they occur. The estimated numbers keep mounting. We hear that perhaps 31 million women are suffering from some form of rape, 41 million from harassment, 58 million from child sexual abuse, and all 125 million of them – from toddlers to grandmothers – from a toxic “rape culture” that suffocates the feminine spirit.

   Much less discussed is how often an allegation of male sexual misconduct is false. The question seldom enters the debate because, presumably, it had long ago been settled. Pennsylvania State Law Professor Philip Jenkins (1993), in a review of the “feminist jurisprudence” which leads the sex crisis counterattack, reports that in response to the question its proponents have established an “unchallengeable orthodoxy.” It is that “women did not lie about such victimization, never lied, not out of personal malice, not from mental instability or derangement” (p.19).

   so a lot of people know things, but they cant challenge a collectively supported orthodoxy…

   no one is willing to stand up for the side that fights agains the side that colludes to destroy people as a means to an alternative end.

   [if we didnt leave the bank haning out to dry on CRA they would have pushed back against the application of heads i win tails you lose social engineering games]

   Wendy Kaminer (1993) reported that “it is a primary article of faith among many feminists that women don’t lie about rape, ever; they lack the dishonesty gene” (p.67). Eight years earlier, in 1985, John O’Sullivan discovered a widespread defense of the belief that “no woman would fabricate a rape charge” (p.22). Feminists themselves admit as much.

   Law Professor Susan Estrich stated that “the whole effort at reforming rape laws has been an attack on the premise that women who bring complaints are suspect” (Newsweek, 1985, p.61).

   Some feminists believe that even defending that premise is a sex crime.

   Alan Dershowitz (1993) reports that he was accused of sexual harassment for discussing in class the possibility of false rape allegations.

   so again… its the SAME fronts backed by the SAME ideology… and its been going on since i started studying it when i was told by a judge that i had no rights as a male… and had my life destroyed by a legal system out to punish me for murdering a woman who is still alive today

   ie… they were going to prosecute me under all these nice legal changed that basically presumed my guilt, took away my rights, my child, and so on… and there was no crime…

   so i am VERY aware of how this game works and have been writing and mentioning and talking since the early 80s..

   as you can see… the collective feminists cant be opposed… which is also why i am not in school

   but back to the law..

   elieving the self-proclaimed victim of sexual misconduct has thus evolved from ideological conviction to legal doctrine and, in some jurisdictions, into law. California now requires that jurors be explicitly told that a rape conviction can be based on the accuser’s testimony alone, without corroboration (Associated Press, 1992; Farrell, 1993). Canada is proposing that a man accused of rape must demonstrate that he received the willing consent of a sexual partner.

   These new rules rest on the assumption that women do not lie because they have no motive to lie. Consequently, as Jenkins (1993) states, the question of the “victim’s credibility” has now become “crucial.”

   Is that credibility warranted, particularly as feminist jurisprudence would want it established, as nearly automatic? Not if we consult recent history. And if we do, we will find that we do indeed face a sexual misconduct crisis, but not the one radical feminists now insist is ubiquitous in our society.

   and how many destroyed families, wrecked children and so on are strewn on that highway?

   Begin with evidence of false accusation of rape, the crime which has become not only the metaphor for all cases of sexual misconduct but for male sexuality itself. Alan Dershowitz (1991), for example, has further harassed his students by telling them that an annual F.B.I. survey of 1600 law enforcement agencies discovered that 8% of rape charges are completely unfounded. That figure, which has held steadily over the past decade, is moreover at least twice as high as for any other felony. Unfounded charges of assault, which like rape is often productive of conflicting testimony, comprise only 1.6% of the total compared to the 8.4% recorded for rape.

   8% are completely unfounded..
   how many are just changed mind the next day?
   many times, like tawana brawely (who made al sharpton who he is today) benifit, and she got a rolex for it)..

   hows this for DNA…
   1/3 show no match…
   that would be a 33% rate

   Consult also a recent development, DNA testing, which is now becoming routine in rape investigations (Krajik, 1993). Also routine is the discovery that a third of the DNA scans produce non-matches.

   -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

   Although useful, the F.B.I. and DNA data on sex crimes result from unstructured number gathering. More informative, therefore, are the results of a focused study of the false allegation question undertaken by a team headed by Charles P McDowell (McDowell & Hibler, 1985) of the U.S. Air Force Special Studies Division. Its significance derives not only from its scholarly credentials but also its time of origin, 1984/85, a period during which rape had emerged as a major issue, but before its definition included almost any form of non-consensual sex

   The McDowell team studied 556 rape allegations. Of that total, 256 could not be conclusively verified as rape. That left 300 authenticated cases of which 220 were judged to be truthful and 80, or 27%, were judged as false.

   given that results can be questioned, mcdowel did more work

   The McDowell team did in fact address these questions in follow-up studies. They recruited independent reviewers who were given 25 criteria derived from the profiles of the women who openly admitted making a false allegation. If all three reviewers agreed that the rape allegation was false, it was then listed by that description. The result: 60% of the accusations were identified as false. McDowell also took his study outside the military by examining police files from a major midwestern and a southwestern city. He found that the finding of 60% held (Farrell, 1993, pp. 321-329).

   60%

   yet… we all wanted strauss kahn the evil wealthy man… to be guilty… was it demonization of the wealthy and ideology that says they are guilty?

   or is it like berea said.. show me the man and i will show you the crime… even if that was not what he was guilty of, he was guilty of something so its all ok any way?

   A survey of seven Washington, D.C. area jurisdictions in the 1991/2 period, for example, revealed that an average of 24% of rape charges were unfounded (Buckley, 1992). A recently completed study of a small midwestern city was reported by Eugene J. Kanin (1994) of the Department of Sociology and Anthropology at Purdue University. Kanin concluded that “false rape allegations constitute 41% of the total forcible rape cases reported during this period” (p.81).

   but their work doesnt make it to the public!!!!

   why?

   well would the view, and ladies magazines publish these facts or the other fact that women are superior, which is why they buy the mags that kiss their asses the most or rather their vanity…

   ie… they will accept delusionally that no women lie, and can be 110 and beat up a 220 man, because it appeals to their vanity…

   so where and how can common women get the actual facts as they develop their world view, and go out and vote, donate money, donate life time energy to the causes, and act on things as if the false facts are the real ones…

   Equally revealing were addenda following Kanin’s basic report. They reported studies in two large Midwestern state universities which covered a three-year period ending in 1988. The finding of the combined studies was that among a total of 64 reported rapes exactly 50% were false. Kanin found these results significant because the women in the main report tended to gather in the lower socioeconomic levels, thus raising questions about correlations of false allegation with income and educational status. After checking figures gathered from university police departments, he therefore reported that “quite unexpectedly then, we find that these university women, when filing a rape complaint, were as likely to file a false as a valid charge.” In addition, Kanin cited still another source (Jay, 1991) which supported findings of high frequency false allegations in the universities. On the basis of these studies, Kanin felt it reasonable to conclude that “false rape accusations are not uncommon” (p.90).

   i can call up hundreds of studies that are very well done, and have been re done and so on.
   and they TOTALLY reverse the pc feminists claims…

   but then again… they said all men are rapists.. and i will not quote a dozen of them this time. but i can do that and more and more..

   there is evne more that the same games have been played with elder abuse and with child abuse.. with them desperately trying to ignore the favored Volks crimes..

   This rape and sexual harassment pattern – expanding definitions, rapidly increasing accusations, intensely politicized publicity campaigns, and significantly high percentages of false allegations – has also appeared in still another arena, the agencies which deal with the sexual molestation of children. With this kind of sexual misconduct the credibility of a third party, the child, becomes a factor, and we hear, in addition to appeals to “believe the woman” an appeal to “believe the child.” We are now learning that children can be manipulated into supplying dramatic testimony of sexual abuse and that in most cases the accusation originates not with the child but with the mother. Thus the question of credibility once again focuses on women. As one lawyer put it, “For a lot of these people ‘believe the child’ is just code. What they really mean is, ‘believe the woman, no questions asked”‘ (Stein, 1992, p. 160).

   To keep this issue in perspective, note three significant facts. The first is that of the 2,700,000 cases of child abuse reported every year less than 10% involve serious physical abuse and only 8% involve alleged sexual abuse (Schultz, 1989). The second is that, contrary to the male victimizer/female victim paradigm of feminist ideology, at least as many boys as girls are victimized by child abuse, if not more. The third is that the majority of child abusers are women, that the most dangerous environment for a child is a home formed by a single mother and her boyfriend, and the safest is formed by a married mother and a husband who is the child’s biological father

   so the common women and public believes the single mother should get the kids.. and that the father is the beast.

   mothers abuse the children more than the father
   step mothers abuse the children more than the father // foster parents abuse the children more than the father // step fathers abuse the children more than the father (and the statistics reporting do not separate them from blood fathers!!)

   this has been known for over 20 years, and yet, what do we believe and how willing are we to make constituitional exceptions for the owmen and children under false premise?

   hitler said that if you do it for the children, the
   parents and everyone will debase themselves…

   Another consensus is being reached: that the majority of these allegations are false. Melvin Guyer, Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan, reports that “in highly contested custody cases where the allegation is made, a number of researchers have found the allegations to be false or unsubstantiated in anywhere from 60 to 80% of those cases ” (Felten, 1991). Another investigative team stated that of 200 cases they studied” about three-fourths have ultimately been adjudicated as no abuse” (Felten, 1991). Some studies have come in with a lower but still significant estimate. For example, a 1988 study by the Association of Family and Conciliation Courts said that sexual molestation charges in divorces are probably false one-third of the time (Dvorchak, 1992).

   i knew a man who was the boyfriend of a woman with two kids… he went to jail for 5 years for abuse that never happened… the children said it didnt happen, the wife said it couldnt happen as she was there all the time, and he claimed it… but his step mother who didnt like the woman, called it in.. and the meat grinder went to work. when he came out, the same judge that told me i had no rights, nearly threw him back in prison for failure to pay support while in prison.

   nice eh?

   but if you say something you will get some person, even here, that its not that way… in other areas you actually get told you dont get laid enough. i know, i covred this issue for 20 years till my son was too old to be home again.

   but through that, the thread led back to the same people over and over and over and over again like some wacked out twilight zone episode!

   The clearest example of compelling motive can be found in the Sexual Allegation in Divorce (S.A.I.D.) syndrome. In such cases questionable allegations multiply because the accuser has far more to gain than to lose. Simply charging a divorcing spouse with child molestation – or wife battering or spousal rape – can turn a hot but evenly balanced custody battle into a rout. In many cases, the accused husband must vacate what had been the “family” home and submit to prolonged alienation from his children. He also finds himself ensnared by both the criminal justice and the social service bureaucracies whose conflicting rules of evidence can deny him the presumption of innocence. In a process that only a Kafka can describe, he must then devote his resources to defending himself rather than pursuing the original divorce litigation.

   my lawyer at one point was a supreme court judge who wanted to help the family since he knew i was being railroaded…but as it said above… once the alegation was made, in a wrong venue too, that was the end of that…

   this despite her faking a murder, and more…

   a few years later, after zero contact, she took the boy and went into a bank with two other kids and ended up arrested for bank robbery and getting 2 years in club fed.

   i still had no rights..

   bankrupted, no more reputation, career destroyed, friends gone.. child taken…

   never stopped me from studying and working on my mathematics and discoveries…

   but it did stop me from getting reputation, and going to school and so none of my successful work means anything as no one will look at it… ramanujan would not have been known today.

   but i am very very very cognisant of this whole area… very much…

   Even then he may find himself in jail or in court ordered therapy while his accuser has won de facto custody not only of the children but of the house. Should he eventually win vindication, a process which can literally take years, he may enjoy at best a hollow victory which leaves him financially and emotionally drained, nursing a permanently injured reputation and functioning as an “absent” father with a sparse schedule of controlled visits. It is no wonder, then, that to express the reality commentators have sometimes used dramatic language, such as “the ultimate weapon” or the “atom bomb.”

   all this is related, including obama too… how? easy… feminism… who helped put him in place, how many offices of special stuff for women did he pay them back for it?

   that same group, and whose behind them is responsible for so much ill in oursociety, while claiming to fix it… JUST AS JOHN CLEESE TEACHES IN ONE OF HIS SHORT MOVIES.

   The impressive results that are so often easily achieved with false allegations in custody disputes suggest the kind of temptations women may feel in other situations. Among those found to have lied about rape or sexual harassment, for example, a number of motivations have been identified. The McDowell report listed those they uncovered in declining order of appearance. “Spite or revenge” and “to compensate for feelings of guilt or shame” accounted for 40% of such allegations (Farrell, 1993, p. 325). A small percentage were attributed to “mental/emotional disorder or attempted extortion.” In all cases, then, the falsely alleging woman had any of several strong motives to lie. But, as with the S.A.I.D. syndrome, the most common motive was anger, an emotion which prompts more than a few embattled women to reach for “the ultimate weapon.

   and

   In some cases which were later proved to be false, the financial stakes were particularly high. One lawyer was charged with coaching six of his clients to “embellish or lie” about some of the incidents on which they based a sexual harassment case. They had asked for $487,000 (Gonzales, 1993). Eleven women from the Miss Black America Pageant, after claiming that Mike Tyson had touched them on their rears, filed a $607 million lawsuit against him. Several of the contestants later admitted they had lied in the hope of getting publicity and cashing in on the award money which would have given them around $20 million each (Farrell, 1993, p.328).

   But where extortion does appear, the motivation may be political as well as monetary not only in particular cases but in the growth of the entire sexual misconduct crisis. Whether it is rape or sexual harassment or divorce-related child molestation or recovered incest memory, many of the investigators eventually mention the influence of ideological feminism.

   Katie Roiphe, for example, found feminist politics at work in the phony rape story invented by Mindy, the imaginative Princeton co-ed.

   Norman Podhoretz, who wrote about “Rape in Feminist Eyes,” attributes the current over-publicized obsession with rape to “the influence of man-hating elements within the (women’s) movement (which) has grown so powerful as to have swept all before it” (1992, p.29).

   As far back as 1985 John Sullivan attributed the overheated denial of false accusation to attempts to defend the “feminist theory of rape.”

   And Philip Jenkins (1993), who reported the trend toward automatically-assumed female credibility, stated that it was part of a larger campaign to establish “feminist jurisprudence.”

   Whatever their motivations in particular cases, there is little doubt that ideological feminists have achieved significant political gains from publicizing the sexual misconduct crisis.

   Lisa Olson’s feelings of harassment may for example have been genuine, but as the focus for a prolonged media event that established for female reporters an access to locker rooms it was as unpopular with the general public as it was with male athletes.

   The real Anita Hill may or may not have been lying, but the Hill/Thomas affair propelled sexual harassment into a hot issue that rapidly generated a subindustry of scholars, consultants, and bureaucrats, prompted a “Year of the Woman” campaign that helped several women into congress, and revived a flagging women’s movement.

   and at what cost did they get their power through manipulation not MERIT?

3. Do Women Lie About Rape?

   msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2011/04/07/do-women-lie-about-rape/

   So what’s the answer? Do women lie about rape? According to Joanne Archambault, a former sex crimes unit supervisor, the answer is fairly simple: “[False reports] are not a problem. They happen, but they’re not a problem.” Research has shown that only roughly 2 to 8 percent of rape reports are untrue, (for car thefts, another felony offense, that number is about 10 percent [pdf].) Two to 8 percent is a pretty small number to justify the climate of fear around false rape reports.

   so who cares if 10% of the people put in prison are innocent.. .

   so as i said… what do they tell the ladies in their ear that they have that favors their ideological view, in which they can use this to destroy the enemy, and use their constituency through lying…

   at the bottom of this ‘informative’ stuff is

   In the new issue of Ms. we highlight a major factor contributing to the belief that women lie about rape: The FBI’s narrow and outmoded definition of “forcible” rape.

   Subscribe today to get the issue in your mailbox, and visit Ms. and the Feminist Majority Foundation’s No More Excuses! campaign headquarters to find out how you can help change the FBI’s archaic definition and ensure that all rapes count.

   care to see marie claire, vogue, and womens studies textbooks?

4. dudley says:
   April 7, 2011 at 9:35 am
   I have worked a bunch of jobs in my life. I have learned that my fellow men are really really afraid of false rape allegations. The older men justified their racism as well as their fears with Tawana Brawley where the truth is almost impossible to find. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley_rape_allegations

   Men that I’ve worked with from environmental consulting to line cooking, would not listen to reason as to how common rape is compared to false rape allegations. No amount of explaining that it is really completely easy not to rape someone, (I hear a lot of fuzzy explanations about alcohol) makes them feel secure. I’ve actually heard a guy at a college party say, “After she has another beer, I got to hurry up and get drunk so I can fuck her.” Under the (self-protective) belief that if they are both drunk, he cannot be held responsible for her “bad decision making.”

   I don’t know you womenfolk deal with this shit all the time.

   @DrBeckerSchutte says:
   April 8, 2011 at 8:43 pm
   Dudley—we deal with it because men like you exist and remind us not to give up hope!

5. I find it interesting that you link to the story of the Preppy Murder by Robert Chambers in NYC back in 86. I was living in Manhattan at the time and was part of the jury pool summoned for his trial. I remember being called into a room with the Judge, prosecutor, defense attorney and Robert Chambers all seated at a table. I was asked three questions. Have you read anything about this case? Have you formed any opinion? What is that opinion? You are excused. Obviously, my response to the first two questions was yes, and to the third, “He’s guilty as hell”. That scumbag got off with a light sentence, as the judge would not allow the true motive for the murder (robbery of a pair of Jennifer Levin’s diamond earrings) from being entered. Instead, it became “rough sex” gone wrong. I will always remember the smirk on his face when I was promptly excused from the jury.

6. I have a problem here. I certainly do not trust that our glorious MSM is reporting anything close to “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” on any subject, this case included.

   Articles in Foreign newspapers tell us that the DSK is such a notable and well known horn dog that his nickname is “the Great Seducer,” and that several high status women in France and elsewhere have come forward to say that he raped or tried to rape them, with one of them reportedly to file suit this week.

   In line with Obama & Co.’s witch hunt against “fat cats” DSK was portrayed as just such a loathsome fat cat–which he may well be–but who can be sure when our MSM routinely hides, obscures, twists, and distorts the truth in the service of far left ideology, Obama & Co., and class warfare?

   Our MSM at first portrayed the maid as a humble, innocent immigrant, shocked by DSK’s aggressive attempts to get a blow job, but now that same MSM reports that she was a prostitute.

   Some have alleged that DSK was being set up, and DSK was dumped and the new head of the IMF was chosen and installed at what seems to be breakneck speed (I also note the suspicious fact that a claim of diplomatic immunity, which could have been at least arguable given the international agreements and law involved, was never even raised or attempted). So, it seems possible to me that those who would benefit from a change in the leadership and policies of the IMF could conceivably have decided that, given the Great Seducer’s well known reputation and behavior, it would be a relatively easy thing to set him up.

   So, where does the truth lie? I have no idea.

   But, I would have a much better chance of arriving at the truth if our MSM were honest, competent, and thorough.

7. Utter lack of shock….

8. Well, I’m told that DSK did try to claim diplomatic immunity to the detectives who took him off the plane. I’m also told that he left many of his belongings in the room and just split, without checking out.

   Here’s what I think: he did it. Then, after his arrest and indictment, his defense team came to Ms. Diallo with a choice, take this large pile of money and don’t squawk too loud while we drag you through the mud or sit their, poor and dejected while we drag you through the mud, anyway. Or maybe her injuries, and his, as well as his semen on her came from a nice visit from the semen and injury fairy who floated in on her tutu just sprayin’ that stuff all over.

   And this is the difference between Crystal Gayle Mangum and Ms. Diallo. Mangum had no semem and no injuries.

9. “I’m told that DSK did try to claim diplomatic immunity”

   Reminds me of that scene from one of the Lethal Weapon movies – “… HAS JUST BEEN REVOKED!”

10. I’ll wait and see what the process reveals. The newspapers will only tell you what they want you to know, and credibility (or lack thereof) flows in both directions on this case.

    Without any doubt, however, the prosecutor and police did the right thing in getting DSK off the plane. A credible accusation, reinforced with physical evidence, had been made and if they did not act, DSK would be just another Roman Polanski living the high life in his native France and never having had to face justice.

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