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  1. As luck would have it, I was on Pan Am 103 – the day before, i.e., the last flight to make it. I think I’ve still got the ticket somewhere.

  2. “a Hal-like computer malfunction”…there’s actually a very interesting book called “Taming HAL,” by a NASA human-factors expert, about accidents caused by autopilots, sophisticated medical devices, etc…or, to be more precise, caused by a disconnect between what the automation was *actually* doing and what the human(s) in the loop *thought* it was doing. In almost all the cases, the automation was doing exactly what it had been designed to do, but the human(s) did not understand what its behavior would be in a particular circumstance, usually because of a flawed man-machine interface.

  3. Both my brothers were military pilots and my younger brother still flies for a charter carrier – right seat on MD-11. I always ask them about these kind of things because they have great insight.

    My younger brother spoke to me of radar “attenuation”. Large thunderstorms containing tremendous energy can actually absorb a majority of the radar and only reflect a small amount. This gives the mistaken impression that storms are much (very much) less intense than they actually are.

    He related to me an incident when he was still in the service and flying out of Indonesia (on his way to Korea I think) where there was a tropical cyclone wandering around out there but not directly in their flight path. He experienced the attenuation and said had it not been for a co-pilot who was familiar with it he might not still be around today. Since he was the AC (aircraft commander) he made the decision to turn around.

    In this country it is rare that there are storms that planes can’t divert around. But down there the line of storms apparently stretched for some 400 miles with cells topping out at 55,000 ft. and since, being out of radar contact, they were flying an assigned “lane” the distant they could divert at their discretion was limited anyway. If they experienced the attenuation then it is possible they thought the had a hole they could fly through and by the time they were in it was too late to do anything.

    I asked my brother why, with all the technology available today, they couldn’t get satellite pictures, etc. he replied it was the cost the airlines were not willing to pay.

    So even if the weather looked okay on departure they were four hours into the flight and that was enough time for storms of unexpected severity to develop.

    As my brother said – sometimes it’s best to turn around and go home.

  4. I found this site from a link at Belmont Club. It is a meteorological analysis of the weather along Flight 447’s path.

    Most of it is way over my head, but it’s a stunning example of the depth and quality of information one can find on the internet, as opposed to the dumbed-down drivel we see daily in the “mainstream” media.

  5. Whatever happened to AF 447, there’s something terribly wrong when innocent passengers –depending on highly-trained pilots to get them to their destinations safely along with a modern, sophisticated aircraft — have to suffer a frighteningly violent and terrible death in the middle of the night. These people were enjoying a nice, comfortable trip; maybe eating a meal and/or having a relaxing drink, watching a movie, or sleeping, when they suddenly found themselves facing arguably one of the most horrific scenarios a human being can have — plummeting to their deaths in a jetliner from 30,000 feet.

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