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  1. It will be quite amusing if their own blindness to their derangement ends up killing them.

    I wouldn’t bet on either outcome (prosecute or no prosecute), many of those in question have shown in the past that when they have control they think they can maintain utter control. Some have also show that as long as a republican gets it then it *must* be good (and never understand their personal consequences even after they are hit with them). Then again none make it to that point without *some* level of political acuity.

    I also do not think that Obama really cares one way or another (and doesn’t believe it will impact him in anyway) and will do whatever the side pushing the hardest wants. Same thing with releasing said papers in the first place – he figured it was an irrelevancy and the people wanting it released were MUCH more aggressive than those not wanting it. Indeed, I rather suspect that if he thinks it will take down those big name Democrats I bet that goes heavily into the “plus” side of his cost/benefit analysis.

  2. it can come back to bite them all in the butt.

    I’d say that it already has come back to bite. And that it must continue to do so, given the presumption of the oh so moral stance that the President made sure we were to understand constituted the context of his “difficult” decision to expose these memos, and only these memos, to public view. I cannot see how he can turn himself to say, “Good Americans, my stance, far from being the proper moral stance, turns out to have been an immoral, selfish and unthinking stance which will redound to the nation’s harm.” Can you?

  3. using an immorality to acheive more morality is kind of like the logic that stealing from the productive and giving some of it to the poor will also work.

    its not the age of aquarius
    its the age of nefarious

    [both seem to be started by fascsists]

  4. The hubris of many (like Pelosi) allows them to think they can get away with any lies they want regarding their past actions. I think it is certainly bolstered by the fact they perceive the press to be on their side and will not bring up the past.

    As far as the MSM goes they are pretty much correct but there is a huge thing out there called the internet and just about everything is out there to find.

    Barack Obama said “Words mean something” – Pelosi, et all better take heed.

  5. Wouldn’t we also retain some of our “moral compass” if we investigated people who made bad economic predictions? They’ve sure cost us a lot of popularity in the world lately. But that would include Krugman, so I doubt he’s as sold on that idea.

  6. These traitors need to be told by the head of the Republican party that when the Republicans win the presidency or the Congress, the same sort of treatment will be meted out eye for an eye: Obama, Pelosi, Reid, even Soros will be tried for treason; Soetoro, et al will be tried for concealing his non-natural born citizenship; and all laws and treaties he signed will be voided.

    Any fatalities caused by their failure to interrogate will cause them to be charged with murder.

  7. It seems to me that prosecuting one’s predecessors in this manner ought to be fair grounds for impeachment. Convincing a majority of CongressCritters of that will be a problem, and unless the president’s own party is part of that, the attempt will be spun as a cover-up. If the media would do its job, people would understand the damage that is done by making it dangerous to hand over the reins of power. But the media won’t. They are not dedicated to the Constitution that defends them, but to the utopian ideals that would shred that very Constitution.

  8. I have to confess to being torn by this issue. As much as I support the means used to try to protect our country from further harm in the hectic and frightening days that followed 9/11, and as much as I despise the willingness of democrats to damage our country in immutable ways (again!) with their politically-inspired antics, I can’t help feeling a little thrill that the duplicitous CIA that waged a secret war of convenient leaks against the Bush administration may get its comeuppance.

    Seeing that malfeasant, disloyal, and disingenuous losers like Pelosi, Feinstein, and Rockefeller may end up being bitten by the tiger they tried to ride is simply icing on the cake.

    Of course, I set all of that aside and strenuously object to Obama’s mealy-mouthed prevaricating and despicable (yet innate, alas) lack of true leadership ability. It is a weak leader indeed that allows the honorable actions taken by those doing their honest best to protect us to be called into question by rabid partisan cowards. In the vernacular, a true leader would crap or get off the pot, one way or the other, and not allow things to fester like this.

  9. It is a weak leader indeed that allows the honorable actions taken by those doing their honest best to protect us to be called into question by rabid partisan cowards.

    But Hogarth, President Obama is a strong leader with unparalleled moral vision. Just ask him. For instance, we can recall

    When Barack Obama met with TV anchors at a White House lunch last week [less than a month and a half on the job – stphnd], he assured them he likes being president. “And it turns out I’m very good at it,” he added.

  10. The Washington Post reports on the debate within Obama’s “inner circle” about whether to release the interrogation details in four top secret memos. According to the Post, by the end it literally was a debate, high school style, with one official selected to argue the “affirmative” and another the “negative.”

    The Post’s report may not be accurate and complete, but if it is, the striking thing about the debate was the absence of any argument in favor of releasing the documents other than partisan gain.

    Powerline: A not so great debate

    I think this marks the most dangerous turning point thus far for the Obama administration. We are all going to reap the whirlwind on this one.

  11. I am surprised that the ABA and other lawyerly groups are not up in arms. If this goes forward it strikes at the heart of the legal profession.

    Hogarth, I don’t believe the targeted lawyers are part of the CIA.

    The chickens are already flying all over the place. This morning it is reported that the UN Grand Poobah for torture stating that the U.S. is REQUIRED by UN convention to prosecute. So if O does not prosecute, he damages our image abroad–heavens! If he does prosecute he will look like a fool at home because he will have a very hard time finding a crime to fit.

    Oh, I forget. It is not his decision; it is up to Holder to decide. Kind of like Slick Willie after Waco. . . (sic)”I don’t know anything about that. You need to talk to Janet Reno”.

    Damage has been done; and it may not be repairable.

    Next we get the photos.

  12. @Neo

    Krugman is ignorant, or at least intellectually dishonest, about economic issues too! He hasn’t done any serious work on Keynesian macroeconomics yet somehow he always argues for its most extreme application.

    The only serious economic work that he’s done has been on trade theory. He’s quite a good trade theorist (which is WHY he won the Nobel, not because of his op-ed columns), but he’s totally dishonest or incompetent when it comes to the domestic economy.

  13. Been waiting for…

    “You can’t HANDLE the truth!!!”

    (Which begs the question, “Where ARE a few good men?”)

    🙂

  14. “I mean look at the picture of that boy smiling and the U.S. agents look so mean. ”

    I think, were I in his shoes, I would be smiling like crazy too.

    First off he lived, those other unlucky bastards didn’t. Secondly the *worst case* is that he is found guilty as an adult and spends the rest of his life in extreme wealth compared to where he was and lives well into his golden years (most likely release from prison to actually live here before then). Worst case is that we set him free in our country (too cruel to send him back). I’m sure his lawyers have informed him of that already.

    If you want to see non-smiles have a guilty verdict remanded back to a Somali prison or even back into a Somali court system.

    I can already tell you that the sympathy given to a young person who is making their way in that hell hole the only way they know how is going to *more* than trump the plight of a cushy westerner who only had his life at risk for a few days (and delivering an Evil(tm) carbon emitting product to boot). Given that it is obvious he is guilty as hell his lawyer will strongly push for that idea too – it’s not his faults, it is societies (while even if it is true – doesn’t that mean he should be cordoned off from us anyway?).

    At worst he will get a wrist slap, made a citizen (Somalia sucks, can’t send him back there you know), and either go on welfare for the rest of his life or revert back to crime enough to finally be jailed for life and still happy at the prospect. My guess is jailed as his first act of piracy/theft worked out so well I suspect he will think his next will too. And then we will wonder what went wrong in that whole chain of events, best if the Republicans are at fault in some way (had they funded prisons better he would be cured).

  15. Well, I’ve already noticed that the internuts are calling the Somali pirate (“boy,” my ass) “that poor, black, Somali teenager just trying to feed his family,” who has been “persecuted” by the evil, rich, white America.

    Re the Dimocrats’ kangaroo courts: I really, really hate those f*cking people. I do. They are so completely off the rails, I don’t even recognize my former party. The Bandar-log are in charge of our country, and God help us.

  16. If America’s soul is to be reclaimed, Paul Krugman won’t be among those doing it. It was Krugman and the rest of MSM who saw to it that Americans never saw their savior for who he was and is. Truth isn’t something they seek; they seek to dismantle the United States, and at whose expense? Much of the process of their dismantling has been more hurtful than a pair of panties on some “freedom fighter’s” head.

    The truth about the terror truth commissions is that George Soros with his legion of loons would get to poke a stick in our nation’s eye once more.

  17. Are Pelosi’s protests not reminescent of the “I would never have voted if I had known….” garbage we heard after no WMD were found in Iraq?

  18. How do we dare try this boy as an adult for piracy?

    Yes, indeed.

    He should have been hung from the yardarm on the Bainbridge. As an example of what happens to pirates we catch.

    But then I’m old school. What would Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson do?

    As for these “truth commissions”, is Obama willing to stand trial should something bad happen under his watch?

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