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  1. NY state has them critters too. we forget that as some species becoeme extinct, others enter new niches. the escape of lion fish has been devastating coastal fish after the hurricane smashed their shoreline tanks.

    the pidgeons of ny arent from ny, the rats arent either. we now have a roach tussel as a chinese breed has been invading what used to be the german cockroaches territory (and yes i am aware that other countries, pick other countries).

    every volcanic island was colonized that way naturally by being carried by the ocean. every new species disrupted the situation till they were there long enough for it to stabilize, then you get a populaiton explosion as the niches are filled.

    kind of funny that the progressives who are so keen on moving forward, attempt to prevent extinctions as if they could. the political system that is coming to dominate doesnt care about nature, nature and other such things is a bougiousie thing. you need to be wealthy enough to be willing to shoulder the higher costs of such luxuries

    we have a kind of short term view, because on the scale with which new species are created and the planets contents evolves, any effort we make is futile. 20 million years from now what will be the case?

  2. Two more bullets and they’ll be together again.

    Where is Mark David Chapman when we really need him?

  3. Neo and others residing in New England:

    Have the gypsy moths gotten under control? I recall years when they DEVASTATED all the trees.

    IIRC, Haavaad is to thank for the importation of the gypsy moth. It got loose from one of their labs.

  4. We had some kind of bark beetle come thru NM. It ate the pinon trees. Killed a whole lot of them. Which gives us good firewood for several years. Pinon smells great as it burns. The upshot is that as the forests recover they will be healthier. They had been protected from the natural fire cycle for 100 years and they were too thick therefore weakened and QED susceptible to the bark beetles. End of the story – the trees died, so did the bark beetles, the trees will come back, the beetles won’t unless the cycle gets repeated. It is called nature, folks.

  5. There are many possible measures less dramatic than chopping down the trees, like breeding the beetles in laboratory and gamma-ray irradiation of males with subsequent release into infested area. Chromosomes of spermatozoids became heavily damaged, so their progeny is infertile. That way the local population can be wiped out completely. Forest administration simply know nothing about genetics.

  6. Occam’s Beard,
    he isnt there because they made a mistake in his cases, and so the thing had to be thrown out. then double jeopardy clause comes in. he also has the weight of the lefts best lawyers and considerations from the beaureaus of other countries.

    on the thing with these beetles. i design new equipment. i am working in my job on the side creating medical solutiosn with the docs where i work. years ago i came up with a way to help with the beetle problem. i heard someone was going to work on something similar, and so i didnt bother. however, one can thread a piezo wire through areas of the tree that bend. this acts as both a power source and a sensor. the syste listens to the tree, and detects the chewing and drilling. it IS possible to hear the little critters chewing away. burst to wifi once in a while reporting status would allow the system to report a tree early on in infection.

    gypsy moths turned out to be less of a problem than we thought. while they did a lot of damage, they werent causing the total denuement that we were warned of. i was in jersey at the time of the largest outbreaks, and it was awful. but few trees died… though the black ugly rings from painting sticky crap on it turned out to look worse.

    in case no one has noticed, the response of the state to this multiplies the harm that this beetle causes. (lots of creatures we do nothing about eat out trunks of trees. carpenter ants, termites, etc). however, find a hole in a tree large enough, and the humans in conjunction with the beetle will cut it down!!! would a single beetle be able to do that to a tree on its own?

    in the effort to eradicate the ineradicatable, they are denuding the area of what trees we have wholesale.

    what they want is to preserve everything statically!!!

    under normal circumstances, these beetles would denude the trees, the trees would die, the beetles would die, and the trees would come back in 500 years. how do you think they survived the past 300 million?

    its just that we dont like not having them around for a while…

    the way they look at this is a clear peek into the fact that these people are the opposite of visionaries (pretending their nearsighted shortsigtedness is visionary).

    but take polution… within 100 years, the easiest place to mine for raw materials will be a garbage dump!!! we are already developing technology to do that as part of the reclamation effort, since reclamed metal is cheaper than mining ore.

    we are so worried about scarring an earth that wont rememver us past a 100k years, let alone geoogical time… meanwhile, we have whole planets to play with!!! we have already contaminated mars. some day, we will make things that pollute horribly in space… and vent the stuff as molecular gas to be swept away by the solar wind… (of course they will claim that we are littering the universe!)

    invasive species are a problem… why? because the conservatives want to progress slowly, and the marxists are mega conservatives who are so much against change, that such things scare the pants off of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    think about it. a central planned economy cant afford random acts of God! so all their efforts are to stagnate us, and theoretically in a confucian way, create a means to a command economy. think logans run… fixed population, fixed use of materials… we know what we need because over time, we learn what we need… however for such to work (And why i call it confucian), is that the whole place has to stagnate and fixate to one fixed stasis… no new anything. social justice means if you invent a cure for diabedes, or a way to get rid of this bug, we are not allowed to make it since we incure a huge social justice cost for not being able to provide it to everyone equally! so right there is the mechanism to stop new inventiosn from coming into the pipeline.. the greenies are trying to command nature to stop darwin… the people are being homogenized through screwing their birth selections (indiscriminate births built on physical attraction will homogenize us back to somethign like horses, rather than individuals like we are now). no new energy… limiting the source of the move and ability to progress (no energy, no progress, too little energy, we regress back as we cant maintain things).

    their goals are contradictory… since a one world government would create even more of this kind of CHANGE…

  7. i hate wordpress filters… big time..

    if you know big words, like suma cum laude, they think your a pervert since the word cum is in it.

  8. you put down scientific names of beasties, and they think your talking dirty…

    i cut down the list

    oak splendour beetle
    old world bollworm, cotton bollworm
    olive fruit fly
    orange spiny whitefly
    oriental chestnut gall wasp
    oriental fruit fly
    oriental fruit moth
    palm thrips
    papaya mealybug
    passionvine mealybug
    peach fruit fly
    peach fruit moth
    pear leaf blister moth
    pecan weevil
    pine beauty moth
    pine caterpillar
    pine flat bug
    pine processionary moth
    pine shoot beetle
    Pine-tree lappet
    pink bollworm
    pink hibiscus mealybug
    plum curculio
    plum fruit moth
    poplar long-horned beetle
    potato psyllid
    prickly pear moth
    Queensland fruit fly
    red imported fire ant
    redbay ambrosia beetle
    rice leafhopper
    rice stinkbug
    rosy gypsy moth
    Russian wheat aphid
    rustic borer
    rutherglen bug
    satin moth
    seed worms
    Siberian silk moth
    silverleaf whitefly
    silvery moth
    Sirex woodwasp
    Siricid woodwasps
    six-spined engraver beetle
    six-toothed spruce bark beetle
    small hive beetle
    small poplar borer
    small spruce fly
    small white-marmorated long-horned beetle
    soft wax scale
    South African carnation tortrix
    South African citrus thrips
    southern corn rootworm
    soybean aphid
    spiny caterpillar
    strawberry tortrix
    straw-colored tortrix moth
    summer fruit tortrix moth
    sunn pest
    swede midge
    sweetpotato weevil
    tomato looper
    turnip moth
    two-toothed pine beetle
    viburnum leaf beetle
    vine borer
    violet tanbark beetle
    Virginiacreeper leafhopper
    west indian powderpost drywood termite
    western corn rootworm
    wheat bug
    white stem borer
    winter moth
    wood borer of coigue

    do you think we will actually get control of all those?
    and thats just the worst insects… not all of them…

    why are the people voting for change not liking change?

    Constant change is the way it always is.. their desire to stop it, and make the halt of it appear as change is amazing…

    the issue is change with concordance to the progress of the past, which moves us forward. or change without such, which is akin to random action, which does the opposite, resets the maching by shuffling the progress of the past back to nothing.
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  9. Now Neo… As a fellow New Englander you know transplanted species very rarely survive the New England winter. 😉

    I’ve been here 27 years and still barely make it to April. My daughter’s high school soccer game last night had a 3-4 minute snow squall pass through (CT!) Just New England’s way of making sure we don’t get too comfortable.

  10. There are many possible measures less dramatic than chopping down the trees, like breeding the beetles in laboratory and gamma-ray irradiation of males with subsequent release into infested area. Chromosomes of spermatozoids became heavily damaged, so their progeny is infertile. That way the local population can be wiped out completely.

    I think this must be what happened to liberals in the Bay Area. /g

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