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  1. I think it is because all our World Wars are linked together. WWI is linked to WWII, and WWII set the conditions of the Cold War, and the Cold War AND WWII set the conditions for the War on Terror.

  2. neuroconservative,

    I asked my mother who is of the WW2 generation (my father faced the kamikazes in a oil tanker off Okinawa) if she had heard of Haj Amin Hussein, the Mufti of Jerusalem.

    I put the question to her about a week ago.

    She said, “Of course”. Yet I was never taught about that episode in WW2 when I was growing up in the 50s.

    It wasn’t in our history books. It was not taught in the Jewish schools I went to. Never mentioned in sermons. etc.

    Until I looked it up about a year ago, I was ignorant.

    There are huge holes in what we know that would go a long way towards explaining the world we live in today. i.e. why the Palistinians deny the Holocaust and at the same time wish Hitler had done a better job.

  3. It’s always strange to read something that prescient — rather like the first time one reads de Tocqueville, or some of Churchill’s writings. I read your post on the same day that I read a review about the U.N. in its present incarnation, and ended up writing about your post and the book review here. Thanks, as always, for something thought-provoking.

  4. Those with an excess of self-esteem, who lash out at a world which does not overvalue them as they overvalue themselves —

    Once it has sunk in that nations and movements can be personality disordered, it is actually a short step to rethinking what should be done with them. The Islamofascist groups, and to a lesser extent the governments which encourage them, are antisocial personality disordered. Of course they blame everyone but themselves — that’s a standard symptom. To give credence to their elaborate grudges against everyone else is to feed into them. Western liberals sound frighteningly like the wives and mothers of the antisocial males on my caseload — especially if they are the very females who have been beaten. “He doesn’t like to be told what to do, and the police were in his face…His father used to beat him, and he’s still angry about that.” My personal favorite is “He has all this anger inside him that he needs to get out.” No, he’s pretty damn good at getting it out. It’s keeping it in we’d like him to work on. The excuse-making on the part of others, the granting of legitimacy to minor complaints — how different is this from the excuses liberals make for belligerent nations? Like the abused wives, they would far rather believe that the police were too rough or that the system has failed their man. “He needs therapy. He says he’s not getting any therapy there. Does anyone sit down and talk with him about why he’s so angry?”
    If only we’d had dinner on the table in time, 9/11 would never have happened.

  5. Via Solomonia, The Second Draft, a new site which has some revealing downloads concerning the Palestinians and the media.

    Also, from Gellhorn, a ’59 quote concerning journalism:

    “Serious, careful, honest journalism is essential, not because it is a guiding light but because it is a form of honorable behavior, involving the reporter and the reader.”

    “Honorable behavior, involving the reporter and the reader,” requires a healthy degree of self-effacement and modesty on the part of the journalist. A stark contrast with what is more typically promulgated via the MSM and rationalized by the ideological left.

    Hattip for the Gellhorn quote to Eamonn Fitzgerald’s Rainy Day.

  6. Poor, poor Israel, the Jewish victim no one cares about.Those misfortunate, oppressed people with their nuclear weapons, their powerful military, their billions in US support, gee, I feel so sorry for them as they struggle to complete their colonizing and wall building.

    The left have no sympathy, no compassion, they are heartless individuals looking only for people that they can make into victims to better control them.

    Anyone not on their side, can easily be strung up and hanged on a bridge, either with men in white hoods or black hoods, doesn’t really matter to them. After all, why should the Left care when the victims are fighting back by doing the Lefty’s dirty work for them?

    History has always been about the pawns and the powerbrokers, and the pawns are the victimized and the stupid, and the powerbrokers control the pawns and make them do their dirty work, which is the continual oppression of the pawns. Empty Slogans have been an excellent way to do so, Vive Le Palestine. The French should know, they’re experts in coming up with empty slogans.

    People on the Left don’t regret feeling anything but hate for Israel, because the Jews usually aren’t the ones to make the prejudiced and hate filled individuals regret their actions. The United States has always fullfilled that role.

    How it shall be sweet when the world regrets their wrongful actions, when the sword of Damocles cleaves their hands and heads apart.

  7. Is it possible that the majority of Palestinians possess a far greater hatred of the Jews than the Germans during the Nazi era. We must never forget that Hitler’s thugs hid the existence of the concentration camps from the typical Aryan German. You had to be either a member of the hardcore Nazi Party or particularly astute to know that mass killing was occurring. Even the most rabid Nazis did not provide their young children with toy suicide belts. Nihilism underpins the social fabric of the Palestinians. Political agreements are worthless. Their top leaders must be either killed or jailed. Nothing short of that goal is worth talking about.

  8. Gellhorn was a very perceptive writer and a wise observer of the scene at that time pertinent to Palestinians and jews. Arabs do gorge on their hate of Israel and Jews and historical events prove it. It has only gotten worse in the Middle East since Ms. Gellhorn recorded her observations.

  9. What’s so upsetting to me is the number of people who would be surprised upon reading this and knowing that so many people… otherwise intelligent people… would/will simply dismiss it… brush it aside with no comment nor any further thought.

    Maybe a mind or two will be opened by reading it, we can only hope.

  10. Troutsky, did you actually read the post you were responding to? Nothing in your nasty little comment suggests that, if you did, you comprehended a word of it.

    Meander, I’m with you. It’s one of the most bitterly depressing pieces of writing I’ve ever encountered.

  11. This is deeply chilling stuff to me — especially in light of the recent Israeli pullout (and ensuing gleeful burning of synagogues, etc. that you discussed earlier) Are we witnessing the “admission of a fatal locust swarm of enemies” that Gellhorn referred to? *sigh*

  12. Great find, neo! Truly gives the lie to the notion that removing “the settlers” and the “humiliating” “occupation” would solve the “problem.” One of these days, I might get around to compiling a catalogue of such examples of the historical absent-mindedness of left-wing platitudes. In fact, the modern Palestinian Arab identity was forged by Hitler’s acolyte, the Mufti of Jerusalem. How many Americans, even American Jews, have even heard of him?

  13. Poor, poor Israel, the Jewish victim no one cares about.Those misfortunate, oppressed people with their nuclear weapons, their powerful military, their billions in US support, gee, I feel so sorry for them as they struggle to complete their colonizing and wall building. They just want to “get along” with their Palestinian niggers, oops, I mean neighbors. And treat them equally like we do the blacks in america.

    meander wants the Mideast to “think of life in a different way”. meander needs to study the history of this region and then could possibly understand their “thinking”.

  14. Meander –

    You want depression, you can go back to De Bello Judaico, written about 2000 years ago. Josephus said the same things Gellhorn said, that neo-neocon says.

  15. But it’s still not too late to make it very clear–if only the world agreed to do so.

    Ah, there’s the rub: if only the world agreed to do so.

    I’ve thought for some time now that the Arabs have believed that Europe is in their corner — that Europe would help them realize their dream of destroying Israel. And I think (especially since the oil crisis in the late 1970s) that they’ve got pretty good reason to think this.

    Do you remember Daniel Bernard, the French ambassador to England, who a few years ago referred to Israel at a London dinner party as “a shitty little country”?

    Thanks for another terrific post, neo-neocon.

  16. This is one of the most profoundly depressing things I have ever read. The Western world should be doing everything possible to help ensure the success of Iraq’s attempt at democracy. It seems like a thriving, empowered democratic Iraq could be the inspiration the Mideast needs to think about life in a different way. Otherwise…what on earth will ever change things for the better. To raise children on a mantra of mindless hatred is just mindboggling to me.

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