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  1. Hi, I was surfing the internet and came across your blog. I’m quite impressed , with how it makes such good reading.

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  3. If you like old movies (Doris Day and Clark Gable, 1958) watch Teacher’s Pet which is stil pretty spot on about the issues of journalism. Gable is a hard nosed city desk editor who tangles with a j-school professor (Day) regarding issues of the craft/profession. Gig Young is hillarious in a supporting role.

  4. You want to understand the press, “follow the money.” It’s all about profit, that great American tradition. Enron? Worldcom? Halliburton? NY Times? USA Today? Fox News? Come on, they’re just trying to make a buck. Or should I say bucks, lots of them.

  5. This is the problem, at this point we don’t have a free press we have a censor news press.

    Susan

  6. To me, one of the really sad things is that even though I know this, have known it since I began trying to form my political opinions in high school (12 years ago), I still take some of thier reports at face value.

    Like others have said, there have been subjects that I could be nominally classified as an expert in (sadly, writing is not one of them), in every single one – even when I add a new one – the news has rarely been anywhere close to factually accurate let alone on thier analysis. Though I don’t think it is intentional in most cases (not sure which is more sad, incompetance or dishonesty).

    Yet, I find my self buying some of what they say. For instance I happly watch(ed) reports on wasted money in research. One I know of (in my last job I knew some of the principle researchers) was a study to figure out why a shower curtain blows inwards during a shower instead of outwards. Models showed it would do other wise (I am a computer scientist, I knew them through my work in high performance computing). They figured it out and in fluid dynamics it was pretty important and revolutionary. From just the description of “We now know why a shower curtain billows inwards” it is worthless. A headline “200k of research funding saves airlines billions and will lead to a 10% increase in car fuel efficiency” is worth quite a bit more. Both are factually accurate, though thier analysis kinda left off what this meant to fluid dynamics. I’ve always wondered if the study of the flow of ketsup had other such application. OTOH I have seen worthless well known research projects. The principle researchers would even generally admit to such.

    *sigh* I now try to not particularly believe or disbileave anything they say – even factual information (X number of items occured, so-and-so died – they have been wrong on all of those). I try and file it under “unproved, don’t use without further research” when using the info, if I find something interesting I tend to do more research. As others have said, the internet has really facilitated this, before I tried to not use them to form my opinions, though that is hard to do when they are your only source of information.

  7. Most Journalism schools adopted the Dan Rather ‘to change the world’ ideology. Any wonder why myopic mainstream journalism would rather defend ‘fake but accurate’ than simply present an objective report.

    Most American journalists believe that their agenda justifies their words regardless of the facts.

    Case in point, the American public is force-fed insignificant Cindy Sheehan while left unaware of significant events such as Air America ripping-off humanitarian organization GLORIA or the even greater significant event ABLE DANGER. These events do not reflect MSM’s ‘change the world’ agenda so they are buried.

    “Bloggers as watch-dogs’ is not only a positive development but is saving our lives and our freedoms.

    Susan

  8. > I have found is that there’s a growing clamor in journalism education to actually insist that young journalists develop such a body of knowledge and an expertise in something other than the craft of writing itself.

    Gosh, that almost sounds like the equally liberally-dominated career of education

    You mean people might need to know something outside of a narrow range in order to be actually good at something? Naaaw. Can’t be.

    Experience? Breadth of knowledge? Ahhh, those things are useless!!

  9. > And, although their fact-checking system may be flawed, at least magazines have fact-checking. Newspapers don’t, at least not formally; the pressure to get the copy out quickly is much too great.

    This is insufficient excuse in the modern era. With the internet available, any moderately large newspaper could afford to have a person on staff full time to do fact checking on stories as they come in and are selected for consideration. Such person would have a connection to the net, including Lexis/Nexus, and could at least search for gross errors, and, in the aftermath, recheck for more serious ones for the purpose of properly quick retractions even without being prompted by the maligned.

    I think the real fact is that most newspapers have little commitment to The Truth as an entity.

    This has as much to do with the modern degree of moral relativity our society (via liberals) has adapted, which casts all notions of an Absolute Truth in doubt — regardless of the obviousness of its existence (short of presuming a Matrix-style existence, anyway).

    Newspaper Editors (almost all of them far left liberals) have no belief in said Real Truth any longer, and so facts don’t matter as much as not getting in trouble… as long as a story won’t get them in trouble, they’ll run it with the unvarnished presumption of correctness/appropriateness of a church bulletin editor handed something by the pastor.

  10. I worked at a state agency for over 25 years, an institution that occasionally landed in the news. I never read a newspaper article of any length concerning us that didn’t contain inaccuracies. I am not exaggerating. We used to laugh & wonder at the misinformation they published about us. I’m sure other ex-bureaucrats could relate similar anecdotes. I suspect that much of the time it was ineptitude but sometimes it was seemed that the article was hostile or that our agency was simply being used to make a point — or both.

    My city has one major newspaper, which is a bit like a baseball pitcher having one eye. Not a lot of strikes are thrown, but instead mostly advertiser-serving balls are floated around home plate & the powers that be are walked around the bases for easy runs. Without a competing paper there’s nothing to keep the system honest. We used to have two newspapers but the San Antonio Express & News purchased the San Antonio Light & shut it down.

    I am against a shield law for the press. I just can’t stand the thought of MSM hacks totally getting away with slime; the present hypocrisies are bad enough — a shield law would only multiply them.

    I’m also against any legislation to bring bloggers under the campaign finance laws or any legislation designed to curtail blogs in any manner. The Swift Boat Veterans blog made the liberals really angry & I think the idea of blogs scare a lot of folks in DC on both sides of the aisle. If the blogs were gagged there would be no more Dan Rather/forged documents types of expose. The blog aggregate is like a giant compound eye that sees everything from every conceivable viewpoint & represents a entirely new type of wildcat journalism that if left as is will serve & is serving as healthy counterpoint to the self-serving morass that is today’s mainstream news. We cant expect the MSM to take this subversive(by their view) situation lying down & they are already enlisting politicians in an effort to marginalize that part of the blogosphere that is political.

  11. Unfortunatly journalism, and television reporting have become nothing more than a buisiness and money can buy anything. Even mainstream news and media broadcasts from the most trusted news sources can be scripted to construct public opinions.
    As of late I’ve come to think of it as the Media Matrix.
    The Origional Radio Broadcast of “War of the Worlds” is undeniable truth that people will believe anything trusted media source presents them with no matter how insaine.
    There for public opinion can be manipulated through government control and cencorship of popular media and information.
    Great blog, investigative reporting about inestigative reporting: I love it.

  12. I can think of four subjects that I have or had special expertise in, and in all four cases the inaccuracies in relevant newspaper reports were huge, even untruthful.

    Why do I read the newspaper? I skim it to find the general issues of the day (as defined by the MSM) and once in a while learn something interesting about places to go, movies to see, some new fashion I might not have noticed, etc. Basically, trivia stuff.

    If the internet had existed during the Vietnam War, I probably would have become a neocon thirty years ago. Like you, I followed the well-worn rutted tire tracks of liberalism until 9/11, and then the net gave me a fresh look at the world.

    I think we can assume that most journalists will continue to write garbage since they can’t or won’t take the time to learn about their subjects. There will always be a few exceptions, but mediocrity and error will probably always be the rule. It’s up to the blogosphere to “deconstruct” the omissions and lies–as is being done with Able Danger this week.

  13. journalists as “neutral” (a concept!) has certainly been re-re-re-exposed post-9/11, post-Afghanistan, post-Iraq. I say as a 27-yr old ex-left pro-regime change Brit, outraged, shocked and insulted by the self-proclaimed “impartial” BBC, who failed to even mention the great success of the Afghanistan election. I spat venom that week, and it scarred my lips. I was not happy.

    Nevermind past heroes, such as Seymour Hersh. This isn’t even “going to the other side”; they’ve lost judgement here. So many have, and it’s depressing. It’s bad and it’s flawed and it’s fucked up and etc.

    Love your blog neo-neocon. Consider me an ally, from across the pond (veteran of Oona King’s doomed campaign against George Galloway, Labour Friends of Iraq activist, and blogger: worldwarfour.blogspot.com)

    Keeping it real, as they say.

  14. This is new? What about the Spanish American War, Hearst and Pulitzer? Ever see the old movie with Cary Grant, The Frontpage? The newspapers have been full of bunkum forever. And once you’ve noticed the inaccuracy in reports about subjects you know, why did you assume that other reports were accurate? Should have been a tip-off.

  15. “need to study media ethics, law, history, global communications, and theory”…what exactly does “theory” mean when disconnected from any specific discipline? And what do they mean by “global communications”? Somehow, I suspect they’re not talking about Dense Wave Division Multiplexing and IP Voice technologiesd…

  16. Many years ago I had a family member involved in a very dramatic occurrance. It was front page fodder for the big Philadelphia papers for a couple of weeks. Reporters called our house to get background info and facts on the family member from my mother. It fascinated us to read the subsequent stories and see how much incorrect info they contained that related directly to what my mom was interviewed about. The “reporting” was well written and gripping…just not totally accurate. For some reason, I never applied that personal experience to national and world news reporting until the age of the internet and information laden blogs.

  17. It’s not just in journalism that the Fast-track is a risk. Look at the batch of young CEO’s that crashed and burned (in this case early to mid 40’s in age). Now the trend is older CEO’s to take advantage of experience. The key is not age, but if valuable time in the trenches was bypassed.

  18. There also has to be a demand from the editors for journalists who actually know something other than the art of writing. There are good reasons and bad reasons why this doesn’t happen. One good reason is because those who write about subjects they know may not be proficient at communicating this to a lay readership. Two bad reasons: (1) knowledgable folk demand more money than those who can spell and write, and (2)such “knowing” reporters are a threat to the jobs of reporters already working the same beat.

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