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  1. The Fall of the Soviet Union was indeed puzzling. I am puzzled to this day. I expected the USSR to fade slowly over the next 100 years, unless something terrible and unexpected happened to the US.

    Maybe the secret of the whole thing is that the US bribed Gorbachov with a billion dollars to shut it down.

    The importance of 9/11 isn’t the people killed, so to speak. The US loses more people each year to traffic accidents than were lost that one day. It’s that the war with the Islamists has the potential to go on and kill a lot more. And to destroy important parts of Western Civilization. The US is very strong.

    Still, we must remember the US would win over al-Queda even if the US did nothing for 10 years after 9/11. Not that that would be the best plan…

  2. The pear and the tank, sort of a variation on “can’t see the forest for the trees.”

    Regarding prognostications about the fall of the Soviet Union. I recall articles in US News and World Report in the early 80’s suggesting severe calamity in the Soviet Union due to economic collapse, but dismissed them.

    When I was at Columbia University near the end of the decade studying national security topics the Soviet specialists like Legvold were all in thrall of the charm of Gorbachev and perestroika. I don’t recall any of the discussions taking place at that time hinting at the complete dissolution of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact.

    I would say that Reagan was like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz in only one sense. He DID throw the bucket of water. But unlike Dorothy, Reagan knew that his policy of throwing cold water on the cold war was the only way to bring about a more positive outcome.

  3. Whitaker Chambers spelled it out beautifully in his book titled, Witness. I had never given him to much thought till I read this quote, that I did not know at the time I first read the quote, was taken from an introductory letter in his book Witness.

    The quote from the book first published over fifty years ago, “Man without God is a beast, and never more beastly than when he is most intelligent about his beastliness.” –Whittaker Chambers

  4. Great post NeoNeo,
    Having grown up post Boomer, born in 58, my backyard neighbor was a reclusive old coot, he and his wife. I was afraid of him even though he never did anything threatening. Roumer had it he was from a country then called Czechslovakia and had been a POW. Well, one day he stopped me offering a lemonade. Putting down my fear I accepted.
    It turned out that Mr. Kovac had been a POW but not captured by the Americans but by the Soviets. Over time I learned of his trial in life. He had been trained to the east in a cattle car to Kazakstan, it took him over two years to learn where he actually was as his train never stopped and was completely enclosed. When they arrived they took out those who survived the ordeal, gave them their first water and then had them immediatly bury those who died on the trip. Tough learning for a tike of 10 years.
    From tht I took up Ellie Wiesel’s works and learned more. During this era my older sibs took off to University. Growing up in Michigan at the time we had a wonderful group of future LIBERALS with the SDS, Port Huron accord etc. Lots of campus demos and riots, the burning of Detroit (I remember my father taking me out to the front yard and pointing to the glow on the clouds at night which was the reflected light of the riots) and big brother coming home telling of anti-war demonstrations. heady times. Then the S*^% hit the fan. The draft lottery for Vietnam. My big brother won. His birthdate was number 5 and he would go.
    Dad, a Repulican told the family that he would support big bro should he choose to go across the border to Canada. It was the hardest thing my father ever did. We all supported father. Big bro it turns out was red/green color blind and had a heart murmur that precluded his inclusion in the military. He lucked out in a way.
    Where is this going? Toward the fact that despite living in a big L liberal (Adam Smith et al) family and having older small l (Chomsky et al) siblings that I looked up to I was a Conservative going into college.
    College was Jeeemy. College was Iran hostage crisis. College was politicized Iranians protesting the Shah and Savak. Speaking to the Iranians on campus they were also Socialists, Communists, Religous Koran quoters and all of their ilk. Hirsi Alis book was a big huge letdown for me, she was and is a committed soicalist. You know the type, they always have an opinion on how to correct my life if only I will give up part of my freedom for the greater good. Or as Derbyshire would say “For the Children….and then grab your wallet and run”.
    During the 80’s I took to studying the USSR, how could so few people control so many in such a evil way for such evil results? In NY at that time there was a great scholar of the Soviets, Stephen Cohen of Princeton. It turned out he was a hack and apologist for anything Communist, but every utterance was reprinted with great praise in the NYT. that was my first inkling that the Media was not to be trusted.
    I learned the Russian language enough to go see for myself. What I found was a country that made Mexico look wealthy and efficient.
    In the end, I guess I never got my Liberal stage, robbed by history.

  5. Great essay! I always enjoy finding others who’ve taken a similar intellectual/emotional journey, especially fellow New Englanders, for whom declaring that one is a leper or pedophile is likely to garner more sympathy. I think as much has been going on externally, (e.g., Zell Miller’s point – that the Democratic Party left him while he stayed in place. ) But like two trains on opposite tracks, the internal sense of motion and dislocation is the same whether one or both are moving relative to one another.

  6. Jamie

    My sympathies, I truly understand your situation. I am not a psychiatrist though I have seen one… :^)

    neo-neocon

    Sounds like you were less political than I but growing up “inside the beltway” does have it’s own effects. Great posting and glad you are paying attention these days.

    By the way Reagan was definately not Dorothy but rather more the like the apparent bumbling Wizard who really was all powerful in that he ended up displaying more wisdom and ability to effect outcomes more then most could have imagined at the time. I’ll repeat it one more time, not supporting Reagan is my greatest political regret.

  7. Great article, Neo.

    We must be exact contemporaries, we are in roughly the same field (I am a psychiatrist), and our political paths have followed the same trajectory.

    Thank you for doing the work of figuring all of this out for me!

    😉

    The most painful thing you have touched on is the isolation from former friends. Last Sunday I was invited to a poetry reading of a couple of friends at Cody’s Bookstore in Berkeley; one of the friends I hadn’t seeen since the late eighties.

    I knew that at the reading there would be some demeaning reference to the “stupid” Bush, to the “evil” Republicans, and some blather about how going into Iraq was based on a lie, and so on…

    I decided not to go so I could remember my friends as they were, and still love them.

    Jamie Irons

  8. Thanks for the Dutton link on Posner. I deflected from your post to Read The Whole Thing.

    Your series is gripping and fascinating; as a first-year Boomer (’46), I shared most of your timeline. But I never drank all that deeply of either flavor of KoolAid.

    So it will be very interesting to see how you deal with some of the issues that also moved me off center.

  9. I had decided in my late teens that almost every grown up had stopped thinking around the age of 25 — all their opinions were formed for life. I did not want that to happen to me, and indeed, I switched from Democrat to Independent in my 30s and voted for Reagan (I couldn’t explain away Carter’s failings or the Boat People, so I went through the agony of rethinking my politics).

    I even voted for Clinton in ’92 because I thought he could take the Dems out of the lunacy of the hard left and put them more in the center.

    But, I see no redeeming values in any on the left today. Their focus is on defeating Bush and the Reps, not on protecting America and Western civilization. They may have won their last presidential election and be on a pretty steep slope to oblivion.

  10. Those that think for themselves are not that common these days. The pressure to divest yourself of reason in order to fit more comfortably in the modern mozaic of American culture results in a form of self censorship for the sake of sameness.
    It hasn’t always been this way and many Democrats in the past have understood the dangers America faced and accepted the responsability of acting to thwart our enemies.

    It’s a shame we have enemies, it’s a shame we can’t all think alike and it’s a shame we have to get up and take action every once in a while that will certainly result in human suffering for the survival of certain ideals like freedom and choice and liberty.

    Good job, thanks.

  11. I too am about a decade behind you, Neo-Neo, but what you say (and the way you say it) certainly strike chord. Had I been old enough to be aware of the sixities I grew up in, I may have had a more difficult time in my conversion from knee-jerk liberalism to independent introspectionist/realist. I too was mugged by reality on 9/11, as were many of those that helped put and keep GW in office.

    I find it particularly interesting and satisfying that the shots fired by The Tank on that clear September day will go down in history as the “beginning of the end” of the Islamo-fascist scourge, and that the reason for that being so is that it permanently shook the West (or enough of it in any case) out of its slumber.

    Also, as I read your description of the 70’s attitude I couldn’t help but think that it was well summed up by the line from Jesus Christ Superstar (written in 1969 no less), where Judas chastizes Jesus for “wasting” money on material comforts and Jesus responds: “There will be poor always, pathetically struggling….Look at the GOOD things you’ve got!”

    I look forward to your book.

    Happy INDEPENDENCE Day to all,
    Bruce Wechsler

  12. The quarter-century you just summed up seems in hindsight a relatively undramatic one to me as well (though I was a child, and thus relatively unaware of political events, for the first decade or so). Other than the ever-present background danger of a nuclear exchange with the Soviets, it seems there weren’t many imminent threats we faced during that span of time, at least not on our own soil.

    The event that loomed largest for me was the collapse of the USSR and concommitant liberation of its satellite republics. Having been aware of the repression that existed within the Soviet Union (c.f. Solzhenitsyn et. al.), and having seen firsthand the suffocating real-world effects of Soviet communism during a 1986 visit with relatives in then-Czechoslovakia, I greeted this as generally good news for everyone (though certainly there would be real challenges ahead). The consensus around me seemed to be that this was in fact a good thing that had happened — a condition that left me completely unprepared for the shock I was to receive years later, on learning that Marxism and its derivatives were alive and well in American academia.

    I’m looking forward to hearing more about your experiences adjusting in the post-9/11 present, and the challenges you’ve faced as you’ve found yourself diverging from the dominant ways of thinking that surround you. (Assuming you feel inclined to write about that next!) I know from my experience (which I hope to get around to blogging about in the near future) that having such political differences has the potential to be very isolating, particularly when those around you feel free to express their convictions in social settings based on the seeming assumption that everyone else must naturally think as they do. It takes a determined effort sometimes, for me at least, to overcome the frequently-reinforced fear of discomfort and go out and meet people and socialize anyway!

    Thanks, Neo, for sharing another fine and thoughtful piece of work. As “snedwords” said so fittingly, this is good therapy for us, and I hope it is for you too! Best wishes.

  13. Someone at 1:51 p.m. –

    If Neo was getting her external political input from TV, the NY Times, and the New Yorker, just what kind of perceptions could she have had of Reagan?

    Amiable, homophobic, trigger happy, washed up actor managed by dark cabals of corporate masters and Jesus freaks might come pretty close to the mark – but I may be presuming too much here.

    On “tribalism” –

    I think there is another explanation for passionate involvement in politics by citizens – especially of the conservative stripe, like me.

    It’s THE way that problems are solved. Merely winning elections in no way confers legitimacy on my personal political goals; winning is necessary to see the solutions I support implemented.

    If the problems I seek to address are adequately dealt with (economy, environment, education, security, entitlements, etc, etc,) by the candidates I supported, partisan affiliations are reduced to organizational constructs.

    It so happens that of the two major national parties I have to pick from, only one retains a vestige of commitment to the higher duty to the nation than to itself.

    Note I said “vestige”. Appartchiks like the McCains, Harkins, Snows, and Voinavichs are as fully involved with their own self-aggrandaizment and nest-feathering exclusive of external obligations as are any of the Pelosis, Clintons, Rangels, and Conyers of the Left. The issue is that nakedly seeking personal power among Republicans is celebrated as ‘moderation’ and is NEVER even raised where Democrats are concerned.

    The operative media template for covering politics denies duty, honor, or commitment to constitutional principles as primary motivations for any government service. Those old-fashioned, hackneyed terms are for Boy Scouts, not for the bad boys of the Beltway.

    Thus are conservatives with any vestigal religious/spiritual credentials, or publicly avowed intentions to govern within literal constitutional limits dismissed out of hand, while ridiculous labels like “reality based” are accepted without a blink, even when applied to a party that has consistently failed to remedy any “cause” it has purported to embrace, from racial tension to economic disparity to national security.

    Politics in a democracy should be a tool to achieve practical solutions within a community. It is not a process by which truth or right is measured; not nearly. The rise of the professional political class is always an unavoidable result of people gravitating to what they are good at doing. The key is to remember that at least in this country idealogues and agendas face constitutional limits within the halls of government, and citizens can act via elections to curb excesses, too.

    Claiming the high ground based on good intentions , demanding respect for ideas that consistently fail to work, and reflexively falling back on ad hominem attacks when questioned are the hallmarks of our remaining liberal tribe. People who point that out become the targets of the full force of media outrage and establishment disdain…

    which is exactly why Rush Limbaugh is labeled a kook on Monday and granted the mantle of Controller of the VRWC on Tuesday, over and over and over again.

    The liberals presume to speak for the majority of Americans. Funny thing, that; they can’t seem to win national elections or even run a profitable radio show with that kind of support.

    People are trying to kill my family. The enemy has published his grievances (barbarism leavened with theocratic fanaticism), his intentions (the end of Western secular civilization), and acted forcefully to enact his agenda.

    Which of our parties is more concerned with confronting and defeating the threat? Which is transparently trying to use the risks and costs of confrontation for their own political ends?

    I won’t even go into which party is demonstrating faith in individual liberty and rule of law as valid strategies against tyranny.

    The decline of Democrat/liberal/progressive fortunes has not been the result of chessboard manuevering between patricians. It is the objective result of individuals weighing in on the effectiveness of the parties involved to address the issues important to them.

    I predict that the 2006 elections will go even worse for the Democrats than did the 2002 midterms. And the media and pop elite will be just as surprised as they were in 1989.

  14. Thanks Neo for another wonderful post.

    Anonymous 11:05 AM,

    Thank you for a matching post.

    I agree with your perception of the political intellectuals, but I would couch the story in different language. Most people are searching for meaning in their lives, it’s a fundamental human need. Many intellectuals, particularly of the Sixties generation, came to find meaning through the particular lens of political action. They were going to “reform the system” or “change the world”. Somehow that seemed to make sense during the Sixties. The Sixties seemed so wonderful and everything seemed to be going so well. We solved the civil rights problem. We made big money. We even put men on the moon. Rockets were blazing, skirts were rising, and it seemed that nothing could stop the steady rise of American progress and liberalism.

    Our ignominious retreat from Vietnam and the deadly consequences for the people of SE Asia changed that perception.

    It’s ultimately an unfixable world, and those who sought meaning through political action alone have come to learn that the political soup is pretty thin spiritual gruel. The gradual but unavoidable sellouts necessary eat away the soul till there is nothing left and only the raw quest for power remains. Those who retain any integrity will leave before they sink to that level.

    The crisis of our times is a religious crisis. The 9/11 attacks have starkly highlighted the emptiness of the religion of the New Left. It has left many of its believers in such an awkward position that they are now opposed to the very things they originally set out to create. How very pathetic. It must be humiliating for many of them to have to look in the mirror these days.

    I’m a great fan of Nietzsche, but he was wrong about God. God was never dead; we just have to look elsewhere to find Him.
    Personally I find bits of God all over the place. On this blog for example.

    Ruth H.,

    I am proud to remain a liberal. Being from Kansas, I have no trouble being a liberal while voting for a Republican and being pro-American. I continue to believe the United States is the last best hope for mankind and for liberalism.

    But I refuse to join either political party.

    One thing that fascinates me in the post-Vietnam demise of this country is the way in which “liberalism” gradually slid into the new religion of anti-Americanism. Been there done that, but now I’ve moved beyond it. What’s more liberal I ask, Zimbabwe under Mugabe? Corrupt Canada? I’m eagerly awaiting some posts on this transition from Neo.

  15. Thanks neo, for another excellent piece. I feel the need these days for constant historical reference, both generally and personally.
    Past events keeps spinning around, diminishing or increasing in relevance. Certainly we can’t change the past, but we can enhance our perception of it. Thanks for sharing some insight into your evolving self.

  16. May I just say that you are a fresh breath of air?

    As we age, life provides numerous wake-up calls– and some have the wisdom to stop, reflect, and reassess what they “know” to be true. Is it wisdom or mere exhaustion to arrive at the place where you know nothing?

  17. Beautifully written. I liked your use of the Pears/Tanks from Kundera.

    I reread Esmay’s post, and I’m missing the perceived outrageous slight to anonymous, but I probably need to be spoon fed too.

  18. Dean Esmay:

    I’m the “Anonymous” you responded to so rudely and with so little understanding of me or of what my previous post was arguing for. Your attitude is a case in point of the kind of thoughtlessness I was talking about.

    For your information, I am far from a sociopath, being as I am a member of many social spheres, though none that takes partisan politics as holy writ.

    I regard Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and their apologists on the left as exemplars of the precisely the sort of radicalism I most detest.

    Your inference that I want anything other than slow, painful death to bin Laden and Saddam shows how little comprehension you have of thoughts that don’t come already cut up for your into little pieces.

  19. Anonymous: Most of the so-called “Neocons” (or “Neoliberals,” which would describe us every bit as well) are in fact fiercely non-partisan, but we are tribal. We simply don’t see tribalism as a bad thing. Osama represents one tribe. Saddam another, closely related, tribe. Our tribe represents liberal values, theirs is inimically hostile to those values–they embrace fascism, and fascism is our greatest enemy. Thus we are willing to subsume some of what we believe for what we think of as the greater good.

    There are many things I disagree with George W. Bush on–but I voted for him without hesitation and was enormously relieved when he won.

    In a way, rejecting “tribalism” is a way of simply cutting yourself off from the human race. Tribalism is a fundamental human instinct and anyone who says he isn’t part of any tribe is essentially saying he’s a sociopath who holds the human animal in contempt. He’s also pretty much full of it; he’s just joined a cliquish little tribe that holds itself apart from the greater mass of humanity.

  20. I have read your posts with great interest. At 68 I remember WWII, the Korean War, And all the ones later than those. I was raised in an extremely liberal, union home and absorbed all of it’s theology. (that is what it is)
    My conversion came during the term of Jimmy Carter. I had such hopes in him, a good man. But he was so ineffectual it was scary. I could not bring myself to vote Republican, for Reagan, but I could not vote for Carter again. I sat it out and secretly cheered when he was not reelected. I started reading conservative weeklies, books and listening to the outrageous Rush Limbaugh, and you know what? He said what I felt. That is the secret of his following. Anyway, out of seven liberal siblings, five of us have turned, one is still turning, and one hangs on to liberalism. The youngest of us is 58. Maybe it is true you are liberal when young and conservative when you finally grow up.
    You have said so clearly and succinctly what I suppose most of us who became conservative went through.
    Thanks, I WILL buy the book.

  21. This explains neo’s stagnation–sorry–since Viet Nam.

    She, presumably, didn’t participate in the abuse of those who thought the tank merited some attention, whether Warsaw Pact, or some other specific threat, or the general view that history is not over.

    What, neo, do you think differentiated the thought processes of those who stagnated from those who saw?

  22. Bravissima. Very moving: easily the best writing on this subject I have seen. I intend to share it with others. Thank you for writing it.

  23. Not a comment, but I do have (yet another) book recommendation for you: Reading Lolita in Tehran, by Azar Nafisi. It’s about her experiences teaching English literature in post-revolutionary Iran, and at least partly explains how so many women went back to the chador.

  24. Thanks, Neo-Neocon, for another wonderfully perceptive post.

    After thinking long and hard about the issues addressed in this series of posts, the conclusion I’ve come to is that most people — or at least most of those who fancy themselves as intellectual — find it hard to change their minds about politics because they are no criteria other than political ones by which to evaluate the policies put forward by different political factions.

    These people are trapped in a kind of ideological tautology. They are Democrats because they are Democrats or they are Republicans because they are Republicans, with those affiliations based not on a set of moral ideals that those political parties embody, but rather on a kind of tribal identification based on class or region or race.

    To put it in terms of Kundera’s image from The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, people habitually dance the way the others in their circle are dancing, rather than listening to the beat of a personal drum of individual conscience or rationality.

    What many lack today — and intellectuals most of all — is some source of moral values besides the tribal idenfications offered by partisan politics.

    Friedrich Nietzsche declared God to be dead in the nineteenth century, thereby denying many intellectuals a source of moral orientation in religion. Roland Barthes declared the death of the author in the twentieth century, thereby devaluaing art as a means of moral reflection in the absence of orthodox religion.

    Despite the fact that political radicalisms have done more harm to the world in the past hundred years than any prior ideologies in history, most intellectuals are still committed to the notion that politics, not art or religion or anything else, is the fundamental basis of such meaning as existence holds for them.

    For someone whose fundamental values are not political, for someone for whom politics is merely a means to pre-political ends, political changes of hear are welcome because they bring about a strengthening of personal integrity. For those for whom politics is their deepest or indeed their only source of existential values, such a change of heart may be frightening, since the loss of a former political belief may mean the loss of belief altogether and the total collapse of a sense of existential integrity. This trauma is intensified by the ugly ostracism that occurs when a member of a given political tribe breaks free from the circle of dancers.

    After 9/11, I had thught that those events would bring about a questioning of political orthodoxies as people fell back on more substantial resources in the face of a crisis that called for intelligent reflection. My great disappointment in the last few years has been to see how many people have failed to do that, lacking any resources at all besides a brutal and vulgar political partisanship.

    2004 was the first presidential election in which I was eligible to vote when I declined to vote. I made that decision regretfully, but ultimately I felt that it was morally more defensible to make the sort of argument I’ve made against political partisanship than to acquiesce as I had in the past to the pressure to conform to one tribe or another. There was simply no candidate on offer in 2004 whose policies conformed sufficiently enough with my fundamental values that I could justify casting a vote for him. “My side” had already lost even before the election was held.

    I would fall in a group even smaller than the neo-neocons: the “neo-nonpartisans.”

  25. Absorbing…worth waiting for. I suspect that a buncha readers are going to identify with your journey.

    I hope this is good therapy for you; I know it is for me.

  26. How’s the book progressing?? Your blog is certainly a meaningful part of my day.

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  28. I know, I know..a petty thing here especially since the article was written 8 years ago.

    but in your section “The Nineties”, Paragraph 4 (Although the details)

    “Many people move from crisis to crisis in their lives—survival, whether it be financial, emotional, of physical, then takes the lead and shuts out other considerations to a great degree.”

    of physical should be ‘or’ physical..

    please feel free to delete this comment.

    But I am enjoying reading your blog, I just stumbled upon it today.

  29. Bobbi:

    Ah, but I thank you for helping me correct a typo, even if it is an 8-year-old one. Good eye!

    Fixed.

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  31. Something you wrote here gave me some hope for the many young people participating in the current insanity.
    “I voted for Paul Tsongas in the 1992 primaries”
    Now if only we can somehow make it through the next 13 years while they mature into adults.

  32. SporkLiftDriver:

    I don’t understand your point.

    Tsongas was an extremely moderate Democrat. Today, he’d be a Republican.

    I was a very moderate Democrat back when moderate Democrats had a place in the Democratic Party.

  33. I only just heard about this series of posts, so I know this is years late. But still I can’t help commenting. During the years from 1975 to 9/11, there were several big political events for me, though only two are relevant for your essay. The first was the destruction of the Iranian left once Khomeini got back to Iran. I had cheered when the Shah left, but within a month I realized that pushing him out was a ghastly mistake. At first, the Muslims who took over Iran were only murdering those who had worked for the Shah, which I didn’t like, but felt was understandable. But then they went after liberals and leftists, and I was appalled. Thousands were murdered, and many others fled. In addition, an extremely reactionary system was set up. It was all so dreadful that after that, every time I encountered references to Muslims or when I occasionally encountered actual Muslims, I would think, “Enemy of the left, enemy of the left, enemy of the left.” I assumed every other leftist felt this way. What, after all, should leftists think of people who murder leftists? Leftists have never liked religious people very much, and the events in Iran certainly reinforced that for me. So, I’ve always thought that my reaction to what happened in Iran in 1979 was the natural leftist response.

    The second big event came ten years later, the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. I believed then and still believe that this was a big announcement to the West by fundamentalist Muslims: “WE INTEND TO RULE YOU.” Since the fatwa came from Khomeini, I was under no illusions about what their rule would mean, namely something completely reactionary and the opposite of what any leftist wanted. Plus, we could expect lots of leftists to be murdered. I was surprised and somewhat concerned when the reactions on the part of my fellow leftists were so muted. Why were there no protest marches against the fatwa? Instead, there were protest marches by Muslims against Rushdie.

    During the next twelve years, I occasionally would read quotes from Muslims to the effect that they expected to be in control of the West a century hence, and I would think that this was wildly unlikely, but I would also uneasily recall the lack of any protests against the fatwa.

    Then came 9/11. My first question was, Who were the terrorists, secular leftists or fundamentalist Muslims? It didn’t take much investigation to determine they were the latter. And at that point, I knew that this was part of a campaign to impose their disgusting Islamic law on us. So, at first I thought that the silver lining to the dreadful attack was that the left would finally be forced to come to grips with the Muslims living among us; they would finally be forced to tell them that no, Muslims weren’t going to be in control a century hence.

    But instead, the left went off in its own perverse direction. After a few days of confusion, they rallied around the theory that this was done in response to grievances that Muslims had against the West, America in particular. This was solidified by their question: “Why do you think they hate us?” Never mind that the slaughter of leftists in Iran had nothing to do with the West and America. That was what was so shocking about it, but it was clear that the left in the West had forgotten or never knew about what happened in Iran. Accordingly, no one who had access to the Megaphone brought up Iran. And over a decade later when Obama wanted to do his awful deal with Iran, once again no one who had access to the Megaphone brought up Iran. I kept hoping that someone on the right would ask him, “Why are you being so chummy with a regime that has murdered so many leftists?” But no one did.

    My question since 9/11 of liberals and leftists has been, “How could you support your own worst enemies?” I haven’t gotten any kind of answer except that they never knew or had totally forgotten about what happened in Iran in 1979. Everyone would just gape at me in bewilderment when I claimed that Muslims were dangerous to leftists. Various books have come out supporting my view, but either they are not read or those in denial stay in denial.

    I now agree with those Muslims who insist they will be in control of the West by the end of this century (though it’s also possible that it will be the Chinese who will be in control). There is no resistance at the top, and those at the top attempt to destroy every bit of resistance that emerges elsewhere. I don’t have much hope that the West will survive. The left just never has told Muslims that no, they aren’t going to be in control at the end of this century. They have practically given them a green light to take over.

    Sorry to go on for so long. By the way, I am on the right these days, but I think of myself as neither a conservative nor a libertarian, but as a right-wing egalitarian. I claim that right-wing egalitarians are more sensible than left-wing egalitarians, but that is another topic entirely.

  34. John Pepple:

    You might want to take a look at this post on leftists and the Iranian revolution.

    I will add that I don’t think that current leftists (especially the older ones) are unaware of what happened to leftists in Iran. They simply don’t care. They support Iran for different reasons, and don’t think that particular crocodile will ever eat them.

  35. The link matches my experiences perfectly, except that I was fortunate to merely be reading about the awful things happening in Iran. I didn’t have to deal with the mullahs myself.

    As for leftists who are aware of what happened in Iran in 1979 and who don’t care, are you thinking of anyone in particular, especially someone who writes a blog or column? The leftists I know or know of either don’t know about it or else do and agree with me that the Iranian regime should never be given any support. Nick Cohen is an example of the latter group, and just about any other leftist I can think of are examples of the former group.

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