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MSNBC commentater Krystal Ball discourses on the plot and significance of Orwell’s <i>Animal Farm</i> — 20 Comments

  1. Not surprising at all because George Orwell also gave them this template in 1984:

    WAR IS PEACE
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

  2. Orwell himself wouldn’t be surprised at the “repurposing” of his work. He wrote of his firsthand knowledge of leftist perfidy during the Spanish Civil War, in which he fought.

  3. And remember that Ms. Ball and her ideological gang are supposed to be both smarter and just plain better than the rest of us.

  4. Krystal may be cynically twisting the meaning of Animal Farm. Or she may simply be the product of a bad education who learned her lessons well. After all, most English departments have been filled with the notions of deconstruction, structuralism, and post-structuralism for a very long time now. Which means that she learned that a text can mean whatever you want it to mean. Or that its meaning doesn’t matter, only what signs and symbols it carries. Or that it’s impossible for us to even know what a text means.

  5. Ann:

    Yes, indeed. She was probably taught by the modern-day equivalent of Perchik.

  6. OK, OK, I hate to be this guy, but Orwell would have been fine with Ball’s reading. Orwell was a socialist. His problem with the pigs was that they became no different from the neighboring farmers; his problem with Soviet Marxism was that it acted just like capitalism. (I haven’t read the WSJ column that she was referring to, much less Piketty’s book, so I don’t know how the Animal Farm reference was made or what specifically it was directed at.)

  7. his problem with Soviet Marxism was that it acted just like capitalism

    Really? I thought he saw the main problem as being its inherent totalitarianism.

  8. The pigs fail to stick to the commandments of the revolution, one by one, and eventually stand on two legs and mingle with the farmers. The problem for Orwell isn’t the revolution or its principles. The problem (in his eyes) isn’t inherent at all. It’s the implementation.

  9. Nick:

    You make an interesting observation and I started to reply, but I decided instead to expand my reply into a post (maybe tomorrow).

    But the short version of my reply is to echo Ann, and to add that Orwell’s own politics and devotion to socialism, and his justifications for it, were quite contradictory.

  10. Nick:

    One more thing–Orwell understood that there was a totalitarian trap inherent in socialism. He tried to believe it could be avoided, but he was aware that the problems in what you might call “implementation” were neither trivial nor easily avoidable.

    Even some socialists see the message of Animal Farm as “all revolutions fail.” More later, in my post about it.

  11. The problem (in his eyes) isn’t inherent at all. It’s the implementation.

    Orwell, in the Observer 1944: “Capitalism leads to dole queues, the scramble for markets and war. Collectivism leads to concentration camps, leader worship and war.”

  12. I was going to say what Ann said in her first comment: Krystal may be the product of a bad education.

    After all, if the teachers are too busy teaching “deconstructionism” and other nonsense Krystal may never have learned the “traditional” interpretation of Animal Farm; and, therefore, really doesn’t know any better.

  13. I think Mr. Blair would have found Miss Balls interpretation of the story of “Animal Farm” to be positively Orwellian.

  14. The ignorance an illiteracy of leftist journalists is shocking. Both my kids knew what “Animal Farm” was about when they read it in high school. They knew who Trotsky was and his coorsponding character and his ultimate fate at the hands of his buddies. They can tell you the whole analogy. But I credit a Texas public school for that.
    In her case, I’d vote ignoramus. I doubt she’s clever enough to be a knave. More like a useful idiot hired by the real weasels at MSNBC.

  15. Golly geewhiz, if only the right people at the right time institute totalitarianism there will be rainbows at the end of everyday in the Sahara, unicorn farts will reverse AGW, and everyone will be equal in their abilities. Viva Fidel, Obama puede ser su heredero. There is your talking point Nick.

    “In her case, I’d vote ignoramus. I doubt she’s clever enough to be a knave.”

    Yep, she hasn’t the ability to understand Animal Farm, even if she has read it, which I doubt.

  16. Neo:
    “Even some socialists see the message of Animal Farm as ‘all revolutions fail.’ More later, in my post about it.”

    Well, the American one is failing, no?

  17. I like Orwell. Communists defended Stalin by saying that progress always comes with a cost. “You can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs,” they said.

    George Orwell famously asked: “Where’s the omelet?”

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