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		By: HC68		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HC68]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But yes, he remained a socialist anyway because the dream dies hard&lt;/blockquote&gt; -- neo

Also because market economics and capitalism rub human beings wrong at a visceral level.  They work, but they don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt; right to caveman, hunter-gatherer instincts.  So socialism rises again over and over, as Kipling observed in &lt;i&gt;The Gods of Copybook Headings&lt;/i&gt;.

Plus the fact that a lot of what we &lt;i&gt;call&lt;/i&gt; market economics is actually an increasingly corrupt and exclusive oligarchy/oligopoly, which lets the socialists mix in a certain amount of damning truth to the rhetoric.  Adding 20% truth to a lie makes it 100% more convincing to a naif.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But yes, he remained a socialist anyway because the dream dies hard</p></blockquote>
<p> &#8212; neo</p>
<p>Also because market economics and capitalism rub human beings wrong at a visceral level.  They work, but they don&#8217;t <i>feel</i> right to caveman, hunter-gatherer instincts.  So socialism rises again over and over, as Kipling observed in <i>The Gods of Copybook Headings</i>.</p>
<p>Plus the fact that a lot of what we <i>call</i> market economics is actually an increasingly corrupt and exclusive oligarchy/oligopoly, which lets the socialists mix in a certain amount of damning truth to the rhetoric.  Adding 20% truth to a lie makes it 100% more convincing to a naif.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A car in front of me this morning had stickers all over the back, most of them the usual weird ones, but this one struck me: &quot;Artificial intelligence creates mass stupidity.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A car in front of me this morning had stickers all over the back, most of them the usual weird ones, but this one struck me: &#8220;Artificial intelligence creates mass stupidity.&#8221;</p>
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		By: HC68		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HC68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a real problem.  I think I&#039;ve talked about this before, but it bears repeating.  

In politics, &lt;b&gt;the electorate is NEVER wrong.&lt;/b&gt;

What I mean by that is that you never ever attack the voters, whether it&#039;s calling them stupid or lazy or whatever, because you are either the prosecution or the defense, and &lt;i&gt; they are the judge and the jury&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.

Imagine a trial where one counsel says aloud that the jurors are idiots if they don&#039;t agree with him.  Even if it&#039;s objectively true, it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; stupid to call the jurors stupid.

A movie maker who insults the audience for not liking the movie he made sets himself up for future failure, because people have a long memory for that kind of thing.  Just ask LucasFilm under Kathleen Kennedy.

The Left has taken repeated hits over the years because they have trouble hiding the condescension and contempt for ordinary people.  We don&#039;t want to fall into the same habits.

The movie comparison works on another level.  It&#039;s not the responsibility of the audience to like and pay to see a filmmaker&#039;s movie.  It&#039;s the filmmaker&#039;s job to make a movie the audience will pay to see.  If the movie flops, it is &lt;i&gt;by definition&lt;/i&gt; the failure of the moviemaker, or sometimes some external factor like covid shutdowns, &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; the failure of the audience.

Electoral politics is like that.  No matter how angry or disappointed or scared a player in that game is, you still don&#039;t get to disrespect the voters.  All tgat does is strengthen the other side.

Two years ago on this site, many people were mistaking one election for a permanent realignment, and talking about how deep a hole the Dems were in.  Go back and look if you doubt me.

Now some of us are acting as if we&#039;re doomed and how stupid the voters are and we haven&#039;t even seen the result yet.

Maybe it will be a disaster for us, maybe not.  Either way, both sides start preparing for 2028 tomorrow.  Either way, blaming the voters is futile and worse than futile, because the voters who pass judgement today will still be the ones we have to convince for 2028.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a real problem.  I think I&#8217;ve talked about this before, but it bears repeating.  </p>
<p>In politics, <b>the electorate is NEVER wrong.</b></p>
<p>What I mean by that is that you never ever attack the voters, whether it&#8217;s calling them stupid or lazy or whatever, because you are either the prosecution or the defense, and <i> they are the judge and the jury</i><i></i>.</p>
<p>Imagine a trial where one counsel says aloud that the jurors are idiots if they don&#8217;t agree with him.  Even if it&#8217;s objectively true, it&#8217;s <i>still</i> stupid to call the jurors stupid.</p>
<p>A movie maker who insults the audience for not liking the movie he made sets himself up for future failure, because people have a long memory for that kind of thing.  Just ask LucasFilm under Kathleen Kennedy.</p>
<p>The Left has taken repeated hits over the years because they have trouble hiding the condescension and contempt for ordinary people.  We don&#8217;t want to fall into the same habits.</p>
<p>The movie comparison works on another level.  It&#8217;s not the responsibility of the audience to like and pay to see a filmmaker&#8217;s movie.  It&#8217;s the filmmaker&#8217;s job to make a movie the audience will pay to see.  If the movie flops, it is <i>by definition</i> the failure of the moviemaker, or sometimes some external factor like covid shutdowns, <i>never</i> the failure of the audience.</p>
<p>Electoral politics is like that.  No matter how angry or disappointed or scared a player in that game is, you still don&#8217;t get to disrespect the voters.  All tgat does is strengthen the other side.</p>
<p>Two years ago on this site, many people were mistaking one election for a permanent realignment, and talking about how deep a hole the Dems were in.  Go back and look if you doubt me.</p>
<p>Now some of us are acting as if we&#8217;re doomed and how stupid the voters are and we haven&#8217;t even seen the result yet.</p>
<p>Maybe it will be a disaster for us, maybe not.  Either way, both sides start preparing for 2028 tomorrow.  Either way, blaming the voters is futile and worse than futile, because the voters who pass judgement today will still be the ones we have to convince for 2028.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While Orwell came to the realization that those on his side (&quot;Loyalists&quot;) in Spain had a fair share of thugs, he apparently never came to the realization that: 
1. &quot;Loyalist&quot; thuggery predated the outbreak of the war
2. &quot;Loyalist&quot; thuggery during the war was not confined to the Soviets and their lackeys. 


1. On July 12, Assault Guards---government policemen---and others on the left killed Jose Calvo Sotelo, perhaps the Right&#039;s most prominent member in Parliament. Government police killing an opposition member of Parliament was unprecedented in Western Europe. Many on the Right concluded, in a paraphrase  of  historian Stanley Payne, that it was safer to revolt than to not revolt. 

2. Within weeks of the outbreak of the war, Anarchists and others on the left killed about a quarter of Spain&#039;s clerics. These killings increased middle-class support for Franco.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Orwell came to the realization that those on his side (&#8220;Loyalists&#8221;) in Spain had a fair share of thugs, he apparently never came to the realization that:<br />
1. &#8220;Loyalist&#8221; thuggery predated the outbreak of the war<br />
2. &#8220;Loyalist&#8221; thuggery during the war was not confined to the Soviets and their lackeys. </p>
<p>1. On July 12, Assault Guards&#8212;government policemen&#8212;and others on the left killed Jose Calvo Sotelo, perhaps the Right&#8217;s most prominent member in Parliament. Government police killing an opposition member of Parliament was unprecedented in Western Europe. Many on the Right concluded, in a paraphrase  of  historian Stanley Payne, that it was safer to revolt than to not revolt. </p>
<p>2. Within weeks of the outbreak of the war, Anarchists and others on the left killed about a quarter of Spain&#8217;s clerics. These killings increased middle-class support for Franco.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Not as many as on the left. Not, I should think, by several orders of magnitude.&quot;

IO,

You should see how they view us!  To themselves, they are the epitome of intelligence and righteous compassion.  I don&#039;t think it has to do with intelligent; many of the leftys I know are not stupid.  It comes down to a mindset that substitutes their political belief for religion and how they then view their own self worth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not as many as on the left. Not, I should think, by several orders of magnitude.&#8221;</p>
<p>IO,</p>
<p>You should see how they view us!  To themselves, they are the epitome of intelligence and righteous compassion.  I don&#8217;t think it has to do with intelligent; many of the leftys I know are not stupid.  It comes down to a mindset that substitutes their political belief for religion and how they then view their own self worth.</p>
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		By: IrishOtter@yahoo.com		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IrishOtter@yahoo.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;They are not necessarily stupid at all. Some are actually very smart, and I know plenty of Democrats in the latter category.&lt;/i&gt;

Well . . . &quot;stupid is as stupid does.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;And there are also many stupid voters on the right &lt;/i&gt;

Not as many as on the left. Not, I should think, by several orders of magnitude.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They are not necessarily stupid at all. Some are actually very smart, and I know plenty of Democrats in the latter category.</i></p>
<p>Well . . . &#8220;stupid is as stupid does.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>And there are also many stupid voters on the right </i></p>
<p>Not as many as on the left. Not, I should think, by several orders of magnitude.</p>
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		By: Sharon W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always blamed the voters. The whole point of the construct of the Republic is to protect us from the normative behavior of the power-hungry and nefarious that is a natural part of the mankind.  And once you allow for people to vote on issues that pertain to private property while they own none--all bets are off.  In Monterey County, California there is an additional $4,000 added to the tax bill beyond the already high configured taxes. Hmmm. I don&#039;t wonder how that gets approved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always blamed the voters. The whole point of the construct of the Republic is to protect us from the normative behavior of the power-hungry and nefarious that is a natural part of the mankind.  And once you allow for people to vote on issues that pertain to private property while they own none&#8211;all bets are off.  In Monterey County, California there is an additional $4,000 added to the tax bill beyond the already high configured taxes. Hmmm. I don&#8217;t wonder how that gets approved.</p>
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