Comments on: Not saving the SAVE Act

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 13:38:26 +0000

Going back to bob dole thirty years ago there has been a diminishing return with majority leaders

Yes mcconnell voted for the supreme court justices well thats a given

Kentucky is a red state although they are chameleons like breshear that get through

I think the turn was after the motor voter law and machinery that marc elias harvested

By: Sailorcurt

Sailorcurt — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 10:49:20 +0000

“Collins I understand. She has to vote this way to try to keep her Maine seat, and if she loses it Maine will almost certainly elect a Democrat. Also, if it was just Collins voting against this, it would have passed.”

Maybe. Or maybe if they passed the Save act, the dems wouldn’t be able to cheat their way to victory quite so easily and Collins could still win.

We won’t know until they get the cheating under control will we?

By: Cavendish

Cavendish — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 10:07:22 +0000

Simple solution to all this: elect a larger number of conservatives to the Senate (which assumes, first, that true conservatives can be found, that they can be convinced to run for the office, and that they can actually be elected).

So far, though, each of those steps has proven to be significantly more complex than the Republican party can comprehend, much less master.

Democrats, on the other hand, have long demonstrated mastery of electing their advocates, including the legerdemain of electing Republicans who fully support Democrat objectives.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 04:35:13 +0000

Maybe the Democrats are trying to “catch and kill” negative stories about Plattner so he will win; but maybe they are planting the new negative stories because once the negatives started growing they decided that he couldn’t win, and Collins is okay with them if she does: at least the state (including Democrat grifters) will keep their pork.

With the biased reporting, as exemplified in the NYT thread today, the Media can at least pretend they were doing journalism.

By: huxley

huxley — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 04:34:08 +0000

I don’t think anything as big as the SAVE Act gets passed on the first try.

There was a long history behind the Civil Rights Act before it was passed in 1964. And that took the assassination of JFK, then the extremely savvy and cynical LBJ.
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I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; “and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.”

–Martin Luther King “I Have a Dream” (08/28/1963)
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Eyes on the prize.

By: Niketas Choniates

Niketas Choniates — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 03:05:59 +0000

@Aggie: Collins I understand.

She won Maine by 9% in 2020. She’s not as bad off as the Dems are making out. In that year she trailed in just about every public poll.

The only principle she has to is bring home pork for Maine, and they’re not going to give it up lightly, it’s worth 10% of Maine’s state revenue. A freshman Dem can’t chair Appropriations even if the somehow the Dems got a majority, which is hard for them to do this year.

We have to consider that any cheating in Maine is probably in her favor. For Lisa Murkowksi that is definitely true, that the cheating in Alaska is in her favor.

By: Aggie

Aggie — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 02:38:53 +0000

Wouldn’t it be interesting if we had, you know, a media that included investigative reporters with a flicker of curiosity and some conservative impulses, wouldn’t it be interesting to take those 4 Senators and poll their actual, direct constituents and find out what they think, today, about the important aspects of the SAVE act? And wouldn’t it be interesting to publish such a story in such a way that they might come across it and start wondering why their Senator keeps shafting them? Collins I understand. Tillis is a known snake, he’s on the way out and has decided to go down bitter & twisted with TDS all the way. That shouldn’t mean he gets a free pass.

Can’t keep blaming the Legacy Media forever. There are plenty of so-called conservative outlets now.

By: Niketas Choniates

Niketas Choniates — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 02:29:38 +0000

@Art Deco:Addison Mitchell McConnell may be the worst thing that’s happened to the Republican Party in the last 50 years.

I think something worse is the “permanent minority” mentality that grew up after FDR, which produced people like McConnell and Murkowski and Collins. Make whatever deal you need to fill the trough, lie to your base and then say, “oh but you don’t want the Democrats to win”. Keep us on our plantation and keep their friends’ hands in our wallets.

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 02:17:03 +0000

Addison Mitchell McConnell may be the worst thing that’s happened to the Republican Party in the last 50 years.

By: Niketas Choniates

Niketas Choniates — Sat, 06 Jun 2026 02:16:10 +0000

@neo:The California Emissions vote bypassed the need for 60 votes by using the Congressional Review Act, which arguably only needed a majority. Like I said they can do this when they want and they have several different ways to do it by simple majority, bypassing the ruling of the parliamentarian in that case.

The Senate parliamentarian ruled that the Congressional Review Act — the legislative vehicle Republicans plan to use to overturn the policy — does not apply to waivers. Ignoring Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough could open the door to ignoring her decisions later this year, when she will decide which policies can be part of the reconciliation bill and which should be subject to a 60-vote threshold filibuster. Democrats have warned that overruling the parliamentarian foreshadows how Republicans approach Senate rules in the near future, particularly as it applies to the Byrd Rule, which restricts what can be part of a reconciliation bill.