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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/06/01/the-mountain-lion-sleeps-tonight/#comment-2853999</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;After reading through the Wikipedia article (allowing some for the leftist bias of the platform), it seems to me he was one of the “honest socialists” like Orwell, who supported the causes that arose from legitimate needs for reform, but rejected the underlying Marxism-Leninism tyranny that the Soviets embraced.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Dalton Trumbo published Johnny Got His Gun, circa 1940, a book espousing pacifism.  In early 1941, the Almanac Singers---who had Pete Seeger as a member----published Songs for John Doe, which had a number of songs preaching for pacifism and  against US entry into WW2.

After  Hitler&#039;s invasion of the USSR on June 22, 1941, Pete Seeger and his cohorts withdrew Songs for John Doe from circulation. Pacifism for the US no longer fit the party line, so Pete and the Almanac Singers were no longer pacifists. Ditto with Trumbo and Johnny Got His  Gun. During WWs2, Dalton Trumbo turned into the FBI the names of genuine pacifists who inquired about Johnny Got His Gun. Sounds a little inconsistent with Dalton&#039;s  &quot;courage&quot; regarding his refusal to name  names to the HUAC.

 Like Dalton Trumbo&#039;s Pete Seeger&#039;s &quot;honesty&quot; regarding pacifism and the US entering into WW2 was not honesty of pacifism beliefs, but honestly changing one&#039;s viewpoints according to what the party line was at the moment. 

Pete&#039;s condemnation of Stalin? IIRC, that occurred rather late---in the 21st century when he made a public statement about Stalin.

I read it once but do not have a link for it, but in his later years, Pete Seeger made the point that his father left the Communists after the 1939 Nonaggression Pact that Stalin signed w Germany. Pete implied that was a better path than he had followed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>After reading through the Wikipedia article (allowing some for the leftist bias of the platform), it seems to me he was one of the “honest socialists” like Orwell, who supported the causes that arose from legitimate needs for reform, but rejected the underlying Marxism-Leninism tyranny that the Soviets embraced.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dalton Trumbo published Johnny Got His Gun, circa 1940, a book espousing pacifism.  In early 1941, the Almanac Singers&#8212;who had Pete Seeger as a member&#8212;-published Songs for John Doe, which had a number of songs preaching for pacifism and  against US entry into WW2.</p>
<p>After  Hitler&#8217;s invasion of the USSR on June 22, 1941, Pete Seeger and his cohorts withdrew Songs for John Doe from circulation. Pacifism for the US no longer fit the party line, so Pete and the Almanac Singers were no longer pacifists. Ditto with Trumbo and Johnny Got His  Gun. During WWs2, Dalton Trumbo turned into the FBI the names of genuine pacifists who inquired about Johnny Got His Gun. Sounds a little inconsistent with Dalton&#8217;s  &#8220;courage&#8221; regarding his refusal to name  names to the HUAC.</p>
<p> Like Dalton Trumbo&#8217;s Pete Seeger&#8217;s &#8220;honesty&#8221; regarding pacifism and the US entering into WW2 was not honesty of pacifism beliefs, but honestly changing one&#8217;s viewpoints according to what the party line was at the moment. </p>
<p>Pete&#8217;s condemnation of Stalin? IIRC, that occurred rather late&#8212;in the 21st century when he made a public statement about Stalin.</p>
<p>I read it once but do not have a link for it, but in his later years, Pete Seeger made the point that his father left the Communists after the 1939 Nonaggression Pact that Stalin signed w Germany. Pete implied that was a better path than he had followed.</p>
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		By: Selfy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2026 04:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe that the Soviets gave a lot of financing to the &quot;Peace Movement&quot; in the USA, as a tool of subversion, during and after the Vietnam War.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the Soviets gave a lot of financing to the &#8220;Peace Movement&#8221; in the USA, as a tool of subversion, during and after the Vietnam War.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2026 02:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops - I was on the wrong thread for my commentary on the song.

https://thenewneo.com/2026/06/02/open-thread-6-2-2026/#comment-2853436

I discovered the error while appending this comment:
Seeger was a full-fledged card-carrying Communist during the 1940s, but broke with the CPUSA when Stalin&#039;s atrocities finally became known.
After reading through the Wikipedia article (allowing some for the leftist bias of the platform), it seems to me he was one of the &quot;honest socialists&quot; like Orwell, who supported the causes that arose from legitimate needs for reform, but rejected the underlying Marxism-Leninism tyranny that the Soviets embraced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Seeger

At the time, one of Seeger&#039;s critics was &quot;the Council for Democracy (an organization that Friedrich and Henry Luce&#039;s right-hand man, C. D. Jackson, Vice President of Time magazine, had founded &quot;to combat all the Nazi, fascist, communist, pacifist&quot; antiwar groups in the United States).&quot;

Most conservatives have noticed that, in the intervening decades, &lt;em&gt;somehow &lt;/em&gt;the first two groups got separated from the third as political labels.

&quot;Pacifism&quot; is the thing that&#039;s not-like-the-others, but IIRC authentic anti-war pacifists were often used as a front by the other three ideologists to deter the Allies during the war, and then by the USSR afterwards to obstruct meddling in its own wars.

If I have any of that wrong, I gladly accept clarification.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; I was on the wrong thread for my commentary on the song.</p>
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<p>I discovered the error while appending this comment:<br />
Seeger was a full-fledged card-carrying Communist during the 1940s, but broke with the CPUSA when Stalin&#8217;s atrocities finally became known.<br />
After reading through the Wikipedia article (allowing some for the leftist bias of the platform), it seems to me he was one of the &#8220;honest socialists&#8221; like Orwell, who supported the causes that arose from legitimate needs for reform, but rejected the underlying Marxism-Leninism tyranny that the Soviets embraced.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Seeger" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Seeger</a></p>
<p>At the time, one of Seeger&#8217;s critics was &#8220;the Council for Democracy (an organization that Friedrich and Henry Luce&#8217;s right-hand man, C. D. Jackson, Vice President of Time magazine, had founded &#8220;to combat all the Nazi, fascist, communist, pacifist&#8221; antiwar groups in the United States).&#8221;</p>
<p>Most conservatives have noticed that, in the intervening decades, <em>somehow </em>the first two groups got separated from the third as political labels.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pacifism&#8221; is the thing that&#8217;s not-like-the-others, but IIRC authentic anti-war pacifists were often used as a front by the other three ideologists to deter the Allies during the war, and then by the USSR afterwards to obstruct meddling in its own wars.</p>
<p>If I have any of that wrong, I gladly accept clarification.</p>
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		By: Selfy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 04:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chases Eagle, thanks for the ravens video; that was neat!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chases Eagle, thanks for the ravens video; that was neat!</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 03:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suspect that until the mountain lion can tranquilize its prey and take it away and release it somewhere else, it will remain a very capable and dangerous predator, but not the apex one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that until the mountain lion can tranquilize its prey and take it away and release it somewhere else, it will remain a very capable and dangerous predator, but not the apex one.</p>
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		By: RockMeAle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 03:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This reads like a murder mystery even though you know &quot;whodunnit&quot; from the start. 

The Beast in the Garden: The True Story of a Predator&#039;s Deadly Return to Suburban America

https://a.co/d/0duSoOjF]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reads like a murder mystery even though you know &#8220;whodunnit&#8221; from the start. </p>
<p>The Beast in the Garden: The True Story of a Predator&#8217;s Deadly Return to Suburban America</p>
<p><a href="https://a.co/d/0duSoOjF" rel="nofollow ugc">https://a.co/d/0duSoOjF</a></p>
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		By: Mutatis Mutandis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 02:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ladysmith Black Mambaza recorded Winoweh live with the Mint Juleps forever ago. I think it’s the best I’ve heard, and I’m old enough to remember Miriam Makema’s version. Both are worth the search.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladysmith Black Mambaza recorded Winoweh live with the Mint Juleps forever ago. I think it’s the best I’ve heard, and I’m old enough to remember Miriam Makema’s version. Both are worth the search.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 00:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember last summer, I got a cougar on camera walking around my truck and one, probably the same one, killed a deer in the neighbor’s driveway. 

Since then, the only cat is a fluffy house cat that cruises through about 3am every few nights. Mowing used to produce a vole stampede. Since the cat and a pair of Ravens showed up, no voles, none. The Ravens have a nest. They used to fly around together but now we only see them one at a time going to and from the nest.

Here is a short video from last month as they are surfing the wind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhEcC8Xk-gc]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember last summer, I got a cougar on camera walking around my truck and one, probably the same one, killed a deer in the neighbor’s driveway. </p>
<p>Since then, the only cat is a fluffy house cat that cruises through about 3am every few nights. Mowing used to produce a vole stampede. Since the cat and a pair of Ravens showed up, no voles, none. The Ravens have a nest. They used to fly around together but now we only see them one at a time going to and from the nest.</p>
<p>Here is a short video from last month as they are surfing the wind.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhEcC8Xk-gc" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhEcC8Xk-gc</a></p>
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		By: SENNACHERIB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SENNACHERIB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 23:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a big fan of Osibisa!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of Osibisa!</p>
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		By: Ole Eichhorn		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/06/01/the-mountain-lion-sleeps-tonight/#comment-2853368</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ole Eichhorn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 23:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The best part?  LA has a $100M boondoggle project to build a wildlife bridge across the 101 freeway, so that mountain lions can access more backyards.

Note Cougars are not endangered and they are beautiful and amazing, but they are apex predators who belong ... in the mountains.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part?  LA has a $100M boondoggle project to build a wildlife bridge across the 101 freeway, so that mountain lions can access more backyards.</p>
<p>Note Cougars are not endangered and they are beautiful and amazing, but they are apex predators who belong &#8230; in the mountains.</p>
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