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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852188</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 13:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He blamed rural Jews.

Mom&#039;s family was from West Virginia.  Yes!  We did it!  We totally did it!

Good Shabbos, and Yeeehaw!]]></description>
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<p>Mom&#8217;s family was from West Virginia.  Yes!  We did it!  We totally did it!</p>
<p>Good Shabbos, and Yeeehaw!</p>
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		By: SENNACHERIB		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852120</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 18:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keith is a bot, Keith is a bot!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith is a bot, Keith is a bot!</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852101</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 13:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well there’s always this…
(…keeping in mind that the reasoning may be a little too convoluted for some…):

https://instapundit.com/798160/
Key reasoning:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
…If you’re looking for an explanation of Massie’s defeat in a Republican primary election, consider the extraordinary possibility that Republican voters might have had something to do with it, having made their own evaluation about the quality of his service in public office. The change in the last two years is that Massie entered into a political partnership with Democrats, allying with the Bay Area Congressman Ro Khanna, a particularly repellent Democrat, to try to harm Trump politically….
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No doubt the Zionists—especially AIPAC—made him do it]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there’s always this…<br />
(…keeping in mind that the reasoning may be a little too convoluted for some…):</p>
<p><a href="https://instapundit.com/798160/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/798160/</a><br />
Key reasoning:</p>
<blockquote><p>
…If you’re looking for an explanation of Massie’s defeat in a Republican primary election, consider the extraordinary possibility that Republican voters might have had something to do with it, having made their own evaluation about the quality of his service in public office. The change in the last two years is that Massie entered into a political partnership with Democrats, allying with the Bay Area Congressman Ro Khanna, a particularly repellent Democrat, to try to harm Trump politically….
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<p>No doubt the Zionists—especially AIPAC—made him do it</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852095</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 11:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan, some variant of everything you&#039;ve suggested I&#039;d sign onto, but limit the rotation-in-office requirement for federal civilian employees to those above a certain rank.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan, some variant of everything you&#8217;ve suggested I&#8217;d sign onto, but limit the rotation-in-office requirement for federal civilian employees to those above a certain rank.</p>
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		By: Thomas Doubting		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852074</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Bee has an amusing take:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://babylonbee.com/news/massie-blames-defeat-on-jews-of-rural-kentucky&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Massie Blames Defeat On Jews Of Rural Kentucky&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bee has an amusing take:</p>
<p><a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/massie-blames-defeat-on-jews-of-rural-kentucky" rel="nofollow ugc">Massie Blames Defeat On Jews Of Rural Kentucky</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852068</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 00:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Richard Cook &#062; &quot;--- the cheapest kind of troll. There used to be much better ones.&quot;

Without commenting on any particular nom, perhaps the trolls are even better now, and thus harder to identify with certainty.

Some of the commenters at Turley&#039;s blog are clearly either fully or partially AI.
Sarah Hoyt has one in particular recently that has raised my suspicions.
The best trolls IMO are actual humans who have enough AI support to be &quot;instantly knowledgeable&quot; about any topic (most of us got our ignorance reduced through long experience or lots of news reading). Trimming rhetorical sails with the wind of replies is a tell, I think.

The best answer for them here at Neo&#039;s is generally the same as answering a genuinely contrarian* person: set them straight with facts, evidence, and links. The trolls will ignore all of that, but other readers could be persuaded.

However, I do enjoy a good Turtler tirade from time to time.

*Even though we have few commenters who agree 100% with others, there is a general consensus on the ideology and principles of the Neophiles. Drive-by trolls won&#039;t know this. Paid or professional trolls will study the zeitgeist so they can blend in with the orchestra, while playing on a few topics contrary to that consensus.
Just because someone disagrees with others doesn&#039;t make them a troll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Richard Cook &gt; &#8220;&#8212; the cheapest kind of troll. There used to be much better ones.&#8221;</p>
<p>Without commenting on any particular nom, perhaps the trolls are even better now, and thus harder to identify with certainty.</p>
<p>Some of the commenters at Turley&#8217;s blog are clearly either fully or partially AI.<br />
Sarah Hoyt has one in particular recently that has raised my suspicions.<br />
The best trolls IMO are actual humans who have enough AI support to be &#8220;instantly knowledgeable&#8221; about any topic (most of us got our ignorance reduced through long experience or lots of news reading). Trimming rhetorical sails with the wind of replies is a tell, I think.</p>
<p>The best answer for them here at Neo&#8217;s is generally the same as answering a genuinely contrarian* person: set them straight with facts, evidence, and links. The trolls will ignore all of that, but other readers could be persuaded.</p>
<p>However, I do enjoy a good Turtler tirade from time to time.</p>
<p>*Even though we have few commenters who agree 100% with others, there is a general consensus on the ideology and principles of the Neophiles. Drive-by trolls won&#8217;t know this. Paid or professional trolls will study the zeitgeist so they can blend in with the orchestra, while playing on a few topics contrary to that consensus.<br />
Just because someone disagrees with others doesn&#8217;t make them a troll.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852066</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 00:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Nate and Charles: My favorite quip, usually attributed to Groucho Marx: &quot;These are my principles. If you don’t like them I have others.&quot;

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/09/groucho-principles/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Nate and Charles: My favorite quip, usually attributed to Groucho Marx: &#8220;These are my principles. If you don’t like them I have others.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/09/groucho-principles/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/09/groucho-principles/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852064</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 00:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Art Deco (&#038; others ) &#062;&quot;The iron triangles exist between perpetual legislators, public agencies, and lobbies. You want to break the iron triangles, you begin removing those elements.&quot;

(1) How about &quot;term limits&quot; for the bureaucrats above just-plain-secretaries, IOW anyone who can make (or break) policies, and who constitute the Deep Administrative State; include all Intelligence agencies and legislative staffers (who often &quot;go with the office&quot; if the new occupant is of the same party) as well.
Add a salary limit oo: the Fauci &#038; Grady total was obscene (see my comment linked below).

(2) Hard retirement age for all elected and appointed officials, including Justices and judges, preferably under 80. And none of this &quot;judge emeritus making important decisions&quot; nonsense. Go plant flowers.

(3) Zero government funds for NGOs: if you call yourself non-governmental, then BE NON-governmental.

(4) End IRS rules favoring non-profits, which don&#039;t make a &quot;profit&quot; in the same way movies never make a &quot;profit&quot; despite huge income vs expenses: because they pay out all their money to their executives (not always their staff), and fund other entities, not always in the purview of their mission statements. And other shenanigans in the movie and music industries..

(5) Actually enforce the current laws limiting the &quot;revolving door&quot; of government to lobby to media to think-tank to NGO to non-profit to political party. Add some more restrictions as well. 
And mandate that all married or significantly-partnered couples in the above entities disclose the relationship EVERY TIME THEIR NAME IS MENTIONED, even if they aren&#039;t currently directly connected to each other operationally (or &quot;helping&quot; on the sly.

Quoting myself from here; also see the link to DataRepublican.
I forgot to mention all the married couples involved in the Fake Russian Collusion scandal.

https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/our-brilliant-and-knowledgeable-journalists/#comment-2851978

https://datarepublican.substack.com/p/the-shadow-cabinet-of-soros]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Art Deco (&amp; others ) &gt;&#8221;The iron triangles exist between perpetual legislators, public agencies, and lobbies. You want to break the iron triangles, you begin removing those elements.&#8221;</p>
<p>(1) How about &#8220;term limits&#8221; for the bureaucrats above just-plain-secretaries, IOW anyone who can make (or break) policies, and who constitute the Deep Administrative State; include all Intelligence agencies and legislative staffers (who often &#8220;go with the office&#8221; if the new occupant is of the same party) as well.<br />
Add a salary limit oo: the Fauci &amp; Grady total was obscene (see my comment linked below).</p>
<p>(2) Hard retirement age for all elected and appointed officials, including Justices and judges, preferably under 80. And none of this &#8220;judge emeritus making important decisions&#8221; nonsense. Go plant flowers.</p>
<p>(3) Zero government funds for NGOs: if you call yourself non-governmental, then BE NON-governmental.</p>
<p>(4) End IRS rules favoring non-profits, which don&#8217;t make a &#8220;profit&#8221; in the same way movies never make a &#8220;profit&#8221; despite huge income vs expenses: because they pay out all their money to their executives (not always their staff), and fund other entities, not always in the purview of their mission statements. And other shenanigans in the movie and music industries..</p>
<p>(5) Actually enforce the current laws limiting the &#8220;revolving door&#8221; of government to lobby to media to think-tank to NGO to non-profit to political party. Add some more restrictions as well.<br />
And mandate that all married or significantly-partnered couples in the above entities disclose the relationship EVERY TIME THEIR NAME IS MENTIONED, even if they aren&#8217;t currently directly connected to each other operationally (or &#8220;helping&#8221; on the sly.</p>
<p>Quoting myself from here; also see the link to DataRepublican.<br />
I forgot to mention all the married couples involved in the Fake Russian Collusion scandal.</p>
<p><a href="https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/our-brilliant-and-knowledgeable-journalists/#comment-2851978" rel="ugc">https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/our-brilliant-and-knowledgeable-journalists/#comment-2851978</a></p>
<p><a href="https://datarepublican.substack.com/p/the-shadow-cabinet-of-soros" rel="nofollow ugc">https://datarepublican.substack.com/p/the-shadow-cabinet-of-soros</a></p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 22:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;All it takes to be an antisemite these days is to question why we give Israel so much money.&lt;/i&gt;
==
In an ordinary year, we give Israel a sum of money about equal to 1.2% of their gross national income.  It is given in the form of credits to buy equipment from American manufacturers.  It accounts for about 10% of the foreign aid budget.  If you think we should discontinue the aid, you can make the case for that.  I run into types like you routinely and have yet to see one of them attempt to do that.  Because the complaint is an excuse, not a reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>All it takes to be an antisemite these days is to question why we give Israel so much money.</i><br />
==<br />
In an ordinary year, we give Israel a sum of money about equal to 1.2% of their gross national income.  It is given in the form of credits to buy equipment from American manufacturers.  It accounts for about 10% of the foreign aid budget.  If you think we should discontinue the aid, you can make the case for that.  I run into types like you routinely and have yet to see one of them attempt to do that.  Because the complaint is an excuse, not a reason.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/05/19/massies-out/#comment-2852043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 21:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The thing is that if you term limit the legislature, the practical result will be to transfer even more power and influence to the permanent administrative apparat, or the ‘deep state’ if you prefer.&lt;/i&gt;
==
No, it won&#039;t.  The iron triangles exist between perpetual legislators, public agencies, and lobbies.  You want to break the iron triangles, you begin removing those elements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The thing is that if you term limit the legislature, the practical result will be to transfer even more power and influence to the permanent administrative apparat, or the ‘deep state’ if you prefer.</i><br />
==<br />
No, it won&#8217;t.  The iron triangles exist between perpetual legislators, public agencies, and lobbies.  You want to break the iron triangles, you begin removing those elements.</p>
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