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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/04/21/virginia-democrats-vote-for-the-mother-of-all-gerrymanders/#comment-2848926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 00:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[miguel cervantes:

They fought the gerrymandering in the court system, and perhaps they thought that was their best shot. Once the Virginia SC refused to issue a ruling, the referendum was going to take place, and because Virginia is basically a blue state, they may have figured that their money would be better spent fighting it afterward in the courts rather than a probably futile effort to win the referendum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>miguel cervantes:</p>
<p>They fought the gerrymandering in the court system, and perhaps they thought that was their best shot. Once the Virginia SC refused to issue a ruling, the referendum was going to take place, and because Virginia is basically a blue state, they may have figured that their money would be better spent fighting it afterward in the courts rather than a probably futile effort to win the referendum.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 23:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[one perspective


https://thenationalpulse.com/2026/04/22/watch-how-rnc-insiders-prioritized-cornyn-lindsey-graham-over-virginias-gerrymandering/

it does seem like they are not having their eye on the ball]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one perspective</p>
<p><a href="https://thenationalpulse.com/2026/04/22/watch-how-rnc-insiders-prioritized-cornyn-lindsey-graham-over-virginias-gerrymandering/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thenationalpulse.com/2026/04/22/watch-how-rnc-insiders-prioritized-cornyn-lindsey-graham-over-virginias-gerrymandering/</a></p>
<p>it does seem like they are not having their eye on the ball</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 22:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why would anyone think the vote was honest anyway? Everything the donkeys control is putrid and rotten. If they had the votes they wouldn’t have to cheat.

Based on the comments on the local Facebook, my very blue county doesn’t seem actually anywhere near as blue as the vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone think the vote was honest anyway? Everything the donkeys control is putrid and rotten. If they had the votes they wouldn’t have to cheat.</p>
<p>Based on the comments on the local Facebook, my very blue county doesn’t seem actually anywhere near as blue as the vote.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 21:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That was quick.  A VA circuit court just ruled the Ds new map unconstitutional.  Of course the VA SC has to rule]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was quick.  A VA circuit court just ruled the Ds new map unconstitutional.  Of course the VA SC has to rule</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any comparison to any redistricting the GOP has done recently. The new Virginia map is far more extreme.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any comparison to any redistricting the GOP has done recently. The new Virginia map is far more extreme.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[miguel cervantes:

You write that Thune &quot;is blocking the SAVE Act.&quot; But why do you think he&#039;s doing that? The typical response to that question that I see around the blogosphere is that he just doesn&#039;t want it to pass because he&#039;s a Democrat in Republican clothing, or just because, or whatever.

But those people never deal with the fact that he doesn&#039;t have the votes.  I wrote about that &lt;a href=&quot;https://thenewneo.com/2026/03/12/save-the-save-act/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; as well as &lt;a href=&quot;https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/12/the-senate-gop-and-the-save-act/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

You might say if Thune really wanted it he could twist more arms. Maybe; maybe not. Note that the Democrats really wanted it during the Biden years, are very good at arm-twisting, but didn&#039;t get it because of Sinema and Manchin. There&#039;s a limit to what can be done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>miguel cervantes:</p>
<p>You write that Thune &#8220;is blocking the SAVE Act.&#8221; But why do you think he&#8217;s doing that? The typical response to that question that I see around the blogosphere is that he just doesn&#8217;t want it to pass because he&#8217;s a Democrat in Republican clothing, or just because, or whatever.</p>
<p>But those people never deal with the fact that he doesn&#8217;t have the votes.  I wrote about that <a href="https://thenewneo.com/2026/03/12/save-the-save-act/" rel="ugc">here</a> as well as <a href="https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/12/the-senate-gop-and-the-save-act/" rel="ugc">here</a>.</p>
<p>You might say if Thune really wanted it he could twist more arms. Maybe; maybe not. Note that the Democrats really wanted it during the Biden years, are very good at arm-twisting, but didn&#8217;t get it because of Sinema and Manchin. There&#8217;s a limit to what can be done.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone looking at the proposed VA map can see the contortions required to produce control of the whole state through northern Virginia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone looking at the proposed VA map can see the contortions required to produce control of the whole state through northern Virginia.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2026/04/21/virginia-democrats-vote-for-the-mother-of-all-gerrymanders/#comment-2848867</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the Dems maximize their advantages, the possums in Utah and Indiana, play by &#039;marquise of queensbury rules,&#039; actually mike pence, has removed all doubt, and he is demonstrating enemy action, (indiana promised in return for maryland and temu obama, not gerrymandering,) guess what happened next

as Brian Kemp and Doug Docey, both allowed the fraud to perpetuate itself in 2020,  in Georgia and Arizona, a scorpion will follow its nature for it&#039;s own purposes, ostensibly the possums will do the right thing (why are you laughing)

Desantis rightfully sought to balance the short changing Florida had received in the Census, the next round of redistricting will be coming up

progs play to win, stacking the Supreme Court in Wisconsin to prevent a challenge to their gerrymanders, a long time ago, the tea party pushed to hold the Court in the abramson matter back in 2012 when the walker recall fell through,
with thune, blocking the SAVE act, maybe a dakota prairie dog is more apt

he is also blocking accountability on the lawfare front,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Dems maximize their advantages, the possums in Utah and Indiana, play by &#8216;marquise of queensbury rules,&#8217; actually mike pence, has removed all doubt, and he is demonstrating enemy action, (indiana promised in return for maryland and temu obama, not gerrymandering,) guess what happened next</p>
<p>as Brian Kemp and Doug Docey, both allowed the fraud to perpetuate itself in 2020,  in Georgia and Arizona, a scorpion will follow its nature for it&#8217;s own purposes, ostensibly the possums will do the right thing (why are you laughing)</p>
<p>Desantis rightfully sought to balance the short changing Florida had received in the Census, the next round of redistricting will be coming up</p>
<p>progs play to win, stacking the Supreme Court in Wisconsin to prevent a challenge to their gerrymanders, a long time ago, the tea party pushed to hold the Court in the abramson matter back in 2012 when the walker recall fell through,<br />
with thune, blocking the SAVE act, maybe a dakota prairie dog is more apt</p>
<p>he is also blocking accountability on the lawfare front,</p>
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		By: Skip		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It will become a 1 party state like California and a few others are.
And trying to turn Congress against President Trump]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will become a 1 party state like California and a few others are.<br />
And trying to turn Congress against President Trump</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 19:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Bauxite: You wrote what you wrote. I wrote what I wrote. Everyone can judge for themselves, and is doing so. Doesn&#039;t matter how many caps you use. You can&#039;t successfully gaslight people about your own words when they&#039;re up at the top. We can see the attempted redefinition happening from comment to comment.

You&#039;re welcome to continue to try, just makes you less credible the more you try it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bauxite: You wrote what you wrote. I wrote what I wrote. Everyone can judge for themselves, and is doing so. Doesn&#8217;t matter how many caps you use. You can&#8217;t successfully gaslight people about your own words when they&#8217;re up at the top. We can see the attempted redefinition happening from comment to comment.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome to continue to try, just makes you less credible the more you try it.</p>
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