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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 11:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thee are a lot of scientifically/mathematically based YouTube discussions/presentations which I don&#039;t understand at all, and a lot of them are at Curt Jaimungal&#039;s website, like these *

I appears that unless you have a good education in/grasp of higher mathematics and physics you can&#039;t really understand what they are trying to convey.

*  See  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIr33li5Cs

and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZ3Kto6NIc&#038;t=75s]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thee are a lot of scientifically/mathematically based YouTube discussions/presentations which I don&#8217;t understand at all, and a lot of them are at Curt Jaimungal&#8217;s website, like these *</p>
<p>I appears that unless you have a good education in/grasp of higher mathematics and physics you can&#8217;t really understand what they are trying to convey.</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIr33li5Cs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIr33li5Cs</a></p>
<p>and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZ3Kto6NIc&#038;t=75s" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZ3Kto6NIc&#038;t=75s</a></p>
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		By: SD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 10:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Refunds UP 11% to average of $3500!! More benefits of the Big Beautiful Bill - - VIDEO **Updated**

https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2026/04/refunds-up-11-to-average-of-3500-more.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refunds UP 11% to average of $3500!! More benefits of the Big Beautiful Bill &#8211; &#8211; VIDEO **Updated**</p>
<p><a href="https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2026/04/refunds-up-11-to-average-of-3500-more.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2026/04/refunds-up-11-to-average-of-3500-more.html</a></p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NEWS MAKER-Before 8PM Tuesday night, Zerohedge posted this headline in a long long post: 

Crediting WSJ, “Over 20 US-Approved Ships Pass Through Hormuz, As Trump Eyes Jump-Starting Next Pakistan Peace Talks” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iran-mulls-hormuz-shipping-pause-preserve-talks-avoid-trump-blockade-showdown-us

The long piece sums up as meaning that many wheels are in motion.

AMAZING IF TRUE! Because before this the max number of ships going through in weeks past was 13 ships, as far as I can tell.

How will the TDS world spin THIS Trump triumph?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEWS MAKER-Before 8PM Tuesday night, Zerohedge posted this headline in a long long post: </p>
<p>Crediting WSJ, “Over 20 US-Approved Ships Pass Through Hormuz, As Trump Eyes Jump-Starting Next Pakistan Peace Talks” <a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iran-mulls-hormuz-shipping-pause-preserve-talks-avoid-trump-blockade-showdown-us" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iran-mulls-hormuz-shipping-pause-preserve-talks-avoid-trump-blockade-showdown-us</a></p>
<p>The long piece sums up as meaning that many wheels are in motion.</p>
<p>AMAZING IF TRUE! Because before this the max number of ships going through in weeks past was 13 ships, as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>How will the TDS world spin THIS Trump triumph?</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 02:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BrianE:

Unfortunately the Little Crappy Ships (LCS) ( see cdrsalamander on substack) are not capable of much of anything, a failure of naval transformation (hubris).  IIRC their minesweepering capability is dubious, they are mechanically unreliable, and basically lemons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianE:</p>
<p>Unfortunately the Little Crappy Ships (LCS) ( see cdrsalamander on substack) are not capable of much of anything, a failure of naval transformation (hubris).  IIRC their minesweepering capability is dubious, they are mechanically unreliable, and basically lemons.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 00:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We do have ships that have been fitted for minesweeping duties.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Navy has three Independence-class LCS permanently configured with the Mine Countermeasures (MCM) package:

USS Canberra (LCS-30) Bahrain Indian Ocean / 5th Fleet area
USS Santa Barbara (LCS-32) Singapore (maintenance) Out of theater
USS Tulsa (LCS-16) Singapore (maintenance) Out of theater

Only USS Canberra is in a position where it could potentially respond relatively quickly.
The other two were sent to Southeast Asia in March 2026 for scheduled maintenance and logistics and have not been recalled.

What the Navy Is Doing Instead
The U.S. has already begun initial mine clearance operations in the Strait of Hormuz using:

Arleigh Burke-class destroyers (USS Frank E. Peterson and USS Michael Murphy) to “set conditions” and create safe pathways.
Unmanned systems, helicopters, and other assets.

The dedicated LCS with the full remote/standoff MCM package (using drone boats, underwater drones, and MH-60S helicopters) would be ideal for this mission, but the Navy is proceeding with what’s immediately available while the other two ships remain in maintenance.&lt;/blockquote&gt; -Grok

&lt;b&gt;The Navy turned the Littoral Combat Ship into a minehunter&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2-Z1hSNhXs

I gather the old minesweepers that were just decommissioned last fall wouldn&#039;t have been used in the Strait anyway, because they didn&#039;t have defensive capabilities against missiles/drones.

Apparently the Independence class ships aren&#039;t ready to be tested in combat.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Mine Countermeasures (MCM) mission package on these ships is relatively new and has not been fully proven in real-world combat conditions.
The Pentagon’s Director of Operational Test and Evaluation reported in early 2026 that there was insufficient performance data to confirm full operational effectiveness.
There have been ongoing technical problems with key components (unmanned surface vehicles, sonar systems, and integration), leading some analysts to describe the capability as still immature.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have ships that have been fitted for minesweeping duties.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Navy has three Independence-class LCS permanently configured with the Mine Countermeasures (MCM) package:</p>
<p>USS Canberra (LCS-30) Bahrain Indian Ocean / 5th Fleet area<br />
USS Santa Barbara (LCS-32) Singapore (maintenance) Out of theater<br />
USS Tulsa (LCS-16) Singapore (maintenance) Out of theater</p>
<p>Only USS Canberra is in a position where it could potentially respond relatively quickly.<br />
The other two were sent to Southeast Asia in March 2026 for scheduled maintenance and logistics and have not been recalled.</p>
<p>What the Navy Is Doing Instead<br />
The U.S. has already begun initial mine clearance operations in the Strait of Hormuz using:</p>
<p>Arleigh Burke-class destroyers (USS Frank E. Peterson and USS Michael Murphy) to “set conditions” and create safe pathways.<br />
Unmanned systems, helicopters, and other assets.</p>
<p>The dedicated LCS with the full remote/standoff MCM package (using drone boats, underwater drones, and MH-60S helicopters) would be ideal for this mission, but the Navy is proceeding with what’s immediately available while the other two ships remain in maintenance.</p></blockquote>
<p> -Grok</p>
<p><b>The Navy turned the Littoral Combat Ship into a minehunter</b><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2-Z1hSNhXs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2-Z1hSNhXs</a></p>
<p>I gather the old minesweepers that were just decommissioned last fall wouldn&#8217;t have been used in the Strait anyway, because they didn&#8217;t have defensive capabilities against missiles/drones.</p>
<p>Apparently the Independence class ships aren&#8217;t ready to be tested in combat.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Mine Countermeasures (MCM) mission package on these ships is relatively new and has not been fully proven in real-world combat conditions.<br />
The Pentagon’s Director of Operational Test and Evaluation reported in early 2026 that there was insufficient performance data to confirm full operational effectiveness.<br />
There have been ongoing technical problems with key components (unmanned surface vehicles, sonar systems, and integration), leading some analysts to describe the capability as still immature.</p></blockquote>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 00:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Foster asks about US minesweepers.

So far, only destroyers have been deployed, two or three. These are ships designed to be speedy. 

Wiki explains &quot;In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast, maneuverable, long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet, convoy, or carrier battle group and defend them against a wide range of general threats.&quot; Such as aircraft carriers.

The YT channel mentions that maybe three types of dedicated minesweepers have been decommissioned recently, and  as late as last year.

I believe there is new technology that may be added to the mix 
(eg, aerial laser detection). Plus, a couple of Euro-nations (UK and France?) are sending dedicated minesweepers.

Whatever happens, it may be a real medium-term problem, even though a main channel may be declared safe soon.

One wild card is simply that mines will drift with the currents and tides. Another one is that Iran has used non-metallic mines that can only be detected visually.

What surprised me in the clip is that speedy Sea-Doo style Wave Runners will also be used to sweep the sea for mines -- closer to shore, one imagines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Foster asks about US minesweepers.</p>
<p>So far, only destroyers have been deployed, two or three. These are ships designed to be speedy. </p>
<p>Wiki explains &#8220;In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast, maneuverable, long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet, convoy, or carrier battle group and defend them against a wide range of general threats.&#8221; Such as aircraft carriers.</p>
<p>The YT channel mentions that maybe three types of dedicated minesweepers have been decommissioned recently, and  as late as last year.</p>
<p>I believe there is new technology that may be added to the mix<br />
(eg, aerial laser detection). Plus, a couple of Euro-nations (UK and France?) are sending dedicated minesweepers.</p>
<p>Whatever happens, it may be a real medium-term problem, even though a main channel may be declared safe soon.</p>
<p>One wild card is simply that mines will drift with the currents and tides. Another one is that Iran has used non-metallic mines that can only be detected visually.</p>
<p>What surprised me in the clip is that speedy Sea-Doo style Wave Runners will also be used to sweep the sea for mines &#8212; closer to shore, one imagines.</p>
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		By: Chuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 00:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ John Galt III

It is weird, but the distant electron spin doesn&#039;t &quot;switch&quot;, it had a mixed state, neither up nor down. Same with the measured electron, measurement puts it in the up or down state. The entangled pair cannot be treated independently, that would violate the conservation of angular momentum, so the theory must  work that way to conform to the known laws of physics. Note that for the near particle state to be communicated to the distant observer takes place at the speed of light at best, so relativity isn&#039;t violated, but there is a correlation between the two measurements even though they look independent to the observers making the measurements. It&#039;s still weird, but perhaps less so.

It is the measurement process that is complicated. QM posits that measurement reduces to an Hermitian operator, but that is only true a priori for energy, where it is required for unitary evolution of the system. The rest seems to be an emergent behavior when the measured system becomes entangled with the measurement apparatus. There are recent experiments exploring the emergence of that property by using smaller and smaller measurement systems.

I am not an expert, but that is my current understanding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John Galt III</p>
<p>It is weird, but the distant electron spin doesn&#8217;t &#8220;switch&#8221;, it had a mixed state, neither up nor down. Same with the measured electron, measurement puts it in the up or down state. The entangled pair cannot be treated independently, that would violate the conservation of angular momentum, so the theory must  work that way to conform to the known laws of physics. Note that for the near particle state to be communicated to the distant observer takes place at the speed of light at best, so relativity isn&#8217;t violated, but there is a correlation between the two measurements even though they look independent to the observers making the measurements. It&#8217;s still weird, but perhaps less so.</p>
<p>It is the measurement process that is complicated. QM posits that measurement reduces to an Hermitian operator, but that is only true a priori for energy, where it is required for unitary evolution of the system. The rest seems to be an emergent behavior when the measured system becomes entangled with the measurement apparatus. There are recent experiments exploring the emergence of that property by using smaller and smaller measurement systems.</p>
<p>I am not an expert, but that is my current understanding.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 22:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ...&#039;Do you know that US Navy minesweepers are not designed for mine sweeping?&#039;

What *were* they designed for?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ&#8230;&#8217;Do you know that US Navy minesweepers are not designed for mine sweeping?&#8217;</p>
<p>What *were* they designed for?</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 22:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump has won in the ME because both Iran and China have conceded control of the Strait of Hormuz to the USA.

Thus, they are desperate for a deal.

Bullet points made by Matt Morse in the first 4m on YT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7aqE95Vu7w
Plus, another 10m background.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump has won in the ME because both Iran and China have conceded control of the Strait of Hormuz to the USA.</p>
<p>Thus, they are desperate for a deal.</p>
<p>Bullet points made by Matt Morse in the first 4m on YT. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7aqE95Vu7w" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7aqE95Vu7w</a><br />
Plus, another 10m background.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 21:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curious about the ongoing mine hunting sweeps of the Strait of Hormuz? Do you know that US Navy minesweepers are not designed for mine sweeping? No. Destroyers have been adapted for the task, getting it done slowly at 3 knots. They can do the channel in 20 sweeps, plus up to several redo&#039;s.

Why couldn&#039;t Iran provide mine locations? Because they were launched in great haste over a month during US military buildup. Records were sacrificed to timely necessity for de[;oyment. That&#039;s what needs to be dealt with.

West Texas Intermediate crude fell to $91 this afternoon. Markets expect tanker passage will resume soon. 

But how soon? Will clearance take the rest of the week? Or maybe next week? Navy Decoded at YT gives you the fundamentals and lovely and interesting visual details. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EYOoQx94IA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious about the ongoing mine hunting sweeps of the Strait of Hormuz? Do you know that US Navy minesweepers are not designed for mine sweeping? No. Destroyers have been adapted for the task, getting it done slowly at 3 knots. They can do the channel in 20 sweeps, plus up to several redo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Why couldn&#8217;t Iran provide mine locations? Because they were launched in great haste over a month during US military buildup. Records were sacrificed to timely necessity for de[;oyment. That&#8217;s what needs to be dealt with.</p>
<p>West Texas Intermediate crude fell to $91 this afternoon. Markets expect tanker passage will resume soon. </p>
<p>But how soon? Will clearance take the rest of the week? Or maybe next week? Navy Decoded at YT gives you the fundamentals and lovely and interesting visual details. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EYOoQx94IA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EYOoQx94IA</a></p>
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