There are at least 10-15 other pilots who have been shot down by the completely underestimated Iranian defenses, but no one has fixated on them yet, even the democrats (who don’t know how to best deal with such a huge gift of failure)

— Yanmark

OK, I should know better, but I’ll play. Sources and specifics and these other planes and pilots?

Yanmark is a “mark” all right. An Iranian/Russian/Chinese “mark.”

I doubt you are afraid at all. Mostly what you do here is disagree. And condescend.

In any event your response is so vague, that you will have to be to be more specific, before I’ll bother.

Completely false, I’m afraid. There are legitimate arguments to be made for our war with Iran, and I said as much. There were legitimate arguments for a war in Germany in 1936. But they are not the same arguments. I disagreed with people who explicitly said it was the same argument.

I don’t think Iran has much at all in common with 1930s Germany.

i agree with qualifications. Iran is not the threat to the world and the U.S. that Germany was. But they are just as much of a threat to Israel – they have openly discussed their nuclear annihilation.

At some level that is what you have to decide. I’ve had one argument about the war that got heated. The Canadian I was arguing with said he didn’t really care if Israel was obliterated. There you go, Do you? And are Trump’s actions making it less likely or more. I’m on my side because I do care, and I think Trump’s actions have a real shot of making things much better, or not a hell of a lot worse.

But we’ll never know for sure because we’ll never see the results of the road not taken.