I’m not saying different.

However, they came here about 20 years ago and certainly could have been successful enough by 2017 to buy that home without engaging in any shady activity, especially if they bought a home earlier that had appreciated significantly when they sold it.

This is all I intended to say. The random example of a home that was the first thing I saw on Zillow happened to be an extreme example. Next time I try to illustrate something with a real example I will try to find something more typical to avoid the distraction. I used to work with real estate investors and so I am not surprised when I see such things, which are, I agree, not typical.

That a family of Afghan immigrants can come to the US and own, in 2026, a $2.3 M house is not on its face a reason to suspect them of anything, and you and I seem to be on the same page here.

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Those plucky ISIS teens could easily have become pink mist.

You noticed that too. They were intending to kill kuffar and police so of course a righteous cause. (sarc x 11).

If their mostly peaceful devices had worked would they have produced more than Tsarnaev results?

I doubt there is any home in the US that appreciated that much, in that period, without being significantly fixed up (or even torn down and rebuilt on the same land) for a huge amount of money. Doubled, yes. Perhaps even tripled in rare cases. But not that amount. The terrorist’s paretns’ $2 million-plus home was in Newtown, PA. Here’s what the appreciation was there, according to Google AI:

Homes in Newtown Township, PA, have experienced significant appreciation since 2014, with some areas, such as the Newtown Grant community, seeing home values increase by approximately 75% over the 10-year period leading to 2025. This reflects a robust, long-term upward trend in the Bucks County real estate market. …

According to property records, the Kayumi family purchased their home in the Reserve at Makefield in Newtown, Pennsylvania, in 2017. …

The home was purchased in 2017 for just over $1 million.

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So it approximately doubled in price since 2017, or they may have put money into improving it. Either way, it’s a pricey home.

However, they came here about 20 years ago and certainly could have been successful enough by 2017 to buy that home without engaging in any shady activity, especially if they bought a home earlier that had appreciated significantly when they sold it.

More on their history:

But the Daily Mail can now reveal Kayumi comes from a seemingly hardworking family that co-owns a Popeyes chicken franchise and amassed a residential property portfolio worth more than $4.2 million, county records show.

He grew up in the small, wealthy Philadelphia suburb of Newtown and most recently lived in a $2.25 million mansion with his father Khayer and mother Shaysta. The home was raided by the FBI on Sunday but there is no suggestion of wrongdoing on his parents’ part.

Khayer Kayumi, 50, owns five other homes across Bucks County, Pennsylvania, which he appears to rent out, county property records showed.

In January, the businessman sued his Popeyes partner Shaima Ghafary, 48, for alleged fraud, breach of contract, and shareholder oppression.

Khayer and Shaysta, 46, are from Afghanistan and became naturalized US citizens in 2004 and 2009.

It is unclear when they first immigrated to the states, but Khayer was issued a Social Security number in New York in the early 1990s, according to public records.

Kayumi, also an American citizen, appears to have spent his entire life in the US. He graduated from Newtown’s Council Rock High School North in 2024.

The family rented apartments across Queens, New York before relocating to Bucks County in 2005, property records showed.

Khayer and Shaysta purchased their first Pennsylvania home in 2004 for $325,600. The 3,100 square foot single-family residence is now worth $587,300. Khayer and Shaysta, 46, are from Afghanistan and became naturalized US citizens in 2004 and 2009.

It is unclear when they first immigrated to the states, but Khayer was issued a Social Security number in New York in the early 1990s, according to public records.

Kayumi, also an American citizen, appears to have spent his entire life in the US. He graduated from Newtown’s Council Rock High School North in 2024.

The family rented apartments across Queens, New York before relocating to Bucks County in 2005, property records showed.

Khayer and Shaysta purchased their first Pennsylvania home in 2004 for $325,600. The 3,100 square foot single-family residence is now worth $587,300. …

The couple previously operated a Popeyes franchise in Brooklyn, New York. They purchased the restaurant for $160,000 in January 2010, according to a state tax appeal petition.

More at the link. Their wealth comes from operating the business and a series of successful real estate investments, not just that one house. There seems to be no evidence of illegality on their part.

Yeah, it is way over the average. It was just one of the first ones that came up when I looked at what was on the market. But that distribution’s average tells you nothing about the variation from the average, of course, which is quite considerable, and which is why people make money in real estate.

Perhaps it was a fixer-upper and then it was very much fixed up.

Which is hardly unheard of, especially in an area with surging home prices.

At any rate, normal people do own normal homes valued in the millions of dollars, depending on where they live and when they bought. My own home is not in as pricey an area as Bellevue, nonetheless it has gone up 2.5x in value since I bought it 12 years ago, and the equivalent in Bellevue would be between 1 and 2 million, and no one needs to suspect anything nefarious of me or my neighbors.

The houses on in the 200 block of Tina Drive in Langhorne PA appear to be more in the $600K – $800K range.

I know something about real estate in the Seattle/Bellevue area, and whatever is going on with that house, it’s WAY over the appreciation for the time period in that area. Homes did appreciate very significantly, but nothing like what you quote there. Perhaps it was a fixer-upper and then it was very much fixed up.

Here is AI Google, which pretty much reflects what I recall in the area also:

AI Overview
Real estate in Bellevue, WA, has experienced massive appreciation since 2014, with some estimates showing a roughly 117% increase in value over the last decade. Average home values have surged from under $1 million in previous years to roughly $1.35–$1.45 million by early 2026, driven by high demand and limited supply.

The quote you gave is an appreciation of 545%, by my calculations. I don’t think there’s anywhere in the US where anything like that happened between 2014 and now.

How many Afghan immigrants do you actually know?

How many would he have to know to give a valid statistical assessment of the income of Afgan or Turkish immigrants who became naturalized American citizens during the time of interest?

Otherwise you just have a different ‘opinion’ Nick. Nothing more.

Another “nothing to see?”