Comments on: Spain, the end of nationhood, and the wonderful migrants https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/ A blog about political change, among other things Mon, 23 Feb 2026 21:20:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842513 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 21:20:34 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842513 Spain was the dominate power in Europe until late in the 30 Years War.
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Spain had a period of pre-eminence. The last dominant power in Europe was Charlemagne. You want Spain’s agricultural productivity ca. 1600, it’s all yours.

]]> By: Don https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842510 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 20:50:16 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842510 Art Deco seems to be my view that Spain hit its high point around 1588 as well.

Spain was the dominate power in Europe until late in the 30 Years War.

]]> By: Chris Stoneking https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842505 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 20:37:04 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842505 Globalism is the goal, and unchecked immigration is the process they’re using to achieve it.

]]> By: Don https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842504 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 20:35:10 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842504 Dave L. on February 22, 2026 at 2:37 am said:
One of the unmentioned problems with demographic decline, or even insufficiently rapid population growth, is that government old age pensions are basically Ponzi schemes. In order to avoid raising the taxes that fund the pensions, you need a continually expanding (and exponentially at that) workforce.

But the imported workforce will make significant use of welfare while the ones who work will be a low pay jobs. And they will have high crime rates, etc.

They are not going to pay the bills.

]]> By: om https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842478 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 16:04:29 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842478 van Gough’s “The Potato Eaters” captured the elite’s view of the poor citizens of Europe. Quite controversial at the time. Little has changed.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842471 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 15:21:04 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842471 They certainly have the same structure as a Ponzi scheme:
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No, they don’t

]]> By: HC68 https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842443 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 01:58:17 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842443

It isn’t ‘compassion’. Illegal immigrants and bogus refugees are a political tool.

— Art Deco

This. One thousand times this.

All the talk of ‘moral duties’ and ‘tolerance and diversity’, and all the rest, it’s garbage. Noise. The signal, ever since the 1970s, has been that the business-wing Right wants to import customers and labor to keep wages down and maintain sales, and the Left wants to dilute the native population for various reasons, some of which boil down to sheer hatred and contempt on the part of the educated elite Left for their own countrymen and culture.

(There was a Labour figure in Britain who admitted that one reason Tony Blair’s Government was so gung ho on immigration was to ‘rub the Right’s nose in diversity’.)

It’s a mistake to get bogged down in an argument with an establishment figure about the glories of immigration, because they themselves don’t care about that (well, some do, but not the ones who matter). The elite class hates and fears the commoners.

]]> By: Jimmy https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842433 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 00:44:11 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842433 is that government old age pensions are basically Ponzi schemes.
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They aren’t.

They certainly have the same structure as a Ponzi scheme: The money coming in gets used to pay the money going out rather than being invested. The only real difference is that the money keeps coming in because it’s required by law, so it can’t collapse like a voluntary scheme, though it can certainly run short on incoming funds. I doubt anyone under 40 or even 50 would pay into Social Security voluntarily.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842431 Mon, 23 Feb 2026 00:14:42 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842431 Art Deco seems to be my view that Spain hit its high point around 1588 as well.
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Why not compare economic historians’ estimates of per capita product in 1588 and any time later?

]]> By: Skip https://thenewneo.com/2026/02/21/spain-the-end-of-nationhood-and-the-wonderful-migrants/#comment-2842419 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 22:52:41 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=147183#comment-2842419 Art Deco seems to be my view that Spain hit its high point around 1588 as well.

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