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		By: om		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[They also have the oh so concerned fellow travelers on the interwebs (e.g. BJ) posting misinformation in comments to shape the narrative.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Forward!  The arc of history bends towards &quot;progress&quot; and &quot;by any means necessary.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also have the oh so concerned fellow travelers on the interwebs (e.g. BJ) posting misinformation in comments to shape the narrative.</p>
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Forward!  The arc of history bends towards &#8220;progress&#8221; and &#8220;by any means necessary.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2026 01:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Army Mom&#039;s link, in the top-posted comment, goes to a very good Legal Insurrection post, but the final tweet, which is not expanded there, is very important.
I certainly hope the funding for the Left dries up even more, now that we know they are embezzling from the US taxpayers to fund enterprises to ... destroy the US taxpayers.

https://x.com/LukeTaylorUSA/status/2011147517262774298

&lt;blockquote&gt;Pause for a moment and notice something..

Look at this video from the perspective of “layers”

Layer 1: you have frontline agitators who physically encroach but do nothing else aside from yell &#038; hurl vulgarity

Layer 2: Behind layer1 you have those I call grapplers. They will swoop in and shove or pull on an agent then fall back behind layer1.

Layer 3: Noise &#038; light obstructionists. They blow whistles, bullhorns, honk car horns, beat on drums or trash can lids.. maximum auditory infusion to make a scene appear to be chaotic. To appear to be out of control

Layer 4: The “press people”. These people have vests on and press badges but are not members of any press corps. They immediately move to capture images and video of any action by agents. They are constantly taking pictures of agents faces. Every image is scoured later for any and all ways to doxx or publicly ID law enforcement for obvious reasons

Every bit of this is optics. Every bit of this is rehearsed &#038; practiced. These people have training. These videos are a production so they can frame law enforcement with selectively edited video with one goal in mind… one end-state objective:

To erode public support of Operarion At Large

They need sound bites &#038; slick video clips to run on the evening news cycle (the MSM are their allies in this end-state objective)

That’s what this is all about

It’s a play straight out of the psychological operations manual  being used against law enforcement by a communist insurgency

&lt;b&gt;They have training. They have funding. They have singular purpose. This is an insurgency&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
The REAL kind of insurgency.

Luke&#039;s tweet is responding to this one:
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2011130745125826859]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Army Mom&#8217;s link, in the top-posted comment, goes to a very good Legal Insurrection post, but the final tweet, which is not expanded there, is very important.<br />
I certainly hope the funding for the Left dries up even more, now that we know they are embezzling from the US taxpayers to fund enterprises to &#8230; destroy the US taxpayers.</p>
<p><a href="https://x.com/LukeTaylorUSA/status/2011147517262774298" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/LukeTaylorUSA/status/2011147517262774298</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Pause for a moment and notice something..</p>
<p>Look at this video from the perspective of “layers”</p>
<p>Layer 1: you have frontline agitators who physically encroach but do nothing else aside from yell &amp; hurl vulgarity</p>
<p>Layer 2: Behind layer1 you have those I call grapplers. They will swoop in and shove or pull on an agent then fall back behind layer1.</p>
<p>Layer 3: Noise &amp; light obstructionists. They blow whistles, bullhorns, honk car horns, beat on drums or trash can lids.. maximum auditory infusion to make a scene appear to be chaotic. To appear to be out of control</p>
<p>Layer 4: The “press people”. These people have vests on and press badges but are not members of any press corps. They immediately move to capture images and video of any action by agents. They are constantly taking pictures of agents faces. Every image is scoured later for any and all ways to doxx or publicly ID law enforcement for obvious reasons</p>
<p>Every bit of this is optics. Every bit of this is rehearsed &amp; practiced. These people have training. These videos are a production so they can frame law enforcement with selectively edited video with one goal in mind… one end-state objective:</p>
<p>To erode public support of Operarion At Large</p>
<p>They need sound bites &amp; slick video clips to run on the evening news cycle (the MSM are their allies in this end-state objective)</p>
<p>That’s what this is all about</p>
<p>It’s a play straight out of the psychological operations manual  being used against law enforcement by a communist insurgency</p>
<p><b>They have training. They have funding. They have singular purpose. This is an insurgency</b></p>
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<p>The REAL kind of insurgency.</p>
<p>Luke&#8217;s tweet is responding to this one:<br />
<a href="https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2011130745125826859" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2011130745125826859</a></p>
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		By: Turtler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 23:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@BJ

&lt;blockquote&gt; No. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Excuse me? The idea that LEOs do not have the duty or right to defend themselves so they can go home is absurd. It may not be their primary duty or responsibility any more than a soldier’s is, but it is a part of it. In part due to it is tied to the inherent rights of humanity, and one’s rights as a citizen in particular. It may be a right and duty that has limits placed upon it due to the duties of a law enforcement officer in much the same way a firefighter also has those, but it is never entirely removed.

 &lt;blockquote&gt; The primary duty of a police officer is to protect and serve the public.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is a comforting illusion, but that is in fact what it is. An illusion. There’s a reason why multiple legal precedents exist that establish how police do not have a specific legal obligation to defend you, often under rather absurd or harsh cases. Warren vs DC and Castle Rock vs Gonzalez come to mind. The police have a general duty to protect the public and its welfare, but that duty is general and limited. Their overriding charge is to protect and enforce The Law. Which may be a good that will help protect others in the long run, but which also means counting on them to protect or defend you or the public is a bad idea.
Especially as police may be called upon to enforce laws that “the public” hates, rightfully or wrongly.

&lt;blockquote&gt; That’s why LEO candidates are psychologically screened, given at least six months of rigorous training at the police academy, and constantly monitored and screened thereafter. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And not, ya know, that psychological screening has become much more common throughout multiple businesses and how LEOs do not as a general rule want jittery, PTSD addled officers or staff walking the streets or policing temporary holding cells for their own purpose. Totally.

&lt;blockquote&gt; Want to be an FBI agent? That means at least two years of law school, &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And anyone who has studied the newly released information from the FBI admitting they had no probable cause to raid Mar a Lago should see how that worked.

&lt;blockquote&gt; in addition to all the other tests a LEO has to pass. Very, very few people make the cut at a competent police department.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And several of those that get washed out the hardest are idealists who actually uncritically believe TV soap opera cop shows and advocate Protect and Serve the Public as the main duty of police to the extent of things like trying to shoot out the tires of a car driving at you.

&lt;blockquote&gt; If all you want to do is be safe and go home to your family at the end of the day, there are thousands of jobs where you can do that. But being a LEO is not one of them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Correct but that does not mean officers do not have the right and duty to defend themselves so they can go home, or that it can and does supersede several others. It just is that it comes in second or lower banana to other considerations like enforcement of the law and maintenance of peace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BJ</p>
<blockquote><p> No. </p></blockquote>
<p>Excuse me? The idea that LEOs do not have the duty or right to defend themselves so they can go home is absurd. It may not be their primary duty or responsibility any more than a soldier’s is, but it is a part of it. In part due to it is tied to the inherent rights of humanity, and one’s rights as a citizen in particular. It may be a right and duty that has limits placed upon it due to the duties of a law enforcement officer in much the same way a firefighter also has those, but it is never entirely removed.</p>
<blockquote><p> The primary duty of a police officer is to protect and serve the public.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a comforting illusion, but that is in fact what it is. An illusion. There’s a reason why multiple legal precedents exist that establish how police do not have a specific legal obligation to defend you, often under rather absurd or harsh cases. Warren vs DC and Castle Rock vs Gonzalez come to mind. The police have a general duty to protect the public and its welfare, but that duty is general and limited. Their overriding charge is to protect and enforce The Law. Which may be a good that will help protect others in the long run, but which also means counting on them to protect or defend you or the public is a bad idea.<br />
Especially as police may be called upon to enforce laws that “the public” hates, rightfully or wrongly.</p>
<blockquote><p> That’s why LEO candidates are psychologically screened, given at least six months of rigorous training at the police academy, and constantly monitored and screened thereafter. </p></blockquote>
<p>And not, ya know, that psychological screening has become much more common throughout multiple businesses and how LEOs do not as a general rule want jittery, PTSD addled officers or staff walking the streets or policing temporary holding cells for their own purpose. Totally.</p>
<blockquote><p> Want to be an FBI agent? That means at least two years of law school, </p></blockquote>
<p>And anyone who has studied the newly released information from the FBI admitting they had no probable cause to raid Mar a Lago should see how that worked.</p>
<blockquote><p> in addition to all the other tests a LEO has to pass. Very, very few people make the cut at a competent police department.</p></blockquote>
<p>And several of those that get washed out the hardest are idealists who actually uncritically believe TV soap opera cop shows and advocate Protect and Serve the Public as the main duty of police to the extent of things like trying to shoot out the tires of a car driving at you.</p>
<blockquote><p> If all you want to do is be safe and go home to your family at the end of the day, there are thousands of jobs where you can do that. But being a LEO is not one of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Correct but that does not mean officers do not have the right and duty to defend themselves so they can go home, or that it can and does supersede several others. It just is that it comes in second or lower banana to other considerations like enforcement of the law and maintenance of peace.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@BJ:&lt;i&gt;If all you want to do is be safe and go home to your family at the end of the day, there are thousands of jobs where you can do that. But being a LEO is not one of them.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bls.gov/charts/census-of-fatal-occupational-injuries/civilian-occupations-with-high-fatal-work-injury-rates.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;LEO is not even in the top 10 of fatality rates by occupation.&lt;/a&gt; Granted that it&#039;s more dangerous than most people&#039;s work. Logging, fishing and hunting, roofing, garbage collection, and aircraft pilots / flight engineers are the occupations with the highest fatality rates. LEO fatality rate is about half of the #10 structural iron and steel workers.

Lot of jobs carry a risk of death; lots of jobs carry a risk of killing other people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BJ:<i>If all you want to do is be safe and go home to your family at the end of the day, there are thousands of jobs where you can do that. But being a LEO is not one of them.</i></p>
<p><a href="https://www.bls.gov/charts/census-of-fatal-occupational-injuries/civilian-occupations-with-high-fatal-work-injury-rates.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">LEO is not even in the top 10 of fatality rates by occupation.</a> Granted that it&#8217;s more dangerous than most people&#8217;s work. Logging, fishing and hunting, roofing, garbage collection, and aircraft pilots / flight engineers are the occupations with the highest fatality rates. LEO fatality rate is about half of the #10 structural iron and steel workers.</p>
<p>Lot of jobs carry a risk of death; lots of jobs carry a risk of killing other people.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The primary duty of Law Enforcement Officers is, wait for it, it requires reading comprehension, to &lt;b&gt;enforce the law&lt;/b&gt;.

Some laws are focused on protecting the safety of the citizens and general public.  As opposed to protecting the world at large from OMB.

Children who can&#039;t read or think make bad citizens and bad decisions. Like BJ.

BJ&#039;s next point?  ICE and CBP aren&#039;t real LEOs?  It&#039;s one of the leftist scripts.  Gets people killed.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, BJ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary duty of Law Enforcement Officers is, wait for it, it requires reading comprehension, to <b>enforce the law</b>.</p>
<p>Some laws are focused on protecting the safety of the citizens and general public.  As opposed to protecting the world at large from OMB.</p>
<p>Children who can&#8217;t read or think make bad citizens and bad decisions. Like BJ.</p>
<p>BJ&#8217;s next point?  ICE and CBP aren&#8217;t real LEOs?  It&#8217;s one of the leftist scripts.  Gets people killed.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, BJ.</p>
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		By: BJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@charles,

No. The primary duty of a police officer is to protect and serve the public. That’s why LEO candidates are psychologically screened, given at least six months of rigorous training at the police academy, and constantly monitored and screened thereafter. Want to be an FBI agent? That means at least two years of law school, in addition to all the other tests a LEO has to pass. Very, very few people make the cut at a competent police department.

If all you want to do is be safe and go home to your family at the end of the day, there are thousands of jobs where you can do that. But being a LEO is not one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@charles,</p>
<p>No. The primary duty of a police officer is to protect and serve the public. That’s why LEO candidates are psychologically screened, given at least six months of rigorous training at the police academy, and constantly monitored and screened thereafter. Want to be an FBI agent? That means at least two years of law school, in addition to all the other tests a LEO has to pass. Very, very few people make the cut at a competent police department.</p>
<p>If all you want to do is be safe and go home to your family at the end of the day, there are thousands of jobs where you can do that. But being a LEO is not one of them.</p>
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		By: BJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 09:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om,

Ouch! Good one, Grandpa. But you better get your eyeglasses checked: the only one partying with furries is Trump. You can check out his Mar a Lago gala for guests in canine masks.

https://people.com/mar-a-lago-gala-dog-masks-rococo-gowns-11886133]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om,</p>
<p>Ouch! Good one, Grandpa. But you better get your eyeglasses checked: the only one partying with furries is Trump. You can check out his Mar a Lago gala for guests in canine masks.</p>
<p><a href="https://people.com/mar-a-lago-gala-dog-masks-rococo-gowns-11886133" rel="nofollow ugc">https://people.com/mar-a-lago-gala-dog-masks-rococo-gowns-11886133</a></p>
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		By: charles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 06:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I find somewhat interesting is that many on the left call others intolerant or unsympathetic; but, they are showing by their own actions how unsympathetic they are themselves.

When a police office is surrounded by several people all shouting at/harassing him it is only natural for him to assume (and previous actions of other agitators support this) that his life could be in danger.  

That officer has not only the right, but the duty to his family, to defend himself to go home safely to his family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find somewhat interesting is that many on the left call others intolerant or unsympathetic; but, they are showing by their own actions how unsympathetic they are themselves.</p>
<p>When a police office is surrounded by several people all shouting at/harassing him it is only natural for him to assume (and previous actions of other agitators support this) that his life could be in danger.  </p>
<p>That officer has not only the right, but the duty to his family, to defend himself to go home safely to his family.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 05:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Cook on January 14, 2026 at 1:51 pm:
&quot;We have been letting state governments get away with encroaching on areas belonging to the feds. There does not seem to be any downside for the states. This is one area where the states need to be crushed.&quot;
Not disagreeing with you, but this also draws out the parallel that we have also been letting the federal government get away with encroaching on areas belonging to the states.

Perhaps welfare is an example:
https://lawliberty.org/the-unconstitutionality-of-social-security-and-medicare/  
https://x.com/ilan_wurman/status/2005815709071286588]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Cook on January 14, 2026 at 1:51 pm:<br />
&#8220;We have been letting state governments get away with encroaching on areas belonging to the feds. There does not seem to be any downside for the states. This is one area where the states need to be crushed.&#8221;<br />
Not disagreeing with you, but this also draws out the parallel that we have also been letting the federal government get away with encroaching on areas belonging to the states.</p>
<p>Perhaps welfare is an example:<br />
<a href="https://lawliberty.org/the-unconstitutionality-of-social-security-and-medicare/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://lawliberty.org/the-unconstitutionality-of-social-security-and-medicare/</a><br />
<a href="https://x.com/ilan_wurman/status/2005815709071286588" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/ilan_wurman/status/2005815709071286588</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 02:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tourists to Yellowstone Park who get out of their cars to photograph buffaloes sometimes are surprised when the buffaloes charge.]]></description>
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