H/T Instapundit

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https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1Bz61P2vBs/

This needs to be signal boosted ASAP.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/06/dhs-secretary-kristi-noem-hits-streets-ice-agents-major-minneapolis-enforcement

Turtler – I don’t even read your screeds anymore.

Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

You declared you stopped reading my posts months ago, but since then have selectively made replies showing that you have done so. Which does nothing to help your credibility. Moreover, it amuses me that your particular flavor of bitching in this post contains proof that you can and do read my posts.

So you are not beating the allegations.

If you can make a point in three paragraphs or less, without name-calling, I’ll read it and respond.

Oh, how generous! The CC Bauxite pledges on their honor that if I am more concise and avoid being brutally blunt in response to their gaslighting, insults, and insanity, they will respond!

But wait…. how the FUCK would you know if my post has namecalling (like this past one does) if you DIDN’T read the last one?

Hmmmm… makes you think, don’t it?

For the record Bauxite, I am no longer particularly interested in what you could reply in, because after months of good faith efforts to discourse with you, you have persistently displayed a dishonest and mean streak, especially when it comes to the Great Orange Whale. This included you insulting and gaslighting me and others such as Kate.

So what you say is not particularly interesting to me for a couple different reasons, starting with the fact that you consistently fail to argue your way out of a paper bag when it comes to Trump, and going on to the fact that you have a provable track record of dishonesty.

So I’m replying to you not because I think you will reply to me, and even less because I think you will actually ANSWER me in any particularly worthwhile way. I reply for the benefit of others like Kate, Don, om, and the Blogmother, because I think someone should give your particular flavor of sophistry the in depth, Brandolini’s Law endorsed treatment.

As for “namecalling”, I call it as I see it, and can justify and provide proofs for each and every single “name” I have called you.

The fact that you apparently lie and gaslight about basics such as *if you read my post* in THIS VERY COMMENT should do it.

If you want to be taken seriously, grow up, stop being Ahab pursuing the Great Orange Whale, and treat the commentors on this blog with the seriousness and respect people want to be treated.

Otherwise, it’s not worth my time.

Oh. But posting umpteen comments using double standards about Trump and lying about things such as the involvement of illegal immigrants in Somali Fraud, Khalil being an illegal immigrant (even if one disguising himself as a legal one much like Omar did), and lying about whether you read my “namecalling” posts is. Totally.

And then you wonder why people – including those that aren’t me – notice something is off.

I’ll remind you that Mighty Casey in the poem failed Mudville and struck out, in large part because of his haughty folly in refusing to play the game or make an effort until the last moment, and failing to do so.

Kate, to answer your question, no, by my reasoning the shootings in Portland would not be Trump’s fault.

Good people, observe how Bauxite – upon being pushed to admit SOMETHING isn’t Trump’s fault – resorts to double standards and other forms of intellectual laziness and dishonesty in an attempt to make the point.

This is because the two things that I pointed out about MN don’t apply to Portland. First, Portland has a healthy dose of crazy most of the time,

Ok, so Portland has a “healthy dose” of crazy most of the time, but not so in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul, or wider in Minneapolis?

Riiiiight.

This is where wisdom would indicate you should stop digging the hole you’ve found yourself in.

but there’s nothing going on there that is anything like the Somali fraud scandal in MN.

And how would you know?

Portland has become a Northern extension of the California Bay Area in so many ways, and that includes major illegal migrants (and “legal” and actually legal but criminal migrant) operations, as well as a corrupt radically leftist government that has enabled networking by ANTIFA terrorism (as Andrew Ngo can attest) and massive amounts of Fraud.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/09/27/trump-authorizes-troops-to-protect-portland-ice-facilities-from-antifa/

https://www.theblaze.com/news/portland-contract-left-wing-outfit-prison-fraud

So if you were intellectually honest, you would acknowledge that the Twin Cities of Minneapolis (and doubtless other places) have at least comparable “healthy amounts of crazy” as Portland, and that systematic leftist corruption and enabling of ANTIFA, cartels, and fraud would mean we don’t know the scale of misdeeds around Portland.

But as we’ve established, you’re not intellectually honest.

(PS: This is why I feel no need to limit myself to “three paragraphs or less.” Because I’d much rather spend my time making All The Points (or at least all those I think of making) than trying to appease someone who is fundamentally unappeasable and acting in provably bad faith by limiting my comments to three paragraphs or less while still making one. And I note you have never bothered limiting yourself to such a length limit.)

Second, to my knowledge at least, there was no surge of ICE agents to Portland.

https://www.axios.com/local/portland/2025/07/23/ice-arrests-immigration-noncriminals-oregon

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2025/10/videos-ice-arrests-3-antifa-terrorists-in-massive-show-of-force-in-portland/

https://gazetteller.com/full-breakdown-100-nights-of-coordinated-attacks-on-portlands-ice-facility-funded-by-globalist-networks-covered-by-local-puppets-trump-just-deployed-federal-force-and-cracked-th/

Firstly: Under normal circumstances I’d be inclined to take “to my knowledge at least” as an honest admission of limited awareness and attention, a problem that affects all of us. But when it comes from you on issues like this, it appears very distinctly Clintonian, “I cannot recall” and all that.

Secondly: One reason why ICE’s increased deployments and activities to Portland are less evident now than in say MN are because they have been overwhelmingly focused on trying to crack down on attacks on their facility in the city, and arrests there, and because a few surges happened years ago.

The shootings there were part of ordinary law enforcement activities.

Note that Bauxite does fuck all to describe or clarify what “ordinary law enforcement activities” are.

Note moreover that surging ICE and other Federal Law Enforcement assets to a place where you have reasonable expectation of immigration related crimes (like oh I dunno immigrants – whether legal, “legal”, or outright illegal – committing massive amounts of fraud, financing terrorism, and electing the daughter of a genocidaire who lied on her documents to the House of Representatives) IS A PART of “ordinary law enforcement activities.”

Bauxite wants to play Humpty Dumpty and demands he gets to define what words mean, and what is and isn’t “ordinary law enforcement activities.”

And moreover claim that Trump seeking to APPLY THE BLACK LETTER LAW to the likes of Ilhan Omar amounts to “trolling 100%”. Because it’s not like there’s anything of urgency regarding billions of dollars in fraud and an unrepentant genocide apologist who “probably” obtained citizenship through illegal fraud and “probably” married her brother to help similar! And I say again: you wonder why people take you less seriously.

Trump’s MO is attack, attack, attack.

Not really. It probably looks like that if you get most of your sources from the MSM, as I’ve established you are wont to do from your massive blind spots and willingness to signal boost their propaganda. And he does it far more than I often like, and he does have his petty and childish streaks (as the “Presidential Walk of Fame” shows).

But he has been used to playing defense, as even a cursory look at the past years shows.

And more importantly, Minnesota and Portland are examples where attack attack attack IS THE CORRECT AND JUSTIFIED APPROACH. We can split hairs about whether or not the attacks are made in the correct or most optimal fashion, but the fact remains that we have ironclad evidence of grotesque crimes being abetted and covered up by the left wing swamp there, where the only remedy is deployment of Federal forces like ICE and others.

This is also why to those of us that lived through things like the W Years (marked by things like Karl Rove’s suicidal advocacy for not bothering to refute claims like how we hadn’t found Iraqi WMD or the Rather/Mapes “fax” fraud about Bush being a draft dodger), we are much more inclined to put up with Trump’s foibles when he does this. “I cannot spare this man, he fights.”

Sometimes that’s good. Sometimes its reckless.

And here, Minnesota has a situation where however “reckless” an ICE Surge is, NOT surging ICE and other forces there would be more reckless.

His natural response to the Somali fraud scandal was to attack, attack, attack by sending in an ICE surge that was almost wholly unrelated to addressing the scandal.

“Almost wholly unrelated.”

Once again, Bauxite tries to bury the lede. But also probably knows on some level that the first reaction some of us would have to him trying to claim the ICE deployment was “wholly unrelated” would be to dig to find at least one provable case of an illegal immigrant involved in the scandals and slap him over the face. Hence the equivocation. Hence the hedge.

The problem is that by doing so, he destroys the foundation of his argument in the first place and fully justifies the decision to surge ICE. He just doesn’t want to admit it because Orange Man Bad.

In any case, the reasons why ICE is related to the Minnesota Fraud Scandals and would need to be employed even if it could be proven far more than it actually has been that the frauds were perpetrated by natural born citizens or actually-legal-not-illegals-hiding-through-fraud-like-Omar immigrants are something I dealt with in my previous comment.

I’m not sure why its so difficult for some around here to acknowledge that, hey, maybe that wasn’t such a good idea.

Ah yes, god forbid Trump believe that the federal law enforcement agency specifically dedicated to Immigration Crimes and Enforcing Penalties for them be involved in investigations of a massive crime network involving conspiracies of both Legal and Illegal immigrants in Minnesota, protected by the left wing DFL machine there, which would require a lot of investigation into peoples’ immigration status and probably denaturalization and deportation.

It truly taxes the mind.

I am half inclined to ask Bauxite under what circumstances he would find an ICE surge to Minnesota justified even if done by the Great Orange Whale, but I have no confidence he’d be able to give a competent or honest answer. Certainly not one consistent with what they’ve written before. And besides, he’s already stated he does not read my posts anyway, he just is able to determine whether they include “namecalling” by dint of psychic energy from Hyperborea or something.

I’m certainly not absolving the victim or the leftist politicians and agitators who egged her on. They are primarily responsible for what happened.

Which is really all that matters.

I’m not saying that ICE should have abandoned MN.

Just that it should not have been “surged” to deal with the cracking of a wide array of immigrant related crimes, and the need to investigate them to decide who is guilty, who needs deportation, who needs imprisonment, and who needs denaturalization in addition to the aforementioned.

How refusing to address such crimes would not be tantamount to “abandoning” Minnesota like has defacto been allowed to happen multiple times in living memory is beyond me, but then I am not Bauxite.

I’m not saying that ICE shouldn’t have surged at all,

Just not in Minnesota in regards to enforcement of penalties for crimes like those widespread here. Because it’s not like ICE isn’t involved in legitimately enforcing the law against those that immigrated legally or anything. Especially since one of its stated purviews is combating transnational crime, which even crimes committed 100% by crooks that actually immigrated here legally would involve.

just that perhaps, this month, it would have been more prudent to surge somewhere else.

Ok. Where? Why?

Like I mentioned before, this is one of the greatest fraud scandals in American history and directly ties in to terrorism and crime on a massive scale. It centers around the corrupt radical leftist DFL administration that protected it, and Somalis of various flavors and legal standing that helped enable it. That is a suite of problems ICE would *have to be involved in solving* given the large number of people who obtained citizenship fraudulently, who are otherwise in the country illegally, or who aren’t but have committed crimes justifying denaturalization.

Even when you choose not to focus on or acknowledge these facts, the very best you can push is that the fraud cases are “ALMOST wholly” unrelated to illegal immigration.

Some of us know better, but that’s still a damning and self-defeating admission.

Maybe, just maybe, Trump taking a flamethrower to an already smoldering fire wasn’t the best choice.

And maybe if you want to deal with a smoldering fire that is ruining very real peoples’ lives unjustly and entrenching radical, terrorist supporting leftist groups, you need to “attack attack attack.”

To quote a late but great researcher and journalist of much calmer temperament and methodical approach than Cheeto Don:

“Walk toward the fire. Don’t worry about what they call you. All those things are said against you because they want to stop you in your tracks. But if you keep going, you’re sending a message to people who are rooting for you, who are agreeing with you. The message is that they can do it, too.”

Sometimes you need to run towards the fire with a flamethrower, a water cannon, or both.

Again, I’m not sure what it’s so hard to admit that.

It’s not hard to admit that. It’s just that I don’t see it is a correct conclusion in this case for the reasons I’ve mentioned.

Well my apologies on both parts there. Particularly on the latter. Normally I try to avoid doing that. But Bauxite has a history and I am thoroughly sick of his particular flavor of bad faith gaslighting. And I know it is gaslighting and bad faith due to a couple things like the persistence of several things.

Still, do what you feel necessary with your time.

I don’t. As far as I’m concerned, comments are best limited to a screenful, at most two. Anything more IMO is rude. I suppose there are exceptions, but it had better be Really Good Stuff.

Furthermore, Turtler salts his comments with emotionally loaded language which makes them unpleasant venting in my book and doubly not worth my time.

Why does this even matter? The left will respond to ICE wherever Trump sends them.

ICE should be sent where they can do the most good. Antifa is going to react bad wherever he sends them.

The possibility of this type of incident shouldn’t dictate ICE policy, otherwise we are allowing the left to set that policy.

You just want to bash Trump, and twist anything to do that.

It (fraud against Federal social programs) seems to be a “feature, not a bug” in Democrat-run states.

IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MORE THAN SIX YEARS, CC™.

MORE THAN SIX YEARS, Bauxite (CC™).

You said you would be eating crow after November 2024. After this bit you just posted no crow is safe on this continent.