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		By: neo		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[csimon:

Owens&#039; Jew-hatred is in Der Sturmer territtory,  But several others are not far behind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>csimon:</p>
<p>Owens&#8217; Jew-hatred is in Der Sturmer territtory,  But several others are not far behind.</p>
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		By: csimon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had not previously seen the video of Candace Owens and her harangue against Ben Shapiro - which is not just against Shapiro, but is vehemently against Jews. I was shocked (not that I am unaware of Owens anti-Semitism at this point) but the libel she spreads blaming African slavery on Jews (when it was, in fact, Africans who initially enslaved and traded other Africans to merchants who carried them for resale across the oceans). It made me sick. I don&#039;t know what moved her to this extreme (or if she was always this way and masked it as her public profile grew thanks to Charlie Kirk whose name she repeatedly invokes to make it appear that he was like-minded and just as virulently anti-Semitic as she). She doesn&#039;t have the courage or integrity to let her vicious pronouncements stand as her own, The only thing worse than what she says is she piles on referencing  publications inaccurately (as Neo pointed out) to try to destroy Ben Shapiro and Jews as a whole.  And the only thing worse than all of this is that she has an audience who consumes this hatred and the lies.  Does she do it for influence?  For money? Is she raising her children to think like this? I can&#039;t believe I once thought she was bright, smart, articulate and doing good things. Maybe she was - then? What she spews now is vile, and I fear for the influence she has with current followers. Her words send a chill through me. But I&#039;m someone who is pretty well-informed and am capable of critical thinking.  Just knowing her public persona before, and being aware of how she has morphed into a hateful, racist (and she will no doubt object to that pointing out that she is married to a white man). Ugh. Triple ugh!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not previously seen the video of Candace Owens and her harangue against Ben Shapiro &#8211; which is not just against Shapiro, but is vehemently against Jews. I was shocked (not that I am unaware of Owens anti-Semitism at this point) but the libel she spreads blaming African slavery on Jews (when it was, in fact, Africans who initially enslaved and traded other Africans to merchants who carried them for resale across the oceans). It made me sick. I don&#8217;t know what moved her to this extreme (or if she was always this way and masked it as her public profile grew thanks to Charlie Kirk whose name she repeatedly invokes to make it appear that he was like-minded and just as virulently anti-Semitic as she). She doesn&#8217;t have the courage or integrity to let her vicious pronouncements stand as her own, The only thing worse than what she says is she piles on referencing  publications inaccurately (as Neo pointed out) to try to destroy Ben Shapiro and Jews as a whole.  And the only thing worse than all of this is that she has an audience who consumes this hatred and the lies.  Does she do it for influence?  For money? Is she raising her children to think like this? I can&#8217;t believe I once thought she was bright, smart, articulate and doing good things. Maybe she was &#8211; then? What she spews now is vile, and I fear for the influence she has with current followers. Her words send a chill through me. But I&#8217;m someone who is pretty well-informed and am capable of critical thinking.  Just knowing her public persona before, and being aware of how she has morphed into a hateful, racist (and she will no doubt object to that pointing out that she is married to a white man). Ugh. Triple ugh!</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 13:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Christopher B:

I don&#039;t see your point. Of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; NeverTrumpers jumped on it; they hate Trump as much or more than most Democrats do.  Why would they defend him? They&#039;re not a large or influential bunch in the GOP, however, although they were a tad more numerous in 2017 when Charlottesville happened.  There were some GOP members who defended him; &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/18/republicans-rip-media-praise-trump/6862959007/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHis%20statement%20on%20Monday%20was,Featured%20Weekly%20Ad&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;see this&lt;/a&gt;, for example.

There is absolutely a stopping point, as well, in deciding whom to condemn. I have zero problem finding a stopping point, and it should be clear to every politician as well what his or her stopping point would be. It wouldn&#039;t be the &lt;i&gt;same&lt;/i&gt; stopping point for everyone, of course. But saying it&#039;s all or nothing - if you condemn one there&#039;s no stopping point and you somehow must condemn all - makes zero sense to me.  

Did you listen to Shapiro&#039;s actual speech? If not, I suggest you do. It was not about being against anti-Semitism; that was a mere subset of what needs condemning about Owens et al.  His speech pointed out some much more general problems than that, having nothing to do with Israel or Jews.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher B:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see your point. Of <i>course</i> NeverTrumpers jumped on it; they hate Trump as much or more than most Democrats do.  Why would they defend him? They&#8217;re not a large or influential bunch in the GOP, however, although they were a tad more numerous in 2017 when Charlottesville happened.  There were some GOP members who defended him; <a href="https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/18/republicans-rip-media-praise-trump/6862959007/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHis%20statement%20on%20Monday%20was,Featured%20Weekly%20Ad" rel="nofollow ugc">see this</a>, for example.</p>
<p>There is absolutely a stopping point, as well, in deciding whom to condemn. I have zero problem finding a stopping point, and it should be clear to every politician as well what his or her stopping point would be. It wouldn&#8217;t be the <i>same</i> stopping point for everyone, of course. But saying it&#8217;s all or nothing &#8211; if you condemn one there&#8217;s no stopping point and you somehow must condemn all &#8211; makes zero sense to me.  </p>
<p>Did you listen to Shapiro&#8217;s actual speech? If not, I suggest you do. It was not about being against anti-Semitism; that was a mere subset of what needs condemning about Owens et al.  His speech pointed out some much more general problems than that, having nothing to do with Israel or Jews.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 13:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Every Never Trumper jumped on the bandwagon&lt;/i&gt;
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Don&#039;t know about &#039;every&#039;.  There isn&#039;t much of a NeverTrump residue anymore.  Mona Charen will subscribe to every kind of nonsense, including E. Jean Carroll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Every Never Trumper jumped on the bandwagon</i><br />
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Don&#8217;t know about &#8216;every&#8217;.  There isn&#8217;t much of a NeverTrump residue anymore.  Mona Charen will subscribe to every kind of nonsense, including E. Jean Carroll.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 13:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jimmy:

The strawman in that sentence I wrote about was this: &quot;Let me add that it’s a strawman to pretend that the issue at hand is the demand that Vance or any other politician condemn people for disagreeing with Israeli policy or the current Israeli government.&quot;  In other words, the strawman is that &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; is what people are asking Vance to do. But it&#039;s not what people are asking him to do.

Plus, on the issue you wrote about - as I said in the post, of course the left will make demand after demand for condemnation and never be satisfied. But here we&#039;re actually talking about demands from the right, and so far they&#039;re not endless.  Nor is Tucker Carlson some fringe person hardly anyone has heard of, nor are the things he&#039;s been saying lately consistent with the Trump administration.  Carlson&#039;s been a huge figure on the right in the past, and has spoken at conventions and the like (for example, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rev.com/transcripts/tucker-carlson-speaks-at-rnc-2024-night-four#:~:text=Tucker%20Carlson%20spoke%20at%20the,Milwaukee.%20Read%20the%20transcript%20here.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here is his speech&lt;/a&gt; on the last night of the Republican Convention in 2024, and it&#039;s a very different Tucker speaking than the Tucker we see now).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy:</p>
<p>The strawman in that sentence I wrote about was this: &#8220;Let me add that it’s a strawman to pretend that the issue at hand is the demand that Vance or any other politician condemn people for disagreeing with Israeli policy or the current Israeli government.&#8221;  In other words, the strawman is that <i>that</i> is what people are asking Vance to do. But it&#8217;s not what people are asking him to do.</p>
<p>Plus, on the issue you wrote about &#8211; as I said in the post, of course the left will make demand after demand for condemnation and never be satisfied. But here we&#8217;re actually talking about demands from the right, and so far they&#8217;re not endless.  Nor is Tucker Carlson some fringe person hardly anyone has heard of, nor are the things he&#8217;s been saying lately consistent with the Trump administration.  Carlson&#8217;s been a huge figure on the right in the past, and has spoken at conventions and the like (for example, <a href="https://www.rev.com/transcripts/tucker-carlson-speaks-at-rnc-2024-night-four#:~:text=Tucker%20Carlson%20spoke%20at%20the,Milwaukee.%20Read%20the%20transcript%20here." rel="nofollow ugc">here is his speech</a> on the last night of the Republican Convention in 2024, and it&#8217;s a very different Tucker speaking than the Tucker we see now).</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 13:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan Quayle never recovered from the spelling issue.
Alinsky, it appears, suggests that ridiculing an enemy is self-accelerating.  IOW, you start it, it doesn&#039;t take further investment.
This didn&#039;t work with Trump because Trump is in a position to actually do things in the three-dimension world.
Carlso, et al. are not.

Taking them on as if they&#039;re a relevant enemy who has to be addressed/opposed with every move they make is doing them a favor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Quayle never recovered from the spelling issue.<br />
Alinsky, it appears, suggests that ridiculing an enemy is self-accelerating.  IOW, you start it, it doesn&#8217;t take further investment.<br />
This didn&#8217;t work with Trump because Trump is in a position to actually do things in the three-dimension world.<br />
Carlso, et al. are not.</p>
<p>Taking them on as if they&#8217;re a relevant enemy who has to be addressed/opposed with every move they make is doing them a favor.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 13:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let me add that it’s a strawman to pretend that the issue at hand is the demand that Vance or any other politician condemn people....&quot;

I&#039;m not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but I took Vance&#039;s as saying that he&#039;s not going to go down the slippery slope of acceding to every demand that he condemn every nut who supposedly represents &quot;the right.&quot; Democrats never seem to face the same demands. Is Gavin Newsome challenged to condemn Mamdani or Ilhan Omar, or any of the crazies on the left? It&#039;s a trap, and a game the media and Democrats play in an effort to tar Republicans with whackos like Fuentes and Carlson. It&#039;s akin to the &quot;Have you stopped beating your wife?&quot; sort of question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let me add that it’s a strawman to pretend that the issue at hand is the demand that Vance or any other politician condemn people&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but I took Vance&#8217;s as saying that he&#8217;s not going to go down the slippery slope of acceding to every demand that he condemn every nut who supposedly represents &#8220;the right.&#8221; Democrats never seem to face the same demands. Is Gavin Newsome challenged to condemn Mamdani or Ilhan Omar, or any of the crazies on the left? It&#8217;s a trap, and a game the media and Democrats play in an effort to tar Republicans with whackos like Fuentes and Carlson. It&#8217;s akin to the &#8220;Have you stopped beating your wife?&#8221; sort of question.</p>
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		By: Christopher B		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 12:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you are wrong in claiming the dynamic Nate Winchester identified works differently when the calls are coming from inside the party or political movement.  In regards to his specific example, I don&#039;t remember any of Trump&#039;s Republican opponents offering any defense of him from attacks based on the Charlottesville Hoax.  Every Never Trumper jumped on the bandwagon of Trump being &#039;racist&#039; and &#039;inciting violence&#039; regardless of what of he said.  And the salami-slicing works exactly the same way as denunciations of specific people, rather than ideas, are extended by claiming that since the denounced person also supported X then any person who supports X must be denounced as well.  You also see the &quot;this statement is just as bad as what the denounced person said therefore you must denounce that speaker as well&quot;.  There is no logical stopping point once you start, and I will emphasis this, *denouncing people by name* rather than providing evidence and countering the ideas they are spreading.

I think the Trump administration in both their rhetoric and actions are clearly supportive of Israel and are not influenced in any way by whatever Tucker, Candace, et al are spewing.  I also think JD was quite correct in saying he didn&#039;t bring a list of people to denounce, and I think Shapiro is wrong in making his opposition to anti-Semitism into a crusade against specific people.  Making the argument about what specific people say or do also enables the Left to hid their similar beliefs under the claim that they are not anti-Semitic but are anti-Zionist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are wrong in claiming the dynamic Nate Winchester identified works differently when the calls are coming from inside the party or political movement.  In regards to his specific example, I don&#8217;t remember any of Trump&#8217;s Republican opponents offering any defense of him from attacks based on the Charlottesville Hoax.  Every Never Trumper jumped on the bandwagon of Trump being &#8216;racist&#8217; and &#8216;inciting violence&#8217; regardless of what of he said.  And the salami-slicing works exactly the same way as denunciations of specific people, rather than ideas, are extended by claiming that since the denounced person also supported X then any person who supports X must be denounced as well.  You also see the &#8220;this statement is just as bad as what the denounced person said therefore you must denounce that speaker as well&#8221;.  There is no logical stopping point once you start, and I will emphasis this, *denouncing people by name* rather than providing evidence and countering the ideas they are spreading.</p>
<p>I think the Trump administration in both their rhetoric and actions are clearly supportive of Israel and are not influenced in any way by whatever Tucker, Candace, et al are spewing.  I also think JD was quite correct in saying he didn&#8217;t bring a list of people to denounce, and I think Shapiro is wrong in making his opposition to anti-Semitism into a crusade against specific people.  Making the argument about what specific people say or do also enables the Left to hid their similar beliefs under the claim that they are not anti-Semitic but are anti-Zionist.</p>
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		By: Marlene		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 05:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E.,  
 Wow ...!   Fuentes is a real turd!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E.,<br />
 Wow &#8230;!   Fuentes is a real turd!</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 04:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I expect most people have already heard about Vance&#039;s response last week during an interview with Unherd to Fuente&#039;s disgusting characterization of Vance&#039;s wife, Usha, in November. 

&lt;i&gt;“Let me be clear: anyone who attacks my wife, whether their name is Jen Psaki or Nick Fuentes, can eat shit. That’s my official policy as vice president of the United States.”&lt;/i&gt;

Vance may be incredibly smart, but there seems to still be a hillbilly deep inside.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Fuentes later doubled down sarcastically on his own platform, mocking the remark by pretending it was an invitation to a &quot;traditional Indian dinner&quot; with the Vance family, further escalating the feud with more racially charged commentary. - Grok&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fuentes response was cunning and demonstrates he should not be taken lightly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect most people have already heard about Vance&#8217;s response last week during an interview with Unherd to Fuente&#8217;s disgusting characterization of Vance&#8217;s wife, Usha, in November. </p>
<p><i>“Let me be clear: anyone who attacks my wife, whether their name is Jen Psaki or Nick Fuentes, can eat shit. That’s my official policy as vice president of the United States.”</i></p>
<p>Vance may be incredibly smart, but there seems to still be a hillbilly deep inside.</p>
<blockquote><p>Fuentes later doubled down sarcastically on his own platform, mocking the remark by pretending it was an invitation to a &#8220;traditional Indian dinner&#8221; with the Vance family, further escalating the feud with more racially charged commentary. &#8211; Grok</p></blockquote>
<p>Fuentes response was cunning and demonstrates he should not be taken lightly.</p>
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