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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/20/open-thread-12-20-2025/#comment-2834778</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 01:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everything you wanted to know about Watergate but may have been afraid—or not known enough—to ask…(including why Trump is, for his rabid-to-the-point-of-delirious opponents, RMN incarnate).

Another spectacularly murky  political saga comprehensively brought to life, from Nathan Pinkowski…with details about hypocrisy, dishonesty and moral bankruptcy sufficient to power a major city. 

“The Real Watergate Scandal;
“A myth and its legacy.”—
https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-real-watergate-scandal
H/T Powerline blog. 

Yep, the scandal and its modern-day reincarnation. ..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything you wanted to know about Watergate but may have been afraid—or not known enough—to ask…(including why Trump is, for his rabid-to-the-point-of-delirious opponents, RMN incarnate).</p>
<p>Another spectacularly murky  political saga comprehensively brought to life, from Nathan Pinkowski…with details about hypocrisy, dishonesty and moral bankruptcy sufficient to power a major city. </p>
<p>“The Real Watergate Scandal;<br />
“A myth and its legacy.”—<br />
<a href="https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-real-watergate-scandal" rel="nofollow ugc">https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-real-watergate-scandal</a><br />
H/T Powerline blog. </p>
<p>Yep, the scandal and its modern-day reincarnation. ..</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 00:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas:

Yes, it&#039;s depressing to see sometimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas:</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s depressing to see sometimes.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@neo:&lt;i&gt;I was writing much the same as Taibbi about the Epstein case quite some time ago:&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed you were well ahead of Taibbi on this, as was I as you could see by my comments on those posts, for what that&#039;s worth.

Just like how the rest of the world is just now discovering Somali fraud in Minnesota despite all of Powerline&#039;s work since 2021, I suppose.

Anyway, with respect to Epstein, you saw it then and now Taibbi sees it, but the crew at Instapundit had the same information we all had and chose to chase clicks instead....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neo:<i>I was writing much the same as Taibbi about the Epstein case quite some time ago:</i></p>
<p>Indeed you were well ahead of Taibbi on this, as was I as you could see by my comments on those posts, for what that&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>Just like how the rest of the world is just now discovering Somali fraud in Minnesota despite all of Powerline&#8217;s work since 2021, I suppose.</p>
<p>Anyway, with respect to Epstein, you saw it then and now Taibbi sees it, but the crew at Instapundit had the same information we all had and chose to chase clicks instead&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And here we thought that that classic Chutzpah joke was just…a joke…

“Trans Muslim killer tries to skip sentencing for executing parents — then makes excuse for murdering them”—
https://nypost.com/2025/12/21/us-news/trans-muslim-woman-mia-bailey-sentenced-to-life-for-killing-her-parents-in-utah/

Other recent “jokes” of note:
“Why would Australia give a non-citizen on a Visa, SIX gun licenses? 
“And why would he be given six licenses when his son has known links to ISIS?”—
https://instapundit.com/763961/

‘BBC Can’t Admit the Obvious. “The Australian Broadcasting Corporation insists that the Bondi Beach terrorist attack had nothing to do with religion”’—
https://instapundit.com/763884/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here we thought that that classic Chutzpah joke was just…a joke…</p>
<p>“Trans Muslim killer tries to skip sentencing for executing parents — then makes excuse for murdering them”—<br />
<a href="https://nypost.com/2025/12/21/us-news/trans-muslim-woman-mia-bailey-sentenced-to-life-for-killing-her-parents-in-utah/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2025/12/21/us-news/trans-muslim-woman-mia-bailey-sentenced-to-life-for-killing-her-parents-in-utah/</a></p>
<p>Other recent “jokes” of note:<br />
“Why would Australia give a non-citizen on a Visa, SIX gun licenses?<br />
“And why would he be given six licenses when his son has known links to ISIS?”—<br />
<a href="https://instapundit.com/763961/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/763961/</a></p>
<p>‘BBC Can’t Admit the Obvious. “The Australian Broadcasting Corporation insists that the Bondi Beach terrorist attack had nothing to do with religion”’—<br />
<a href="https://instapundit.com/763884/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/763884/</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/20/open-thread-12-20-2025/#comment-2834769</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas:

I was writing much the same as Taibbi about the Epstein case quite some time ago: see &lt;a href=&quot;https://thenewneo.com/2025/02/27/the-epstein-files/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; as well as &lt;a href=&quot;https://thenewneo.com/2025/07/12/the-epstein-brouhaha/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas:</p>
<p>I was writing much the same as Taibbi about the Epstein case quite some time ago: see <a href="https://thenewneo.com/2025/02/27/the-epstein-files/" rel="ugc">this</a> as well as <a href="https://thenewneo.com/2025/07/12/the-epstein-brouhaha/" rel="ugc">this</a>.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/20/open-thread-12-20-2025/#comment-2834766</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a prize given in our development for the best Halloween and Christmas decorations and lights and, each year, one house down the block goes all out, and it almost seems as if their light display--which seemingly grows in coverage and intensity each year--might be able to be seen from outer space. 

Just saw an image on Youtube--apparently now taken down--of one such house, bright Christmas lights covering their entire lawn, and their next door neighbor&#039;s Christmas light display consisted of one word in large white illuminated lights on his lawn--DITTO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a prize given in our development for the best Halloween and Christmas decorations and lights and, each year, one house down the block goes all out, and it almost seems as if their light display&#8211;which seemingly grows in coverage and intensity each year&#8211;might be able to be seen from outer space. </p>
<p>Just saw an image on Youtube&#8211;apparently now taken down&#8211;of one such house, bright Christmas lights covering their entire lawn, and their next door neighbor&#8217;s Christmas light display consisted of one word in large white illuminated lights on his lawn&#8211;DITTO.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/20/open-thread-12-20-2025/#comment-2834765</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 20:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting Epstein volte-face on Instapundit:

&lt;blockquote&gt;TO BE FAIR, THEY REPORTED IT EXACTLY AS THEY MEANT TO: Matt Taibbi: The Jeffrey Epstein Saga is the Worst-Reported Story of All Time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Instapundit commenters, &lt;a href=&quot;https://instapundit.com/438312/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;including Reynolds himself&lt;/a&gt;, spent years fanning the Epstein pedophile-blackmail conspiracy flames, and there&#039;s nothing Taibbi is saying that hasn&#039;t already known for a very long time now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Epstein volte-face on Instapundit:</p>
<blockquote><p>TO BE FAIR, THEY REPORTED IT EXACTLY AS THEY MEANT TO: Matt Taibbi: The Jeffrey Epstein Saga is the Worst-Reported Story of All Time.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Instapundit commenters, <a href="https://instapundit.com/438312/" rel="nofollow ugc">including Reynolds himself</a>, spent years fanning the Epstein pedophile-blackmail conspiracy flames, and there&#8217;s nothing Taibbi is saying that hasn&#8217;t already known for a very long time now.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/20/open-thread-12-20-2025/#comment-2834747</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 17:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well stated:
==
https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2025/12/did-gary-neville-have-point.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated:<br />
==<br />
<a href="https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2025/12/did-gary-neville-have-point.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2025/12/did-gary-neville-have-point.html</a></p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 15:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unicorns have the best intentions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unicorns have the best intentions.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 15:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ross Coulthart is saying that he hopes the upcoming summer 2026 blockbuster Spielberg SF film isn&#039;t going to push the Alien “threat” narrative. 

Let&#039;s think about this for a moment, because--from a human perspective—couldn&#039;t any entity which can--or is--interfering with our human “agency”--our abilities, our actions, plans, and the normal direction of our human progress--naturally be seen as a “threat” to us as humans, as a species? 

Such Aliens in essence “taking over,” and nudging, pushing, or even forcing us humans in a particular direction, down a particular path, one dictated by these Aliens, and what they want--what they might think is &quot;best&quot; for us humans, as these Aliens might define &quot;best&quot;--and closing out other paths we humans might prefer to take.

Suppose we humans don&#039;t want to be changed/uplifted/enlightened/directed in the manner Aliens might want us to be? 

What if, to us humans, the path chosen by these Aliens for us looks more like slavery than benign mentorship? 

Sure looks like such a situation could be seen as a &quot;threat&quot; to us humans.

What then?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross Coulthart is saying that he hopes the upcoming summer 2026 blockbuster Spielberg SF film isn&#8217;t going to push the Alien “threat” narrative. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s think about this for a moment, because&#8211;from a human perspective—couldn&#8217;t any entity which can&#8211;or is&#8211;interfering with our human “agency”&#8211;our abilities, our actions, plans, and the normal direction of our human progress&#8211;naturally be seen as a “threat” to us as humans, as a species? </p>
<p>Such Aliens in essence “taking over,” and nudging, pushing, or even forcing us humans in a particular direction, down a particular path, one dictated by these Aliens, and what they want&#8211;what they might think is &#8220;best&#8221; for us humans, as these Aliens might define &#8220;best&#8221;&#8211;and closing out other paths we humans might prefer to take.</p>
<p>Suppose we humans don&#8217;t want to be changed/uplifted/enlightened/directed in the manner Aliens might want us to be? </p>
<p>What if, to us humans, the path chosen by these Aliens for us looks more like slavery than benign mentorship? </p>
<p>Sure looks like such a situation could be seen as a &#8220;threat&#8221; to us humans.</p>
<p>What then?</p>
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