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	Comments on: The Brown killer and the Brookline killer were the same Portuguese ex-student in physics, Claudio Manuel Neves Valente	</title>
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		By: Kevin Morrison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Morrison]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a carefully-considered pejorative, I think you nailed it with&#039;nincompoop&#039;.  There seem to be many with this qualification in the academic world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a carefully-considered pejorative, I think you nailed it with&#8217;nincompoop&#8217;.  There seem to be many with this qualification in the academic world.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Given the relative closeness of the two murder sites, one might ask why bother?  Had he killed the professor and then headed for the hills, his potential for getting away with it would seem much greater.
But he chose to start something for  no reason...?  That would have people looking for...somebody...?  That would have a non-zero chance of identifying him eventually...?  That might even get him stopped before killing the professor...?

Extremely poor planning, if the basic plan was to kill the prof.  Why bother with the Brown thing?  There was little possibility of the Brown murders requiring flooding the zone with law enforcement thus leaving Brookline untended.  No advantage there.

So either extremely irrational or two solid goals.

Looking for the rational in the irrational is a losing proposition.  But looking for what might have caused the irrational plan is...interesting.  Given his background educationally and personally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the relative closeness of the two murder sites, one might ask why bother?  Had he killed the professor and then headed for the hills, his potential for getting away with it would seem much greater.<br />
But he chose to start something for  no reason&#8230;?  That would have people looking for&#8230;somebody&#8230;?  That would have a non-zero chance of identifying him eventually&#8230;?  That might even get him stopped before killing the professor&#8230;?</p>
<p>Extremely poor planning, if the basic plan was to kill the prof.  Why bother with the Brown thing?  There was little possibility of the Brown murders requiring flooding the zone with law enforcement thus leaving Brookline untended.  No advantage there.</p>
<p>So either extremely irrational or two solid goals.</p>
<p>Looking for the rational in the irrational is a losing proposition.  But looking for what might have caused the irrational plan is&#8230;interesting.  Given his background educationally and personally.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that would be one way for the story to make sense, if he lived on miami beach for instance, he might have blended in, more because of the sizable brazilian population, (then again this was back when I was in real estate, some time ago,)
but it seems the level of curiosity about this matter seems limited about the questions I referenced, particular, not to mention extraneous concerns like the diversity visa program, that doesn&#039;t have a good track record, the egyptian in 2002, the kazakh in 2017 and now this instance,
it is said fiction is supposed to make sense, internally but reality not so much, the currents of islamism and deconstructive nihilism that brown seems to be saturated in, led to this circumstance,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be one way for the story to make sense, if he lived on miami beach for instance, he might have blended in, more because of the sizable brazilian population, (then again this was back when I was in real estate, some time ago,)<br />
but it seems the level of curiosity about this matter seems limited about the questions I referenced, particular, not to mention extraneous concerns like the diversity visa program, that doesn&#8217;t have a good track record, the egyptian in 2002, the kazakh in 2017 and now this instance,<br />
it is said fiction is supposed to make sense, internally but reality not so much, the currents of islamism and deconstructive nihilism that brown seems to be saturated in, led to this circumstance,</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to know more about the shooter&#039;s history from leaving Brown in 2001 to his return last week as a killer; and more about what he&#039;d been doing recently and with whom he was conversing and what he was looking at online.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know more about the shooter&#8217;s history from leaving Brown in 2001 to his return last week as a killer; and more about what he&#8217;d been doing recently and with whom he was conversing and what he was looking at online.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 19:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the story raises more questions then answers, if the shooter had indeed cased the building, he would have quickly known, his life long nemesis wasn&#039;t there (i&#039;m being overdramatic)  the physics building has taken on other tenants, like economics professors, why did he target ella and the uzbek student, why did he first not travel to brookline, if this was his target, where is the motive,


where did he get the money, for the expensive house he was living in miami (again that info is curious, some suggest he was living in downscale miami gardens, not beach front 

property) now there wasn&#039;t a particular reason for authorities to be looking for him, before this,

now if he was a catspaw for other interests, like those mentioned in other threads, 

i&#039;m reminded the portuguese writer dos santos, has a physicist protagonist with the same name as the atty general, noronha, who did not perform his duties very well,

one of these works, divine fury, was about islamism in his native, portugal and egypt where the antagonist comes from, a more honest account of the subject than most, although dos santos is clearly agnostic on all faiths,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the story raises more questions then answers, if the shooter had indeed cased the building, he would have quickly known, his life long nemesis wasn&#8217;t there (i&#8217;m being overdramatic)  the physics building has taken on other tenants, like economics professors, why did he target ella and the uzbek student, why did he first not travel to brookline, if this was his target, where is the motive,</p>
<p>where did he get the money, for the expensive house he was living in miami (again that info is curious, some suggest he was living in downscale miami gardens, not beach front </p>
<p>property) now there wasn&#8217;t a particular reason for authorities to be looking for him, before this,</p>
<p>now if he was a catspaw for other interests, like those mentioned in other threads, </p>
<p>i&#8217;m reminded the portuguese writer dos santos, has a physicist protagonist with the same name as the atty general, noronha, who did not perform his duties very well,</p>
<p>one of these works, divine fury, was about islamism in his native, portugal and egypt where the antagonist comes from, a more honest account of the subject than most, although dos santos is clearly agnostic on all faiths,</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 18:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Business schools especially liked physics BS grads as they knew they could do advanced mathematical modeling that was beyond most typical MBA applicants.&lt;/i&gt;
As an engineering major, I took a  course that one week had us playing a land use game w business majors. By the end of the hour, the business majors thought I was an accounting major, due to my number skills. 

The physics-engineering continuity reminds me of a family friend. He was a physics major with a lot of hands-on experience. He had a side job repairing TVs---and built a TV for us out of spare parts. He was also a ham radio operator. I suspect he built his ham radio. He was hired as an engineer, got a MSEE, and ended up in educational administration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Business schools especially liked physics BS grads as they knew they could do advanced mathematical modeling that was beyond most typical MBA applicants.</i><br />
As an engineering major, I took a  course that one week had us playing a land use game w business majors. By the end of the hour, the business majors thought I was an accounting major, due to my number skills. </p>
<p>The physics-engineering continuity reminds me of a family friend. He was a physics major with a lot of hands-on experience. He had a side job repairing TVs&#8212;and built a TV for us out of spare parts. He was also a ham radio operator. I suspect he built his ham radio. He was hired as an engineer, got a MSEE, and ended up in educational administration.</p>
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		By: Sennacherib		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sennacherib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 17:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The rhode island officials did a bang up job on this one!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rhode island officials did a bang up job on this one!</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*My engineering undergraduate advisor in the 60’s suggested that while engineers might graduate with a BS and be more employable than a physics major with only a BS, that actually the people that could handle the physics program were more likely to be able to develop or derive their technical understanding from “first principles” and thus were more intelligent in that aspect of things than the engineers. The latter would typically learn the derivations but not be able to recreate them from scratch.&quot;

From my perspective teaching physics undergrads for over 40 years:  an undergrad degree in physics is not particularly useful.  One may get into STEM equipment sales or some partially related field.  It is useful for advanced training.  A vast majority of my students went on to post grad work in other areas; about 10% went to physics/astro grad studies.  The rest went mainly into engineering and MBA programs, a few into medicine.  I know from direct conversations with admission people in those areas that they highly valued physics majors over their own typical applicants.  Med schools would fast track any physics applicant,and same for engineering schools.  Business schools especially liked physics BS grads as they knew they could do advanced mathematical modeling that was beyond most typical MBA applicants.  And if they had worked in my lab and actually published research, it was icing on the cake.  Not that they would ever do such research in their grad studies (high energy ion-molecule collisions), but it showed that they could take a problem and run with it independently and produce results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*My engineering undergraduate advisor in the 60’s suggested that while engineers might graduate with a BS and be more employable than a physics major with only a BS, that actually the people that could handle the physics program were more likely to be able to develop or derive their technical understanding from “first principles” and thus were more intelligent in that aspect of things than the engineers. The latter would typically learn the derivations but not be able to recreate them from scratch.&#8221;</p>
<p>From my perspective teaching physics undergrads for over 40 years:  an undergrad degree in physics is not particularly useful.  One may get into STEM equipment sales or some partially related field.  It is useful for advanced training.  A vast majority of my students went on to post grad work in other areas; about 10% went to physics/astro grad studies.  The rest went mainly into engineering and MBA programs, a few into medicine.  I know from direct conversations with admission people in those areas that they highly valued physics majors over their own typical applicants.  Med schools would fast track any physics applicant,and same for engineering schools.  Business schools especially liked physics BS grads as they knew they could do advanced mathematical modeling that was beyond most typical MBA applicants.  And if they had worked in my lab and actually published research, it was icing on the cake.  Not that they would ever do such research in their grad studies (high energy ion-molecule collisions), but it showed that they could take a problem and run with it independently and produce results.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On physics vs. engineering degrees: My husband&#039;s BA is in physics. He found he was extremely well-prepared for his MSEE program, much more so than fellow students with engineering undergrads.

It may be that the shooter could have found a good job, but I&#039;m guessing that what bothered him was his failure to excel at theoretical physics, hence a hatred for his long-ago fellow student who did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On physics vs. engineering degrees: My husband&#8217;s BA is in physics. He found he was extremely well-prepared for his MSEE program, much more so than fellow students with engineering undergrads.</p>
<p>It may be that the shooter could have found a good job, but I&#8217;m guessing that what bothered him was his failure to excel at theoretical physics, hence a hatred for his long-ago fellow student who did.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 13:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I cannot imagine what his motive might have been for shooting up an economics review session.  
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