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		By: TJ		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[MORE of Venezuela’s international evils exposed in this recent (7 Nov) interview with a major player identified by Emerald Robinson, Patrick Byrne. 

He’s quite humble. But ER says the decamillionaire (net $800m) has spent $80 million of his own wealth to keep American elections free and fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9hwqpO98s&#038;t=3550s

From 37m or so to 57m, Patrick Byrne talks about his recent several years in or around Venezuela. He and his admired hero Gary Berntsen and “Zoro” (a Venezuelan worked to hack Venezuelan government  computers.

Also, to cultivate well-connected Venezuelan’s to defect, especially if they have government secrets.

At 43m, he fills out that he was almost kidnapped in Ghana. He says, the US Embassy informed him that because Maduro believes Byrne stole the last Venezuelan election, he has authorized $25 million bounty on his head.

The Venezuelan mafia have 15 ways of cheating an election outcome. They employ a smorgasbord of techniques to do so.

If they want to flip the outcome of an election in a US country, they also work to gain an insider on that county’s election officials — a year in advance.

 There are many Venezuelans in big US cities like Dallas, LA, or Milwaukee. And they can be bought or threatened into cooperating with them.

Over in Serbia is their 15th technique. There are Serbian and Chinese intel agents working in this data center in Serbia.

Patrick relates the (safe house in Gstaad)  Switzerland at 52-4m, where Lt. General Mike Flynn asks these Venezuelan software engineers about “How long has this been going on?” Digitally flipping election outcomes?

Just as Emerald Robinson says (ABOVE), “At least 20 years.”  In 72 nations. This is the work of both China and the Globalist elites driving nations, “to win without fighting” as “The Art of War” advises, adds Byrne. Lt. Gen. Flynn, steeped in communications and intelligence (two masters degrees), was at first heartbroken — “they’ve [the Chinese] been coming at us all this time and we [US intel, Army intel] missed this,” as Byrne puts it. (before 55m)

What to do? How much do we know or not know about compromised digital elections? Byrne builds up to a Trump Presidential order to make digital election machines illegal; he could appoint him as head of CISA and he would carry it out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MORE of Venezuela’s international evils exposed in this recent (7 Nov) interview with a major player identified by Emerald Robinson, Patrick Byrne. </p>
<p>He’s quite humble. But ER says the decamillionaire (net $800m) has spent $80 million of his own wealth to keep American elections free and fair.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9hwqpO98s&#038;t=3550s" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9hwqpO98s&#038;t=3550s</a></p>
<p>From 37m or so to 57m, Patrick Byrne talks about his recent several years in or around Venezuela. He and his admired hero Gary Berntsen and “Zoro” (a Venezuelan worked to hack Venezuelan government  computers.</p>
<p>Also, to cultivate well-connected Venezuelan’s to defect, especially if they have government secrets.</p>
<p>At 43m, he fills out that he was almost kidnapped in Ghana. He says, the US Embassy informed him that because Maduro believes Byrne stole the last Venezuelan election, he has authorized $25 million bounty on his head.</p>
<p>The Venezuelan mafia have 15 ways of cheating an election outcome. They employ a smorgasbord of techniques to do so.</p>
<p>If they want to flip the outcome of an election in a US country, they also work to gain an insider on that county’s election officials — a year in advance.</p>
<p> There are many Venezuelans in big US cities like Dallas, LA, or Milwaukee. And they can be bought or threatened into cooperating with them.</p>
<p>Over in Serbia is their 15th technique. There are Serbian and Chinese intel agents working in this data center in Serbia.</p>
<p>Patrick relates the (safe house in Gstaad)  Switzerland at 52-4m, where Lt. General Mike Flynn asks these Venezuelan software engineers about “How long has this been going on?” Digitally flipping election outcomes?</p>
<p>Just as Emerald Robinson says (ABOVE), “At least 20 years.”  In 72 nations. This is the work of both China and the Globalist elites driving nations, “to win without fighting” as “The Art of War” advises, adds Byrne. Lt. Gen. Flynn, steeped in communications and intelligence (two masters degrees), was at first heartbroken — “they’ve [the Chinese] been coming at us all this time and we [US intel, Army intel] missed this,” as Byrne puts it. (before 55m)</p>
<p>What to do? How much do we know or not know about compromised digital elections? Byrne builds up to a Trump Presidential order to make digital election machines illegal; he could appoint him as head of CISA and he would carry it out.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/13/open-thread-12-13-2025/#comment-2834058</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EXPLOSIVE NEWS from reporter Emerald Robinson on the stolen election(s) — or almost, in the case of 2024. 

“HOW THE 2024 ELECTION WAS SAVED”
via “The Absolute Truth” show on LindellTV, and Emerald’s interview with Alex Jones on pre T-Day “Info Wars” episode this past November.

https://x.com/RealLindellTV/status/1999524669611999251

Go and listen from the start through 26m. 

Emerald Robinson (ER) gives us succinct summaries of these events
 at the beginning, 2-4m, and towards the end, at 23-6m.

A set of data experts met in Gstaad, Switzerland.
Lt. Gen Mike Flynn asks them, “Well, how long has this
[digital vote counting manipulation] been going on?”
ANSWER: for 20 years, in 72 countries.

And as ER explains, this is why it’s been a secret for 
so long — the Truth is so explosive.

Alex Jones chimes in, saying, and that’s why the Deep State 
Guardians are desperate and thus the recent “Seditious 6”
Democrat Senators and Congress-people came out, there’s 
more blowback coming from the Deep State, and Democrats
are prepping to impeach Trump again, the next time they’re 
in power, and charge the President with Treason!

It’s the beginning of October.

A foreign man (perhaps the anonymous Venezuelan
software engineer? Or not) makes his way through channels to 
get into Mara Largo, and he makes a PowerPoint presentation to
Suzi Wiles.

Suzi Wiles calls on the one man she trusts most to evaluate this question,
and asks him to present this to Elon Musk.

Musk says he’s too busy for a PP and asks for his data file instead. 
Musk uploads it to an AI platform to read it, and he looks 
at the one page summary product.

Then Musk reports back to Suzi, “We have a problem. It’s true.”

Later, on October 17, Musk speaks at a Pennsylvania Trump rally.
and his tone shifts — he straight up tells the crowd that we have 
insecure elections. “Dominion voting machines.”

ER says this reflects events in earlier weeks. Our elections are 
being rigged, she infers.

The next problem is how to prevent this from happening again,
with only two weeks to go?

The group composed of this unnamed foreign man, a Venezuelan 
software engineer, Gary Berntsen (ex-CIA), and Patrick Byrne
are at a safe house in Gstaad, Switzerland.

VIPs fly in to meet with these experts, and Lt. Gen Mike Flynn 
among them asks, “Well, how long has this [ digital vote counting 
manipulation] been going on?” ANSWER: for at least 20 years, 
in 72 countries.

And as ER explains this to Alex Jones, he says this is 
why it’s been a secret for so long — the Truth is 
so explosive.

In fact, in fear for their lives, Gary Berntsen and others were
in Switzerland because they were unsure of the outcome 
of the 2024 election.

ER says she was told that she was on a Federal list of
700 subjected to arrest after the DementiaDent’s
Doppelgänger is elected.

Alex says he’s talked to people at the DOJ and the list 
was over 10,000 and so he’s sure she was on it.

Robinson from X.com: “10. On election Day, nobody was 
sure if the cybersecurity  team was going to be successful 
in knocking out the Serbian  [Chinese made] computers.

“Everybody at Mar-a-Largo had to wait for results with
uncertainty.

“That day, the man who had briefed Musk [and Suzi Wiles] had
fled to Oslo, Norway.

Others “would flee the USA if they failed.”

So, what was the plan? A Japanese source had captured the 
IP data of the 2020 elections, news of which he’d shared on
Twitter.

Thus, the Three Musketeers (Berntsen, Byrne, and the Venezuelan)
simply direct messaged this source and asked if they could have his
election day 2020  data?

He said sure, but only for a free cup of coffee (really, $15 in bitcoin).

The experts didn’t know if it was going to work or not.

Weeks later, ER learned that they had indeed “taken out that
Serbian office.” They “stopped their computers from working” 
on election day.

But the Deep State switches resources around the world.
What did the Team miss blocking?

Like me, ER observes that there were Rs in safe Congressmen 
districts in California who were leading on election night,
yet lost (again) over the weeks to come. Just like 2020.
(Even then in November 3024, these results were depressing 
for me.)

Similarly, I saw Washington State have late results swing, and key 
Senate races the Rs almost won in Wisconsin and Michigan 
that were hung, swinging for the corrupt-Democratic 
candidate later.

Alex Jones jumps in (at 23m) adding that in recent weeks
(earlier the last November), that the WH now has proof 
of microchips made in China, with the capacity to flip
votes — with all this soon to come out, this has got D’s
scared and in panic mode.

ER adds details from legal discovery in ongoing lawsuits,
beyond merely confirming Alex claims.

Alex asks Emerald to summarize these events 25-7m.
POSTSCRIPT. ER on X.com: “18. It’s February…

And time is up” for the Venezuelans who would be killed
if sent back under Maduro’s rule.

But Patrick Byrne in Florida with a catamaran sailboat 
sends it out in a terrible storm, taking them to safety 
in the Bahamas.

The suite of US intel and State Department agencies
are all culpable. They knew it, they feared these secrets 
coming out. 

Now, will we have consequences? Not just “accountability?”

At 26m, ER ties this into the ongoing US Navy and Air Force 
blockade— it isn’t merely about fentanyl or the Chinese 
geo-politics rivalry, it’s also about this.

[Alex gets back to ER just before 34m who continues the story.]

Finally, those text-minded can plumb her X.com posting which has many posts, still ongoing since Friday, at least! (It’s on my list…after finishing the
rest of  the Alex Jones 56m video.)

Phewwww!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXPLOSIVE NEWS from reporter Emerald Robinson on the stolen election(s) — or almost, in the case of 2024. </p>
<p>“HOW THE 2024 ELECTION WAS SAVED”<br />
via “The Absolute Truth” show on LindellTV, and Emerald’s interview with Alex Jones on pre T-Day “Info Wars” episode this past November.</p>
<p><a href="https://x.com/RealLindellTV/status/1999524669611999251" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/RealLindellTV/status/1999524669611999251</a></p>
<p>Go and listen from the start through 26m. </p>
<p>Emerald Robinson (ER) gives us succinct summaries of these events<br />
 at the beginning, 2-4m, and towards the end, at 23-6m.</p>
<p>A set of data experts met in Gstaad, Switzerland.<br />
Lt. Gen Mike Flynn asks them, “Well, how long has this<br />
[digital vote counting manipulation] been going on?”<br />
ANSWER: for 20 years, in 72 countries.</p>
<p>And as ER explains, this is why it’s been a secret for<br />
so long — the Truth is so explosive.</p>
<p>Alex Jones chimes in, saying, and that’s why the Deep State<br />
Guardians are desperate and thus the recent “Seditious 6”<br />
Democrat Senators and Congress-people came out, there’s<br />
more blowback coming from the Deep State, and Democrats<br />
are prepping to impeach Trump again, the next time they’re<br />
in power, and charge the President with Treason!</p>
<p>It’s the beginning of October.</p>
<p>A foreign man (perhaps the anonymous Venezuelan<br />
software engineer? Or not) makes his way through channels to<br />
get into Mara Largo, and he makes a PowerPoint presentation to<br />
Suzi Wiles.</p>
<p>Suzi Wiles calls on the one man she trusts most to evaluate this question,<br />
and asks him to present this to Elon Musk.</p>
<p>Musk says he’s too busy for a PP and asks for his data file instead.<br />
Musk uploads it to an AI platform to read it, and he looks<br />
at the one page summary product.</p>
<p>Then Musk reports back to Suzi, “We have a problem. It’s true.”</p>
<p>Later, on October 17, Musk speaks at a Pennsylvania Trump rally.<br />
and his tone shifts — he straight up tells the crowd that we have<br />
insecure elections. “Dominion voting machines.”</p>
<p>ER says this reflects events in earlier weeks. Our elections are<br />
being rigged, she infers.</p>
<p>The next problem is how to prevent this from happening again,<br />
with only two weeks to go?</p>
<p>The group composed of this unnamed foreign man, a Venezuelan<br />
software engineer, Gary Berntsen (ex-CIA), and Patrick Byrne<br />
are at a safe house in Gstaad, Switzerland.</p>
<p>VIPs fly in to meet with these experts, and Lt. Gen Mike Flynn<br />
among them asks, “Well, how long has this [ digital vote counting<br />
manipulation] been going on?” ANSWER: for at least 20 years,<br />
in 72 countries.</p>
<p>And as ER explains this to Alex Jones, he says this is<br />
why it’s been a secret for so long — the Truth is<br />
so explosive.</p>
<p>In fact, in fear for their lives, Gary Berntsen and others were<br />
in Switzerland because they were unsure of the outcome<br />
of the 2024 election.</p>
<p>ER says she was told that she was on a Federal list of<br />
700 subjected to arrest after the DementiaDent’s<br />
Doppelgänger is elected.</p>
<p>Alex says he’s talked to people at the DOJ and the list<br />
was over 10,000 and so he’s sure she was on it.</p>
<p>Robinson from X.com: “10. On election Day, nobody was<br />
sure if the cybersecurity  team was going to be successful<br />
in knocking out the Serbian  [Chinese made] computers.</p>
<p>“Everybody at Mar-a-Largo had to wait for results with<br />
uncertainty.</p>
<p>“That day, the man who had briefed Musk [and Suzi Wiles] had<br />
fled to Oslo, Norway.</p>
<p>Others “would flee the USA if they failed.”</p>
<p>So, what was the plan? A Japanese source had captured the<br />
IP data of the 2020 elections, news of which he’d shared on<br />
Twitter.</p>
<p>Thus, the Three Musketeers (Berntsen, Byrne, and the Venezuelan)<br />
simply direct messaged this source and asked if they could have his<br />
election day 2020  data?</p>
<p>He said sure, but only for a free cup of coffee (really, $15 in bitcoin).</p>
<p>The experts didn’t know if it was going to work or not.</p>
<p>Weeks later, ER learned that they had indeed “taken out that<br />
Serbian office.” They “stopped their computers from working”<br />
on election day.</p>
<p>But the Deep State switches resources around the world.<br />
What did the Team miss blocking?</p>
<p>Like me, ER observes that there were Rs in safe Congressmen<br />
districts in California who were leading on election night,<br />
yet lost (again) over the weeks to come. Just like 2020.<br />
(Even then in November 3024, these results were depressing<br />
for me.)</p>
<p>Similarly, I saw Washington State have late results swing, and key<br />
Senate races the Rs almost won in Wisconsin and Michigan<br />
that were hung, swinging for the corrupt-Democratic<br />
candidate later.</p>
<p>Alex Jones jumps in (at 23m) adding that in recent weeks<br />
(earlier the last November), that the WH now has proof<br />
of microchips made in China, with the capacity to flip<br />
votes — with all this soon to come out, this has got D’s<br />
scared and in panic mode.</p>
<p>ER adds details from legal discovery in ongoing lawsuits,<br />
beyond merely confirming Alex claims.</p>
<p>Alex asks Emerald to summarize these events 25-7m.<br />
POSTSCRIPT. ER on X.com: “18. It’s February…</p>
<p>And time is up” for the Venezuelans who would be killed<br />
if sent back under Maduro’s rule.</p>
<p>But Patrick Byrne in Florida with a catamaran sailboat<br />
sends it out in a terrible storm, taking them to safety<br />
in the Bahamas.</p>
<p>The suite of US intel and State Department agencies<br />
are all culpable. They knew it, they feared these secrets<br />
coming out. </p>
<p>Now, will we have consequences? Not just “accountability?”</p>
<p>At 26m, ER ties this into the ongoing US Navy and Air Force<br />
blockade— it isn’t merely about fentanyl or the Chinese<br />
geo-politics rivalry, it’s also about this.</p>
<p>[Alex gets back to ER just before 34m who continues the story.]</p>
<p>Finally, those text-minded can plumb her X.com posting which has many posts, still ongoing since Friday, at least! (It’s on my list…after finishing the<br />
rest of  the Alex Jones 56m video.)</p>
<p>Phewwww!</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 01:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ:

Agreed. I&#039;m no longer a true-blue conspiracy buff, but my spidey-sense still tingles and says there is something fishy about the Brian Cole Jr. and Thomas Crooks stories.

The main objective of the CIA&#039;s infamous MKULTRA program was to brainwash people into robotic agents.

Almost all records of MKULTRA were destroyed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ:</p>
<p>Agreed. I&#8217;m no longer a true-blue conspiracy buff, but my spidey-sense still tingles and says there is something fishy about the Brian Cole Jr. and Thomas Crooks stories.</p>
<p>The main objective of the CIA&#8217;s infamous MKULTRA program was to brainwash people into robotic agents.</p>
<p>Almost all records of MKULTRA were destroyed.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/13/open-thread-12-13-2025/#comment-2833985</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 00:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MY FEARS CONFIRMED by Rep. Thomas Massey, citing FBI Whistleblower?

“An FBI whistleblower has come forward with perspectives that raise concerns that the bureau has charged an innocent person with planting bombs at Democratic and Republican headquarters on Jan 5, 2021, according to Kentucky Republican Rep. Thomas Massie. 

&quot;’The FBI employee disclosing this information to me doesn’t believe the FBI has arrested a person who is capable or motivated, or even interested enough in affairs outside of his own small world, to execute the J6 pipe bomb plot on his own,’wrote Massie in a Friday afternoon thread on X, noting that this was Massie&#039;s ‘personal conclusion’ about the whistleblower.”

He is mentally disabled enough that he’s easily suggestible and unable to muster the required will to carry out these actions, he says.

Only the materials purchased in timely enough fashion really cement any culpability by Cole.

DETAILS at ZeroHedge https://www.zerohedge.com/political/obvious-mental-disability-fbi-insider-raises-doubts-about-man-charged-j6-pipe-bomber

And there are less than three weeks to prosecute the real culprits, if this is true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MY FEARS CONFIRMED by Rep. Thomas Massey, citing FBI Whistleblower?</p>
<p>“An FBI whistleblower has come forward with perspectives that raise concerns that the bureau has charged an innocent person with planting bombs at Democratic and Republican headquarters on Jan 5, 2021, according to Kentucky Republican Rep. Thomas Massie. </p>
<p>&#8220;’The FBI employee disclosing this information to me doesn’t believe the FBI has arrested a person who is capable or motivated, or even interested enough in affairs outside of his own small world, to execute the J6 pipe bomb plot on his own,’wrote Massie in a Friday afternoon thread on X, noting that this was Massie&#8217;s ‘personal conclusion’ about the whistleblower.”</p>
<p>He is mentally disabled enough that he’s easily suggestible and unable to muster the required will to carry out these actions, he says.</p>
<p>Only the materials purchased in timely enough fashion really cement any culpability by Cole.</p>
<p>DETAILS at ZeroHedge <a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/obvious-mental-disability-fbi-insider-raises-doubts-about-man-charged-j6-pipe-bomber" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/obvious-mental-disability-fbi-insider-raises-doubts-about-man-charged-j6-pipe-bomber</a></p>
<p>And there are less than three weeks to prosecute the real culprits, if this is true.</p>
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		By: IrishOtter49		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/13/open-thread-12-13-2025/#comment-2833958</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IrishOtter49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2025 22:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/13/open-thread-12-13-2025/#comment-2833901</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2025 16:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pretty good Jordan.]]></description>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/13/open-thread-12-13-2025/#comment-2833896</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2025 15:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two things:
1.Toeing the starting line of College Station marathon tomorrow. 
2.Neo, just noticed your profile pic. I’m not the most observant. Is it a recent addition?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things:<br />
1.Toeing the starting line of College Station marathon tomorrow.<br />
2.Neo, just noticed your profile pic. I’m not the most observant. Is it a recent addition?</p>
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