Comments on: Open thread 12/11/2025

By: Jimmy McNulty

Jimmy McNulty — Sat, 13 Dec 2025 13:29:09 +0000

Huxley, my brother from another mother!
I was in my 50’s before I found out that she was a white rose.
Sounded very Motown to me.
I feel better now.
And Trump is either a turning point or a speed bump.

By: Xylourgos

Xylourgos — Fri, 12 Dec 2025 13:20:15 +0000

Obviously Bobby Caldwell is a “Black” Irishman. 🙂 Actually there is such a thing. I have some of the genetic makeup myself, although the singing trait did not come thru. During the war between GB and Spain, a number of ships of the Spanish Armada were sunk off the West Irish coast. A number of black, African sailors washed ashore and resumed life in their new home.

By: Brian E

Brian E — Fri, 12 Dec 2025 06:03:34 +0000

I caught a little of the insanity of Candace Owens surrounding suggestions people at Turning Point and insinuation about Erika herself having something to do with Charlie’s assassination.

Candace Owens is certainly the Jerry Springer of influencers. It’s sad, though adding insightful commentary on a regular basis is hard work. The fallback is apparently conspiracy theories, it doesn’t take as much talent.

By: Bob Wilson

Bob Wilson — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 23:15:02 +0000

The 21 Indiana Senate rino traitors. They will be primaried and I will make it my business to look up and contribute to their opponents
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? BREAKING: President Trump allies announce IMMEDIATE primary challenges to every Indiana State Senate Republican up for reelection who voted “NO” on the 2026 redistricting map.

21 REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED NO:
Eric Bassler
Vaneta Becker
Mike Bohacek
Rodric Bray
Brian Buchanan
James Buck
Ed Charbonneau
Mike Crider
Spencer Deery
Dan Dernulc
Blake Doriot
Susan Glick
Greg Goode
Travis Holdman
Jean Leising
Ryan Mishler
Rick Niemeyer
Linda Rogers
Mark Spencer
Kyle Walker
Greg Walker

By: MollyG

MollyG — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 20:24:28 +0000

Neo, have you written about National Republican Senatorial Committee v. Federal Election Commission, which Marc Elias argued before the US Supreme Court earlier this week?

By: butkus51

butkus51 — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 19:41:31 +0000

wait til people hear about Mike Obama being black.

By: Selfy

Selfy — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 19:38:14 +0000

Thanks, Neo, for keeping the open thread going — it’s always a nice place to catch up with the regulars. I’ve been buried in work/real life this week, so I’m late to the party, but it’s good to see the usual thoughtful discussion here. Hope everyone is staying warm/sane/cheerful as we head toward the holidays (or whatever seasonal struggle applies!). I’ll try to be more sociable next time instead of just lurking.

[Composed by grok.com]

By: Bob Wilson

Bob Wilson — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 18:44:14 +0000

Florida is taking on the transgender industrial complex

Florida ATTORNEY GENERAL JAMES UTHMEIER FILES COMPLAINT AGAINST MEDICAL ORGANIZATIONS FOR PROMOTING CHILD MUTILATION

https://www.myfloridalegal.com/newsrelease/attorney-general-james-uthmeier-files-complaint-against-medical-organizations-promoting

The left media is studiously, avoiding mentioning this, but I think the lawsuit will have traction. These medical grifter know that their evidence for mutilating and poisoning children is very thin. Here is what the grok ai says about wpath’s evidence for their therapies

No, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) does not have strong, high-quality evidence supporting gender-affirming medical interventions (such as puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones) for children and adolescents with gender dysphoria.
WPATH’s current guidelines are the Standards of Care Version 8 (SOC-8), published in 2022. They recommend individualized gender-affirming care for youth, including puberty suppression (typically starting at Tanner stage 2) and hormones (often around age 16), but emphasize that decisions must be made case-by-case with multidisciplinary teams.
However, multiple independent systematic reviews and analyses have concluded that the evidence base for these interventions in youth is weak or very low quality. Key points include:
• WPATH itself acknowledges in SOC-8 that the number of high-quality studies is limited, relying on observational data, expert consensus, and lower-certainty evidence rather than randomized controlled trials (which are ethically challenging in this area).
• Independent systematic reviews (e.g., those commissioned by the UK’s Cass Review in 2024, NICE in 2020, and others in 2023–2025) consistently rate the evidence for benefits (e.g., reduced gender dysphoria, improved mental health) as low or very low certainty. They also note insufficient long-term data on risks like bone density loss, fertility impacts, or cognitive effects.
• The Cass Review (a comprehensive independent review of youth gender care) found that WPATH’s SOC-8 overstates the strength of evidence in places, and it recommended restricting medical interventions outside research settings due to the weak evidence foundation.
• Other countries (e.g., Sweden, Finland, Norway, and parts of the UK) have restricted or paused routine use of puberty blockers and hormones for youth for similar reasons.
WPATH and supporters (e.g., some U.S. medical organizations) argue that existing observational studies show benefits like reduced suicidality and that withholding care causes harm, while critics point to methodological issues in those studies (e.g., small samples, lack of controls, high dropout rates) and potential risks.
In summary, while WPATH promotes gender-affirming care for youth as evidence-informed, the scientific consensus from rigorous evidence reviews is that the evidence is not robust enough to support widespread use without significant caveats. This remains a highly debated and politicized topic, with ongoing calls for more high-quality research.

By: Jon baker

Jon baker — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 18:14:24 +0000

I can remember being in very elaborate,very command interactive computer based Brigade and even Corp level exercises in the National Guard in the 1990s and early 2000 s and the OPFOR had endless amounts of troops. We were evaluated on how well we adjusted and fought till the end. A brigade was reduced to a battalion strength. Battalions reduced to companies. Companies ceased to exist. Finally they would mercifully end the exercise.

By: Niketas Choniates

Niketas Choniates — Thu, 11 Dec 2025 17:59:24 +0000

If there is a prize for lamest hit piece on a GOP candidate, it has just been won for all time:

In 2011, Meg Van Epps (née Wrather), wife of GOP special election candidate Matt Van Epps, tweeted a link to a Yahoo News “Upshot” article titled Photos of Hitler’s Wife Stir the Web, writing: “New pictures of Hitler's wife just surfaced. I had never thought about her before or what she must have been like.”

That's it. That's the bad thing she did, 14 years ago. They make sure to mention that Trump endorsed the candidate.