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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Got a friend who moved to NYC from Texas some years ago. Proudly leaving his Texas roots behind and being progressive. Currently,  he is nervously thinking about voting against himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a friend who moved to NYC from Texas some years ago. Proudly leaving his Texas roots behind and being progressive. Currently,  he is nervously thinking about voting against himself.</p>
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		By: Chris Stoneking		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/09/mamdanis-dream-team-imagine-there-are-no-prisons/#comment-2833630</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Stoneking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 16:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The prisons won&#039;t go empty though; they&#039;ll be full of the Marxist&#039;s enemies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prisons won&#8217;t go empty though; they&#8217;ll be full of the Marxist&#8217;s enemies.</p>
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		By: Jimmy McNulty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy McNulty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 03:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They remind me of Thomas Szasz, who thought mental illness was a construct to control people.
Sure, crazy isn&#039;t crazy and theft and violence are fine as long as a victim does it.

Civilizations sometimes die by suicide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They remind me of Thomas Szasz, who thought mental illness was a construct to control people.<br />
Sure, crazy isn&#8217;t crazy and theft and violence are fine as long as a victim does it.</p>
<p>Civilizations sometimes die by suicide.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“…as a last resort.”

This assumes that there will be any remaining police to call…

…keeping in mind that Madmani is a radical, utterly dishonest (but I repeat myself) far-left/Marxist ideologue. 

Ah well, HOPE springs eternal in the human breast…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…as a last resort.”</p>
<p>This assumes that there will be any remaining police to call…</p>
<p>…keeping in mind that Madmani is a radical, utterly dishonest (but I repeat myself) far-left/Marxist ideologue. </p>
<p>Ah well, HOPE springs eternal in the human breast…</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The proposed “remedy” is a kind of REPARATIONS on a—in this case—municipal scale.**

(Ultimately, the plan is to make it GLOBAL.)

The actual goal is destruction…

…after all, WHO owes WHOM what? (And ACCORDING TO WHOM??)

** One can, likewise view (excuse?) Tim Walz, Newsom, Pritzker and most blue governors—as promoting reparations in their respective states…not to mention “Biden”, overall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proposed “remedy” is a kind of REPARATIONS on a—in this case—municipal scale.**</p>
<p>(Ultimately, the plan is to make it GLOBAL.)</p>
<p>The actual goal is destruction…</p>
<p>…after all, WHO owes WHOM what? (And ACCORDING TO WHOM??)</p>
<p>** One can, likewise view (excuse?) Tim Walz, Newsom, Pritzker and most blue governors—as promoting reparations in their respective states…not to mention “Biden”, overall.</p>
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		By: MollyG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MollyG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL. Sometimes you just have to laugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Sometimes you just have to laugh.</p>
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		By: Turtler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turtler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 22:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re Neo and Eeyore, I would agree that crime’s roots being multifaceted. But this often devolves into being an excuse to avoid addressing what those are and the degree to which we can deal with them. And one undeniable root of them - probably the most important - is the fallen, depraved nature of humans and the natural world. I am a Christian so I understand this in a spiritual and supernatural way, but one can understand it in other senses as well. Ultimately evil exists and it exists in all of us to one degree or another, and it ties in to every crime, no matter how justifiable or understandable. And we can manage that with many ways -one of which has to be punishment - including incarceration and execution - to help limit the misery.

But while it is justifiably taboo to talk about growing government on our side - and I can understand given how we literally cannot afford it - one area where I feel government actually could do with being bigger would be in the criminal justice system, at most levels. Issue is trying to avoid it being wasted. But as it is there are big issues with overcrowding.

First thing I feel would be majorly expanding the size and number of Public Defenders, to prepare the way for what is coming next. Those that exist are horribly overworked and underappreciated, and that does not help. Issue is I feel you need to expand their numbers to get a lower case to head ratio, and make it a more appealing position to attract more quality personnel. These are the people who are the public’s defense and shield against persecution from the government. We should all recognize the importance of that after January 6th. It may result in more acquittals of the guilty and fewer convictions or plea deals, but that is far from the worst sin. It would also prepare the way here.

I would also say you need to build more prisons. Lots of them if need be. This is taboo and unappealing for a host of reasons, including cost. To say nothing of hiring the security for it. But at present it’s no secret that American prisons tend to be hugely overcrowded and understaffed, which is one reason for the power of gangs and in prison criminals. The goal of this is ultimately to be able to spread out the prison population. Including greater ability to quarantine death penalty cases or the worst of the worst like El Chapo from General Population in order to isolate and humiliate them, and to spread Gen Pop out on a wider scale so that they have some more room to stretch their legs, but also have more eyes on them from staff. This would be to try and lessen the turmoil in Gen Pop, to make it easier to do the “rehabilitation” thing everyone loves talking about but which often does not happen, and to create a population profile closer to those in some other countries like Sweden (yah I know, using Sweden as a positive counterpoint in current yeah). The idea here is to try and filter wheat from chaff, identifying those that are relatively minor offenders or exceptional ones who probably would not re-offend and who would be more receptive to being rehabilitated, and those that are basically unlikely to be rehabbed. Habitual or hardcore criminals who you focus on punishment and containment with, either executing them or focused on long term detention. 

The idea is you try and give people the best possible chances to get their act straight if their crimes warrant it, making prison a more secure and less crowded (and thus more peaceful or at least contained environment) so you try and leaven rehab and punishment so they have some grounds to head back out with marketable skills and hopefully connections and hope they don’t come back. If that fails or the crime is that serious, you focus on basically dumping them into a dark hole they do not come out of for as long as their sentence lasts, or never/until execution, where they are kept in humane and secure conditions but that is it.

Crime has many faces and many roots, and unfortunately many of them are cases where justice and law enforcement are ill equipped to manage. But at the same token it can only go that far. Understanding and even empathizing with the criminal does not necessarily have to mean justifying them or arguing they don’t deserve punishment (in many cases I’d argue it justifies the opposite). And while I’m prepared to at least consider a lot of “prison reform” or “police reform” initiatives that the progs do (have even considered the wisdom or lack thereof of “social workers” and Cops, namely sticking one per patrol car or “shop” to work with the police, in a subordinate role with the idea of having them stick in the car if things get hot or at risk).

But most of it strikes me as either Trojan horses for C-P style overburdening and collapse, or hopelessly naive. And I say this in spite of knowing how there are flaws and problems with my broad concepts that I haven’t seen yet and how you’d need more careful management.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Neo and Eeyore, I would agree that crime’s roots being multifaceted. But this often devolves into being an excuse to avoid addressing what those are and the degree to which we can deal with them. And one undeniable root of them &#8211; probably the most important &#8211; is the fallen, depraved nature of humans and the natural world. I am a Christian so I understand this in a spiritual and supernatural way, but one can understand it in other senses as well. Ultimately evil exists and it exists in all of us to one degree or another, and it ties in to every crime, no matter how justifiable or understandable. And we can manage that with many ways -one of which has to be punishment &#8211; including incarceration and execution &#8211; to help limit the misery.</p>
<p>But while it is justifiably taboo to talk about growing government on our side &#8211; and I can understand given how we literally cannot afford it &#8211; one area where I feel government actually could do with being bigger would be in the criminal justice system, at most levels. Issue is trying to avoid it being wasted. But as it is there are big issues with overcrowding.</p>
<p>First thing I feel would be majorly expanding the size and number of Public Defenders, to prepare the way for what is coming next. Those that exist are horribly overworked and underappreciated, and that does not help. Issue is I feel you need to expand their numbers to get a lower case to head ratio, and make it a more appealing position to attract more quality personnel. These are the people who are the public’s defense and shield against persecution from the government. We should all recognize the importance of that after January 6th. It may result in more acquittals of the guilty and fewer convictions or plea deals, but that is far from the worst sin. It would also prepare the way here.</p>
<p>I would also say you need to build more prisons. Lots of them if need be. This is taboo and unappealing for a host of reasons, including cost. To say nothing of hiring the security for it. But at present it’s no secret that American prisons tend to be hugely overcrowded and understaffed, which is one reason for the power of gangs and in prison criminals. The goal of this is ultimately to be able to spread out the prison population. Including greater ability to quarantine death penalty cases or the worst of the worst like El Chapo from General Population in order to isolate and humiliate them, and to spread Gen Pop out on a wider scale so that they have some more room to stretch their legs, but also have more eyes on them from staff. This would be to try and lessen the turmoil in Gen Pop, to make it easier to do the “rehabilitation” thing everyone loves talking about but which often does not happen, and to create a population profile closer to those in some other countries like Sweden (yah I know, using Sweden as a positive counterpoint in current yeah). The idea here is to try and filter wheat from chaff, identifying those that are relatively minor offenders or exceptional ones who probably would not re-offend and who would be more receptive to being rehabilitated, and those that are basically unlikely to be rehabbed. Habitual or hardcore criminals who you focus on punishment and containment with, either executing them or focused on long term detention. </p>
<p>The idea is you try and give people the best possible chances to get their act straight if their crimes warrant it, making prison a more secure and less crowded (and thus more peaceful or at least contained environment) so you try and leaven rehab and punishment so they have some grounds to head back out with marketable skills and hopefully connections and hope they don’t come back. If that fails or the crime is that serious, you focus on basically dumping them into a dark hole they do not come out of for as long as their sentence lasts, or never/until execution, where they are kept in humane and secure conditions but that is it.</p>
<p>Crime has many faces and many roots, and unfortunately many of them are cases where justice and law enforcement are ill equipped to manage. But at the same token it can only go that far. Understanding and even empathizing with the criminal does not necessarily have to mean justifying them or arguing they don’t deserve punishment (in many cases I’d argue it justifies the opposite). And while I’m prepared to at least consider a lot of “prison reform” or “police reform” initiatives that the progs do (have even considered the wisdom or lack thereof of “social workers” and Cops, namely sticking one per patrol car or “shop” to work with the police, in a subordinate role with the idea of having them stick in the car if things get hot or at risk).</p>
<p>But most of it strikes me as either Trojan horses for C-P style overburdening and collapse, or hopelessly naive. And I say this in spite of knowing how there are flaws and problems with my broad concepts that I haven’t seen yet and how you’d need more careful management.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[F:

The New Yorkers I&#039;ve spoken to recently haven&#039;t said a single word about Mamdani, and I haven&#039;t asked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F:</p>
<p>The New Yorkers I&#8217;ve spoken to recently haven&#8217;t said a single word about Mamdani, and I haven&#8217;t asked.</p>
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		By: CICERO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CICERO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 20:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why the gee whiz about &quot;black revolutionaries&quot;? Oh, I see: “There are some people in our movement that need to be high so that they can imagine the world that we can’t see currently”.
Sheesh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the gee whiz about &#8220;black revolutionaries&#8221;? Oh, I see: “There are some people in our movement that need to be high so that they can imagine the world that we can’t see currently”.<br />
Sheesh.</p>
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		By: F		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 20:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can understand Portland going where it did -- when I visited 30 or more years ago it was a spaced-out city that considered lawlessness as &quot;art&quot; and tolerated open drug use.

But frankly, I cannot believe the people of New York will be pleased with this turn of events.  When street crime starts going up like it has in LA and San Francisco, old and new residents alike will call for change.  Of course they could have nipped this in the bud by voting for someone else, but that train has left the station and perhaps they&#039;ve learned their lesson.  Perhaps.  It would have been easier for them to vote for someone else if there had been a reasonable alternative, granted.  But in a race between unreasonable and out-freaking rageous, sometimes unreasonable is the better choice.  Please tell us, Neo, what your New York friends are saying about developments there.  Do they really want to be San Francisco on the east coast?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand Portland going where it did &#8212; when I visited 30 or more years ago it was a spaced-out city that considered lawlessness as &#8220;art&#8221; and tolerated open drug use.</p>
<p>But frankly, I cannot believe the people of New York will be pleased with this turn of events.  When street crime starts going up like it has in LA and San Francisco, old and new residents alike will call for change.  Of course they could have nipped this in the bud by voting for someone else, but that train has left the station and perhaps they&#8217;ve learned their lesson.  Perhaps.  It would have been easier for them to vote for someone else if there had been a reasonable alternative, granted.  But in a race between unreasonable and out-freaking rageous, sometimes unreasonable is the better choice.  Please tell us, Neo, what your New York friends are saying about developments there.  Do they really want to be San Francisco on the east coast?</p>
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