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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/04/open-thread-12-4-2025/#comment-2832876</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 06:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here’s an interesting one:

“Model Collapse: The Entire Bubble Economy Is A Hallucination”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/model-collapse-entire-bubble-economy-hallucination

Guess we’ll find out pretty soon…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s an interesting one:</p>
<p>“Model Collapse: The Entire Bubble Economy Is A Hallucination”—<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/model-collapse-entire-bubble-economy-hallucination" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/model-collapse-entire-bubble-economy-hallucination</a></p>
<p>Guess we’ll find out pretty soon…</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 04:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kill Japs, kill Japs, kill more Japs.&lt;/b&gt;

--Admiral William F. &quot;Bull&quot; Halsey &lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Kill Japs, kill Japs, kill more Japs.</b></p>
<p>&#8211;Admiral William F. &#8220;Bull&#8221; Halsey </i></p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On-topic: Yorkshiremen are like Scotsmen who&#039;ve had their generosity squeezed out.

@David Foster, @huxley: The US practiced unrestricted air and submarine warfare in the Pacific in WWII--meaning attacking any ships whatever without warning and without attempting to rescue survivors, even going so far as deliberately sinking their lifeboats, even though they ended up killing over 10,000 Allied POWs and slave laborers in addition to Japanese soldiers, sailors, merchant seamen, and fishermen. As one American soldier said in a different war

&lt;blockquote&gt;You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

American war crimes in WWII are not fiction or revisionism. It&#039;s good that we make more efforts to avoid them and punish them nowadays, but wars aren&#039;t won by saints and angels.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On-topic: Yorkshiremen are like Scotsmen who&#8217;ve had their generosity squeezed out.</p>
<p>@David Foster, @huxley: The US practiced unrestricted air and submarine warfare in the Pacific in WWII&#8211;meaning attacking any ships whatever without warning and without attempting to rescue survivors, even going so far as deliberately sinking their lifeboats, even though they ended up killing over 10,000 Allied POWs and slave laborers in addition to Japanese soldiers, sailors, merchant seamen, and fishermen. As one American soldier said in a different war</p>
<blockquote><p>You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out.</p></blockquote>
<p>American war crimes in WWII are not fiction or revisionism. It&#8217;s good that we make more efforts to avoid them and punish them nowadays, but wars aren&#8217;t won by saints and angels.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/04/open-thread-12-4-2025/#comment-2832824</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Foster:

As I recall, the massacre of Japanese sailors after a successful strike on their ship was a plot beat in Wouk&#039;s &quot;War and Remembrance.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Foster:</p>
<p>As I recall, the massacre of Japanese sailors after a successful strike on their ship was a plot beat in Wouk&#8217;s &#8220;War and Remembrance.&#8221;</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The issue about survivors of the attack on the drug boat reminded me of something...

A Japanese fighter pilot said the when other Japanese pilots had to bail out over their own country, American fighters would regularly machine-guy them while they were hanging from their parachutes.

The justification for this was presumably that the Japanese pilots were not and could not be surrendering, since they were over friendly territory, and hence they could return to combat.

And indeed, I believe American forces did at least sometimes rescue Japanese sailors and airmen at sea after their ships had been sunk or their planes had been shot down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue about survivors of the attack on the drug boat reminded me of something&#8230;</p>
<p>A Japanese fighter pilot said the when other Japanese pilots had to bail out over their own country, American fighters would regularly machine-guy them while they were hanging from their parachutes.</p>
<p>The justification for this was presumably that the Japanese pilots were not and could not be surrendering, since they were over friendly territory, and hence they could return to combat.</p>
<p>And indeed, I believe American forces did at least sometimes rescue Japanese sailors and airmen at sea after their ships had been sunk or their planes had been shot down.</p>
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		By: Sennacherib		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/04/open-thread-12-4-2025/#comment-2832771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sennacherib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 19:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;pipe bomber&quot;, if he knows anything they&#039;ll move heaven or hell for him, if he. knows nothing he&#039;ll burn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;pipe bomber&#8221;, if he knows anything they&#8217;ll move heaven or hell for him, if he. knows nothing he&#8217;ll burn.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/04/open-thread-12-4-2025/#comment-2832760</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This might be very interesting, shed some light, etc. (She’s already unloaded on Canada’s Carney…):

“Former British Prime Minister Liz Truss launching new show on Just the News podcast network“—
https://justthenews.com/accountability/media/hld8a-former-british-prime-minister-liz-truss-launching-new-show-just-news

(Wasn’t sure whether to post it here or in the next thread—who knows, maybe she’ll talk about her digs…)

+ Bonus (talk about shedding light…)

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5632354-shapiro-harris-memoir-dispute/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be very interesting, shed some light, etc. (She’s already unloaded on Canada’s Carney…):</p>
<p>“Former British Prime Minister Liz Truss launching new show on Just the News podcast network“—<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/accountability/media/hld8a-former-british-prime-minister-liz-truss-launching-new-show-just-news" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/accountability/media/hld8a-former-british-prime-minister-liz-truss-launching-new-show-just-news</a></p>
<p>(Wasn’t sure whether to post it here or in the next thread—who knows, maybe she’ll talk about her digs…)</p>
<p>+ Bonus (talk about shedding light…)</p>
<p><a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5632354-shapiro-harris-memoir-dispute/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5632354-shapiro-harris-memoir-dispute/</a></p>
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		By: buddhaha		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/04/open-thread-12-4-2025/#comment-2832759</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 17:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;They got the pipe bomber&quot;.
It was ignored for so long, I&#039;m convinced it was a (D-contolled) government psy-op.
Did this guy do it, or is he a patsy?
At this point, I don&#039;t trust anything being said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They got the pipe bomber&#8221;.<br />
It was ignored for so long, I&#8217;m convinced it was a (D-contolled) government psy-op.<br />
Did this guy do it, or is he a patsy?<br />
At this point, I don&#8217;t trust anything being said.</p>
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		By: Sennacherib		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/04/open-thread-12-4-2025/#comment-2832757</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sennacherib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 17:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They(Monty Python) called it a long time ago with &quot; Call Me Loretta&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They(Monty Python) called it a long time ago with &#8221; Call Me Loretta&#8221;!</p>
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		By: Sennacherib		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/04/open-thread-12-4-2025/#comment-2832756</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sennacherib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 16:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We haven&#039;t the final word from  &quot;Two Sheds&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We haven&#8217;t the final word from  &#8220;Two Sheds&#8221;!</p>
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