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		By: FOAF		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832654</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 23:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Who [Zimmerman], we later found out, had a black great-grandmother from Peru.&quot;

Don&#039;t let the facts get in the way of a good story Gringo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who [Zimmerman], we later found out, had a black great-grandmother from Peru.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let the facts get in the way of a good story Gringo!</p>
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		By: Rick67		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832620</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick67]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Such terminology has nothing to do with skin tone. It has (almost) everything to do with being Other. More specifically Other than someone from the developed, post-modern, mostly capitalist West.

If you dig enough - and you do not need to dig far at all - this is about tearing down moral, social, cultural norms. Kelly (who probably is not aware of this) is on the side of those forces that want to tear down our civilization in order to usher in Utopia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such terminology has nothing to do with skin tone. It has (almost) everything to do with being Other. More specifically Other than someone from the developed, post-modern, mostly capitalist West.</p>
<p>If you dig enough &#8211; and you do not need to dig far at all &#8211; this is about tearing down moral, social, cultural norms. Kelly (who probably is not aware of this) is on the side of those forces that want to tear down our civilization in order to usher in Utopia.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes,		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832598</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes,]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 17:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Venezuellans are largely mestizo, although there is a certain cohort that are strickly of the Spanish ethnicity, as well as Italian or German,

now these crew chiefs are lower level figures in the organization, probably with some affiliation with the Cartel del Sol, that runs the country, to go higher up the chain, would probably be upcountry, there was a diagram of the power structure,

the sequence of strikes requiring double taps or collateral damage in the Sand box and points west into Yemen or south into the Subcontinent are very large, 
there was an even a site called the Bureau investigates that was set up,

one of the rallying cries of the Yemeni branch of Al Queda, was a strike in the village of Majala, that was not pretty, although it did nab the high value target, in 2009.one of the witnesses, turns out to be have kin of Awlaki, which probably wasn&#039;t surprising, although might have been a conflict of interest,

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/taking-root-monday-december-1-2025

a partial refresher course]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venezuellans are largely mestizo, although there is a certain cohort that are strickly of the Spanish ethnicity, as well as Italian or German,</p>
<p>now these crew chiefs are lower level figures in the organization, probably with some affiliation with the Cartel del Sol, that runs the country, to go higher up the chain, would probably be upcountry, there was a diagram of the power structure,</p>
<p>the sequence of strikes requiring double taps or collateral damage in the Sand box and points west into Yemen or south into the Subcontinent are very large,<br />
there was an even a site called the Bureau investigates that was set up,</p>
<p>one of the rallying cries of the Yemeni branch of Al Queda, was a strike in the village of Majala, that was not pretty, although it did nab the high value target, in 2009.one of the witnesses, turns out to be have kin of Awlaki, which probably wasn&#8217;t surprising, although might have been a conflict of interest,</p>
<p><a href="https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/taking-root-monday-december-1-2025" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/taking-root-monday-december-1-2025</a></p>
<p>a partial refresher course</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832596</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 17:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jimmy&lt;blockquote&gt;And we all remember how the NYT described George Zimmerman as a “white Hispanic” to demonize him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Who, we later found out, had a  black great-grandmother from Peru.

huxley&lt;blockquote&gt;I do enjoy telling my liberal friends that I am a quarter-Mexican. My grandmother was from Chihuahua.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I imagine that does not please them. You are quite possibly more than one quarter Mexican, given that you are from New Mexico. Check the family tree.

The baseball great Ted Williams was one half Mexican. He was a staunch Republican who, in his induction speech to the Baseball Hall of Fame, advocated electing  to the Hall of Fame black baseball greats such as Josh Gibson whose color had excluded them from the major leagues. 

A number of commenters have made the point that &quot;brown&quot; legal immigrants do not like line-jumpers, &quot;brown&quot; or whatever their color.

A Hispanic friend once called me a &quot;mojado&quot; (wetback) for my proficiency in Spanish. 

As I had to jump through the legal hoops to get work visas in Latin America, I have little tolerance for line-jumpers in the US.

Unlimited immigration? Gerald Gardner had an appropriate photo caption in the 1970s where President Carter was talking to Chinese honcho Deng Xiao Peng. Carter tells Deng that China should permit Chinese citizens to emigrate they so desired. Deng to Carter: &quot;That&#039;s fine. How many hundred million are you willing to take?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy</p>
<blockquote><p>And we all remember how the NYT described George Zimmerman as a “white Hispanic” to demonize him.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who, we later found out, had a  black great-grandmother from Peru.</p>
<p>huxley</p>
<blockquote><p>I do enjoy telling my liberal friends that I am a quarter-Mexican. My grandmother was from Chihuahua.</p></blockquote>
<p>I imagine that does not please them. You are quite possibly more than one quarter Mexican, given that you are from New Mexico. Check the family tree.</p>
<p>The baseball great Ted Williams was one half Mexican. He was a staunch Republican who, in his induction speech to the Baseball Hall of Fame, advocated electing  to the Hall of Fame black baseball greats such as Josh Gibson whose color had excluded them from the major leagues. </p>
<p>A number of commenters have made the point that &#8220;brown&#8221; legal immigrants do not like line-jumpers, &#8220;brown&#8221; or whatever their color.</p>
<p>A Hispanic friend once called me a &#8220;mojado&#8221; (wetback) for my proficiency in Spanish. </p>
<p>As I had to jump through the legal hoops to get work visas in Latin America, I have little tolerance for line-jumpers in the US.</p>
<p>Unlimited immigration? Gerald Gardner had an appropriate photo caption in the 1970s where President Carter was talking to Chinese honcho Deng Xiao Peng. Carter tells Deng that China should permit Chinese citizens to emigrate they so desired. Deng to Carter: &#8220;That&#8217;s fine. How many hundred million are you willing to take?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 16:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Brown&quot; is not intended as literally skin tone any more than &quot;black&quot; is (what percentage of black people have literally black skin?).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brown&#8221; is not intended as literally skin tone any more than &#8220;black&#8221; is (what percentage of black people have literally black skin?).</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Not sure I quite understand this.&lt;/i&gt;  --  Barry M

My take is that this is just crass political calculation.  As always, with the left.

The black vote has been sewn up and in the Dem column for decades.  And while Trump may chip away a little at the younger male black vote, it&#039;s not that significant.  (Or perhaps the Dems hope it isn&#039;t significant.)

But there is a large Latino electorate who&#039;s vote is more fluid.  (Or worrisome, from the Dem perspective.)  Plus, you have the folks from India or elsewhere who may look rather brown and they can include themselves if they are inclined.

Rhetorically, it is also leveraging the history of anti-black racism and the fight against it.  I also wonder if Kelly is trying to skewer Trump for going after drug cartel people who are predominantly Latino.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not sure I quite understand this.</i>  &#8212;  Barry M</p>
<p>My take is that this is just crass political calculation.  As always, with the left.</p>
<p>The black vote has been sewn up and in the Dem column for decades.  And while Trump may chip away a little at the younger male black vote, it&#8217;s not that significant.  (Or perhaps the Dems hope it isn&#8217;t significant.)</p>
<p>But there is a large Latino electorate who&#8217;s vote is more fluid.  (Or worrisome, from the Dem perspective.)  Plus, you have the folks from India or elsewhere who may look rather brown and they can include themselves if they are inclined.</p>
<p>Rhetorically, it is also leveraging the history of anti-black racism and the fight against it.  I also wonder if Kelly is trying to skewer Trump for going after drug cartel people who are predominantly Latino.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n.n]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 15:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are blacks who are a pure white (i.e. integrated rainbows).  There are browns who are darker than night.  A lot of people of peach in the northern latitudes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are blacks who are a pure white (i.e. integrated rainbows).  There are browns who are darker than night.  A lot of people of peach in the northern latitudes.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n.n]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 15:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Applying Cecile&#039;s Scalpel, Critical Diversity Theory reveals a life is reduced to color and class under bloc ideologies. #HateLovesAbortion]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applying Cecile&#8217;s Scalpel, Critical Diversity Theory reveals a life is reduced to color and class under bloc ideologies. #HateLovesAbortion</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 13:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David,

I can attest to what you say by my own anecdote:  My niece-in-law is from Ecuador and went through the entire process of green card to now US citizenship.   She has nothing good to say at all about any line jumpers and those who help them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I can attest to what you say by my own anecdote:  My niece-in-law is from Ecuador and went through the entire process of green card to now US citizenship.   She has nothing good to say at all about any line jumpers and those who help them.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/12/02/brown-and-borrowed-racial-victimhood/#comment-2832565</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 13:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And we all remember how the NYT described George Zimmerman as a &quot;white Hispanic&quot; to demonize him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we all remember how the NYT described George Zimmerman as a &#8220;white Hispanic&#8221; to demonize him.</p>
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