Comments on: The drama of the “illegal orders” six

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Thu, 27 Nov 2025 06:45:09 +0000

@ ColoComment > “Craig Pirrong’s post (and I think he has it right)”

He brings up several things I haven’t seen mentioned elsewhere yet, particularly the irrelevance of Kelly’s appeal to his service record as indicating he can’t possibly be suggesting mutiny — Pirrong gives the example of Benedict Arnold to the contrary.

One of his commenters notes, as covered in Neo’s 11/26 post:
“Prof, the murder of two National Guardsmen gave me an insight. Try this on for size:

The mouthings of the Seditious Six may not simply be boilerplate babytalk born in the communist brainstem: they may be the first stage of a broader plan, the next stage of which is: ‘If you ARE, or CHOOSE to, or CONTINUE TO, follow illegal orders (as defined by us), then you become ‘fair game’, either for lawfare or for Antifa’.”

Thankfully, it was only attempted murder, but still it’s a bad sign.

However, the perp has been identified as an Afghan immigrant (part of Biden’s folly), so maybe it’s just straight-out regular jihadi rampaging. Still, given the way the Left supports the Palestinians and other Muslim terrorists, the list of “fair game hunters” that the commenter gave above could easily be expanded to cover them as well.

By: R2L

R2L — Thu, 27 Nov 2025 03:29:27 +0000

This attempt to direct the Dem argument towards Trump as an excessively dictatorial CIC seems somewhat flawed simply by virtue that any command he makes will probably be reviewed by smart staffers who can ask a mitigating question, such as “Sir, perhaps you were not aware of the potential consequences of this order ….??”
But as comments above have suggested, illegal orders are more likely to be made by lower levels of command, although arrogance can still distort a seasoned person’s perspective. [Along with illness, arguments with the spouse, etc. .]

By: Snow on Pine

Snow on Pine — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 21:14:25 +0000

Wasn’t Miley one of those given one of those last minute, auto pen pardons by the staffers in Biden’s White House?

Does that mean that he can’t be prosecuted under the UCMJ?

And speaking of those autopen pardons, this issue seems to have just faded from view.

This situation should be adjudicated, settled, and mechanisms put into place to make sure that such phony, unauthorized pardons can’t be issued in the future and, as well, some of those phony pardons and amnesties need to be voided.

But, good luck getting any useful testimony in court from “the Turnip’,” an increasingly demented Biden.

By: Skip

Skip — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 20:31:58 +0000

Mh opinion is they hope military personnel start to question anything and decide themselves something isn’t in order so make themselves a model against the administration or War department.
It’s open ended purposely to cover the 6 but hope something pops open to get a charge a event is illegal.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 20:19:23 +0000

It looks like the video was part of a larger, organized attempt to subvert the military. I think that changes things. Free expression is one thing, being part of a group play aimed at the military is something else. I wonder if “The Dirty Half-Dozen” were aware of that? They may have laid down with dogs. Or they may be dogs.

By: ColoComment

ColoComment — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 19:03:34 +0000

“Again, just slippery and weaselly and indirect and metaphorical enough to make legal establishment of motive difficult. But we all know that’s what they meant.”

Craig Pirrong’s post (and I think he has it right):
https://streetwiseprofessor.com/sedition-hard-to-prove-conduct-prejudicial-to-good-order-and-discipline-definitely/

By: Snow on Pine

Snow on Pine — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 18:25:15 +0000

om–Time for President Trump–as Commander in Chief–to reassert Presidential authority and control over our military.

Yeah, Miley would seem to be a prime target, if Trump wanted to go after an officer who tried to ignore the Commander in Chief, reportedly contacted Chinese military authorities, and told them he would warn them if Trump were to decide to do something aggressive towards China, and stir up dissent in the ranks.

And as has been said, ex-military personnel can be recalled, and if they are charged and tried, it will be under the framework of the UCMJ, which is a much harsher, more no-nonsense legal system than our civilian one is.

By: M J R

M J R — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 18:12:27 +0000

Richard Aubrey (12:32 pm) said: “I think the point is to condemn something DJT orders, shrieking “ILLEGAL!!!!”, and hope some gullible chump does something catastrophic.”

I personally agree . . .

. . . OR, the point is to serve thinly-veiled notice to Republican/conservative military personnel that they will be mercilessly prosecuted for carrying out any orders from Commander-In-Chief Trump that the left deems worthy of lawfare-style prosecution.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 17:32:00 +0000

I think the point is to condemn something DJT orders,shrieking “ILLEGAL!!!!”, and hope some gullible chump does something catastrophic.

By: Snow on Pine

Snow on Pine — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 16:46:16 +0000

I say that President Trump and the DOJ/DOD should go after these six in any way they can, otherwise–minus any penalty for uttering them–the next such statements–and you can bet that, absent any punishment–there will be more such statements, will only get more inflammatory.