Comments on: Is the shutdown coming to an end?

By: HC68

HC68 — Mon, 10 Nov 2025 18:57:19 +0000

I strongly suspect that much of what this shutdown has really been over is Schumer's worries about a primary challenge from AOC.

By: Ray-SoCa

Ray-SoCa — Sun, 09 Nov 2025 16:52:16 +0000

Shutdowns did not exist before 1980. Jimmy Carters ag’s interpretation.

Can this be changed?

https://time.com/5493596/government-shutdown-history/

By: R2L

R2L — Sun, 09 Nov 2025 03:44:07 +0000

@ Barry: ““Ethos, pathos, and logos”—”
Somewhere in that enlightened education we need to reassert the concept that a system that makes the people sovereign over their government, so they can maximize their personal and group liberty and minimize dependence and slavery, requires that they also face reality and accept responsibility for what they find. To my mind that folds logic, authority, and emotion/ sensibility into the mix as part of achieving the greatest human flourishing.

By: bof

bof — Sat, 08 Nov 2025 21:30:35 +0000

What would happen if the Senate went back to the old-fashioned talking filibuster? Would that make it easy to break a filibuster, or would it be inconsequential?

By: Barry Meislin

Barry Meislin — Sat, 08 Nov 2025 18:16:13 +0000

Not exactly sure why they should end it…

Example n to the nth:
“Ethos, pathos, and logos”—
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/11/ethos-pathos-and-logos.php

Trump is being accused en masse (by the Projection Party and other usual hysterics, pervs and wackos) of being prepared to cause the deaths of millions of Americans—ESPECIALLY KIDS!! (But of course…)

Nope. Not exactly sure why they should end it.

By: Leland

Leland — Sat, 08 Nov 2025 14:36:31 +0000

I think because Democrats feel they “won” Tuesday’s election; they are going to keep the shutdown going a bit longer because they feel like to can get more concessions now. I don’t feel like they won much more than their own constituents, with Virginia being the only partial exception. So now, they are trying the court again, but this time to demand Trump act illegally. They think the court can demand Trump appropriate funds and spend them specifically without Congressional approval. And while they know that cannot and will not be done; they are using the media to spin it as Trump trying to block spending, rather than Trump saying the President doesn’t have the authority and neither does the court. Once that silliness is run its course in the news cycle; maybe they’ll be a compromise to shutdown.

However, as other note, there is more pain to come with the busiest flying days of the year and airports being shutdown. Well, not actually shutdown, more like a gamble on whether you can get through security within half a day.

By: R2L

R2L — Sat, 08 Nov 2025 05:18:12 +0000

The airline reductions also raise the issue in my mind of why exactly do we need the air traffic controllers to be federal employees at all? Vs. private sector organizations. Put that cost directly into the cost of tickets where it belongs, along with related airport infrastructure.

Yes, screeners were private sector back in the day, and converting/expanding that role into TSA has been a mixed blessing. False ideas about the religion of peace have been the core issue avoided here all along. TSA precheck and related vetting programs should be making the security time slog faster and more reliable. Better focus on auditing and surprise inspections and other metrics might make the ATC and related services justified as private sector elements.

It might be a stretch but I suspect some folks are exploring the use of AI in the ATC role. Less risks due to fatigue, or issues with disagreements with spouses or children, etc.

By: J.J.

J.J. — Sat, 08 Nov 2025 04:32:19 +0000

“Dems are hoping for an airline collision they can blame on Trump, but these things take time.” – Ray Van Dune

If enough people call the Dem Senators and tell them they’ll have blood on their hands, it might change their calculations. The Dems are counting on people not paying much attention. Air travelers are being affected and will be more so each day. If every one of them called and demanded the government reopen, it would resonate. One call doesn’t matter but several thousand gets their attention. Just do it. It’s like voiding – except only on one issue. It’s why they have phone numbers – to get voter input. I don’t understand why people won’t do it. It’s easy. Takes maybe four minutes or less.

By: Ray Van Dune

Ray Van Dune — Sat, 08 Nov 2025 03:17:42 +0000

Dems are hoping for an airline collision they can blame on Trump, but these things take time.

By: Bob Wilson

Bob Wilson — Sat, 08 Nov 2025 01:52:13 +0000

Bill Glahn of powerlineblog says there is no deal

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/11/no-deal-on-ending-shutdown.php
“ NO DEAL ON ENDING SHUTDOWN
Democrats think they are “winning” the shutdown. As long as they continue to think that, it will continue, into 2026, perhaps into 2029.

Yesterday’s offer from Senate leader John Thune (R-SD) has been rejected. From The Hill newspaper,

Deal to reopen government falters over Democrats’ distrust of Trump.

A “deal” can’t “falter” if there never was a deal. Distrust of Trump? The Hill reports,

Democratic support for a potential deal to reopen the government has crumbled because of deep mistrust among Senate Democrats over whether they can trust President Trump to act in good faith to extend health insurance subsidies or to stop firing federal workers.

Was there ever any Democratic support? They mistrust/distrust/don’t trust that Trump will meet 100 percent of their demands. Is that Trump’s “fault”?”