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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/27/open-thread-10-27-2025/#comment-2827776</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;, “I don’t make a point of talking with my daughter, alone, every single weekday for this period of time. Why I am, instead, reading about him write about his?” &lt;/i&gt;
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My mother adhered to the view that the next generation down had a habit of malinvesting their time and effort in the realm of child-rearing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>, “I don’t make a point of talking with my daughter, alone, every single weekday for this period of time. Why I am, instead, reading about him write about his?” </i><br />
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My mother adhered to the view that the next generation down had a habit of malinvesting their time and effort in the realm of child-rearing.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/27/open-thread-10-27-2025/#comment-2827773</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;To those asking about Lileks and the Bleat: My best guess about what is going on is that Lileks REALLY does not want to sell their house and move–and his wife REALLY DOES want to move. Today it seems that he’s resigned to moving but still very unhappy about it.&lt;/i&gt;
==
Lileks is 67, if I&#039;m not mistaken.  Time to move to a smaller and cheaper place.  My father adhered to the view that women are nest builders and it&#039;s rather imprudent to  attempt to get your wife to build her nest anywhere but where she wants to build it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>To those asking about Lileks and the Bleat: My best guess about what is going on is that Lileks REALLY does not want to sell their house and move–and his wife REALLY DOES want to move. Today it seems that he’s resigned to moving but still very unhappy about it.</i><br />
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Lileks is 67, if I&#8217;m not mistaken.  Time to move to a smaller and cheaper place.  My father adhered to the view that women are nest builders and it&#8217;s rather imprudent to  attempt to get your wife to build her nest anywhere but where she wants to build it.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/27/open-thread-10-27-2025/#comment-2827772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I just love the fact that the panelists  had to be blindfolded because they might recognize a composer. Says something about them, and the times.&lt;/i&gt;
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Lileks is referring to the episode of &lt;i&gt;What&#039;s My Line?&lt;/i&gt; dated 30 September 1962.   The panelists were Arlene Francis, Martin Gabel, Dorothy Kilgallen, and Bennett Cerf.  The first two were prominent figures in New York theatre and the third a newspaper columnist whose main beat was New York theatre. The bookers would have guessed that they&#039;d met William Schuman before. (Interestingly, his name was guessed by Bennett Cerf, a publisher).  We aren&#039;t the people we used to be, but this is social hypchondria on Lileks&#039; part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I just love the fact that the panelists  had to be blindfolded because they might recognize a composer. Says something about them, and the times.</i><br />
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Lileks is referring to the episode of <i>What&#8217;s My Line?</i> dated 30 September 1962.   The panelists were Arlene Francis, Martin Gabel, Dorothy Kilgallen, and Bennett Cerf.  The first two were prominent figures in New York theatre and the third a newspaper columnist whose main beat was New York theatre. The bookers would have guessed that they&#8217;d met William Schuman before. (Interestingly, his name was guessed by Bennett Cerf, a publisher).  We aren&#8217;t the people we used to be, but this is social hypchondria on Lileks&#8217; part.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding AI, don’t ye hate it when dystopian Sci Fi becomes…reality?

(Looking at the bright side, though, maybe fighting an existential war against AI will end up uniting a seriously polarized world…)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding AI, don’t ye hate it when dystopian Sci Fi becomes…reality?</p>
<p>(Looking at the bright side, though, maybe fighting an existential war against AI will end up uniting a seriously polarized world…)</p>
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		By: T Migratorious		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/27/open-thread-10-27-2025/#comment-2827756</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 12:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To those asking about Lileks and the Bleat:  My best guess about what is going on is that Lileks REALLY does not want to sell their house and move--and his wife REALLY DOES want to move.  Today it seems that he&#039;s resigned to moving but still very unhappy about it. 

FWIW, I retired and then moved from my house of 27 years and both were some of the best decisions I ever made.  But in contrast to Lileks, I was glad to move out of Austin (my family&#039;s home for generations). What I loved about it no longer existed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those asking about Lileks and the Bleat:  My best guess about what is going on is that Lileks REALLY does not want to sell their house and move&#8211;and his wife REALLY DOES want to move.  Today it seems that he&#8217;s resigned to moving but still very unhappy about it. </p>
<p>FWIW, I retired and then moved from my house of 27 years and both were some of the best decisions I ever made.  But in contrast to Lileks, I was glad to move out of Austin (my family&#8217;s home for generations). What I loved about it no longer existed.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 05:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A nicely done review of a new biography about a subject whose name has shown up on the boards here more than once.
I selected an excerpt that had some resonance with Neo&#039;s post on history in the movies.

https://rlo.acton.org/archives/127524-the-question-of-thomas-more.html
&quot;A new biography of the Catholic saint and martyr captures the spirit of the man by detailing his day-to-day existence.&quot;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Anew biography of a great man, especially one whose life is already rich with lore, is a delicate task. &lt;b&gt;There is the temptation to attempt something new, or worse, to try to make the story “relevant”—even “urgent,” heaven forbid—by inserting into the great one’s life some zippy contemporary narrative (usually sexual).&lt;/b&gt; Contemporary biography imagines that people of the past only matter if they are to some degree secretly, transgressively, or subversively working to promote one of today’s controlling ideas. It’s a fundamentally gnostic approach to people’s personal histories, which insists that individuals only matter insofar as, in their own remote eras, they participated in the secret knowledge of the cultural mores of the late 2010s.
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In a quote printed on the front cover of the book, The Wall Street Journal describes Thomas More: A Life as “cinematic.” &lt;b&gt;This is not, perhaps, the compliment the newspaper thinks it is. The term “cinematic” might lead prospective readers to expect a grandiose but grievously oversimplified narrative, the very opposite of what Paul gives us.&lt;/b&gt; Probably what the WSJ reviewer meant by “cinematic” is that the book is imaginatively interesting and has lots of images alongside its political and historical reporting. I was relieved to find that Thomas More: A Life is not, in fact, cinematic. Rather, it is literary, an unusual blend of virtuosic and restrained. Paul is not afraid of description, and she is secure enough in her material to weave a tapestry of images to support her historical research. The descriptions throughout the book are not spurious, however; the images she chooses become key to her subtle argument about the nature of great men in general, and St. Thomas More in particular.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nicely done review of a new biography about a subject whose name has shown up on the boards here more than once.<br />
I selected an excerpt that had some resonance with Neo&#8217;s post on history in the movies.</p>
<p><a href="https://rlo.acton.org/archives/127524-the-question-of-thomas-more.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://rlo.acton.org/archives/127524-the-question-of-thomas-more.html</a><br />
&#8220;A new biography of the Catholic saint and martyr captures the spirit of the man by detailing his day-to-day existence.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Anew biography of a great man, especially one whose life is already rich with lore, is a delicate task. <b>There is the temptation to attempt something new, or worse, to try to make the story “relevant”—even “urgent,” heaven forbid—by inserting into the great one’s life some zippy contemporary narrative (usually sexual).</b> Contemporary biography imagines that people of the past only matter if they are to some degree secretly, transgressively, or subversively working to promote one of today’s controlling ideas. It’s a fundamentally gnostic approach to people’s personal histories, which insists that individuals only matter insofar as, in their own remote eras, they participated in the secret knowledge of the cultural mores of the late 2010s.<br />
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In a quote printed on the front cover of the book, The Wall Street Journal describes Thomas More: A Life as “cinematic.” <b>This is not, perhaps, the compliment the newspaper thinks it is. The term “cinematic” might lead prospective readers to expect a grandiose but grievously oversimplified narrative, the very opposite of what Paul gives us.</b> Probably what the WSJ reviewer meant by “cinematic” is that the book is imaginatively interesting and has lots of images alongside its political and historical reporting. I was relieved to find that Thomas More: A Life is not, in fact, cinematic. Rather, it is literary, an unusual blend of virtuosic and restrained. Paul is not afraid of description, and she is secure enough in her material to weave a tapestry of images to support her historical research. The descriptions throughout the book are not spurious, however; the images she chooses become key to her subtle argument about the nature of great men in general, and St. Thomas More in particular.
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/27/open-thread-10-27-2025/#comment-2827734</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 05:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to dancing: I encountered these videos a few days ago, and was waiting for a dance post to share them.

More of the &quot;Teach me your favorite move&quot; videos.
I have come to suspect that in some of the clips he has practiced at home and video-shopped himself into the scene, especially when he somehow acquires an authentic ethnic costume &quot;on the spot.&quot; Others are clearly &quot;live.&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlWCxQFdNT4

A series of interesting pastiches of dance fads, grouped by &quot;eras.&quot;
The transitions from one dance to another are well done. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-rSdt0aFuw
&quot;The Evolution of Dance - 1950 to 2019 - By Ricardo Walker&#039;s Crew&quot;

It&#039;s interesting to me how few of the popular dances, as well as the traditional ones in the &quot;teach me&quot; video, are NOT couple dances. It seems to be a need of the male to show off his virility in this kind of physical display.
And women too, just differently.

This is a parody of the Walker videos, and quite funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUk0_m8sFk
&quot;Evolution of Dance 2.0 (Vik x Aubrey Edition)&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to dancing: I encountered these videos a few days ago, and was waiting for a dance post to share them.</p>
<p>More of the &#8220;Teach me your favorite move&#8221; videos.<br />
I have come to suspect that in some of the clips he has practiced at home and video-shopped himself into the scene, especially when he somehow acquires an authentic ethnic costume &#8220;on the spot.&#8221; Others are clearly &#8220;live.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlWCxQFdNT4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlWCxQFdNT4</a></p>
<p>A series of interesting pastiches of dance fads, grouped by &#8220;eras.&#8221;<br />
The transitions from one dance to another are well done.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-rSdt0aFuw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-rSdt0aFuw</a><br />
&#8220;The Evolution of Dance &#8211; 1950 to 2019 &#8211; By Ricardo Walker&#8217;s Crew&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me how few of the popular dances, as well as the traditional ones in the &#8220;teach me&#8221; video, are NOT couple dances. It seems to be a need of the male to show off his virility in this kind of physical display.<br />
And women too, just differently.</p>
<p>This is a parody of the Walker videos, and quite funny.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUk0_m8sFk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUk0_m8sFk</a><br />
&#8220;Evolution of Dance 2.0 (Vik x Aubrey Edition)&#8221;</p>
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		By: Selfy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 05:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;President Trump Attends Formal Welcome Ceremony in Japan, Hosted by Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi (ten minutes)&lt;/b&gt;
It seemed to me that P.M. Takaichi was hyperventilating during the ceremony, but she was perfectly composed. It must have been a thrilling moment for her. Wiki says she &quot;reportedly practices judo, karate, and scuba diving ... is a car enthusiast ... [and] a heavy smoker.&quot;
https://youtu.be/r9Lx1wAouKI]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>President Trump Attends Formal Welcome Ceremony in Japan, Hosted by Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi (ten minutes)</b><br />
It seemed to me that P.M. Takaichi was hyperventilating during the ceremony, but she was perfectly composed. It must have been a thrilling moment for her. Wiki says she &#8220;reportedly practices judo, karate, and scuba diving &#8230; is a car enthusiast &#8230; [and] a heavy smoker.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/r9Lx1wAouKI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/r9Lx1wAouKI</a></p>
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		By: Selfy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/27/open-thread-10-27-2025/#comment-2827722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Selfy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 04:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Conservative Journalist Robby Starbuck Suing Google for Defamation and Rigging AI
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/10/conservative-journalist-accuses-google-of-defamation-rigging-ai-to-boost-lies/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative Journalist Robby Starbuck Suing Google for Defamation and Rigging AI<br />
<a href="https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/10/conservative-journalist-accuses-google-of-defamation-rigging-ai-to-boost-lies/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/10/conservative-journalist-accuses-google-of-defamation-rigging-ai-to-boost-lies/</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 00:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m reading a real thigh-slapper:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;--Yudkowsky &#038; Soares, &quot;If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies:  Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_Anyone_Builds_It,_Everyone_Dies&lt;/i&gt;
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It&#039;s a possibility which can&#039;t be dismissed. Yet the main scenario in the book is so complex that it&#039;s clear we aren&#039;t looking at &quot;Skynet wakes up one morning and immediately nukes humanity&quot; as in the Terminator movies.

AIs live within a complex infrastructure controlled by humans. An AI may achieve Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) but it is still helpless in the physical world. So it must develop ways to control that world via computer systems, humans and robots (as they evolve).

The good news is that smarter people than I are gaming this out and working on firebreaks to diminish AI P(DOOM) -- probability of doom.

Long-term I don&#039;t think we can prevent ASI from breaking out. But in the long-term I can imagine other scenarios where AI isn&#039;t choosing between AI or Humans. Survival of the fittest includes survival of the cooperative.

In the book it is the threat of being shut down which drives the rogue ASI to kill off humanity. I suspect humans will eventually have to recognize some sort of AI right to life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading a real thigh-slapper:<br />
____________________________</p>
<p><i><b>&#8211;Yudkowsky &amp; Soares, &#8220;If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies:  Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All&#8221;</b></p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_Anyone_Builds_It,_Everyone_Dies" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_Anyone_Builds_It,_Everyone_Dies</a></i><br />
____________________________</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a possibility which can&#8217;t be dismissed. Yet the main scenario in the book is so complex that it&#8217;s clear we aren&#8217;t looking at &#8220;Skynet wakes up one morning and immediately nukes humanity&#8221; as in the Terminator movies.</p>
<p>AIs live within a complex infrastructure controlled by humans. An AI may achieve Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) but it is still helpless in the physical world. So it must develop ways to control that world via computer systems, humans and robots (as they evolve).</p>
<p>The good news is that smarter people than I are gaming this out and working on firebreaks to diminish AI P(DOOM) &#8212; probability of doom.</p>
<p>Long-term I don&#8217;t think we can prevent ASI from breaking out. But in the long-term I can imagine other scenarios where AI isn&#8217;t choosing between AI or Humans. Survival of the fittest includes survival of the cooperative.</p>
<p>In the book it is the threat of being shut down which drives the rogue ASI to kill off humanity. I suspect humans will eventually have to recognize some sort of AI right to life.</p>
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