Comments on: The feminization of everything

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 07:37:17 +0000

Tagging along behind, but there is a book very relevant to this discussion, which I found very helpful some years ago in explaining why I didn’t talk like, or act like, “most” women (and earlier most girls), why that was normal but unusual, and how to “translate” from female to male perspectives and vice versa.
Highly recommended. She wrote some later books that were also helpful, but not as seminal as this one.

“You Just Don’t Understand: Women and Men in Conversation” by Deborah Tannen.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 03:17:01 +0000

Neo,
Given your exceptions, the consequences are more obviously obvious and in-your-face to outsiders.
It is hard to imagine anything short of a felony in child-rearing which would not garner approval or at least neutrality from at least a third of those who know about it.
And the result….the variables from within the family, the gene pool and the outside world are so varied that rationalization is hardly necessary. Besides, you did the same thing to the older kid and nothing happened…..
But, as Einstein said, everything is relative. The theory I’m referring to presumes that men are more likely to be in a world where a bad decision will bite you or somebody else and in the latter case you’ll know about it. My father said, of his WW II service, that if he’d known what having a commission meant he’d have avoided it. That’s an extreme example, but various employment situations likely provide more immediate feedback in men’s slots than in women’s. Or just growing up. Differently.
A guy running an excavator thinks he can get one more load without hitting the pipe, so he takes the chance. Win-lose, how many times to other people, most including women for purposes of this discussion, have such consequences for getting it wrong, while under pressure, to continue the metaphor–to get that hole dug?

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:09:53 +0000

Liberal/left women are particularly devoid of facts involved in whatever it is. When facts are presented, blank looks follow. Nothing changes. No discussion of disproportionate cost, impassable obstacles, or certain negative results makes any difference. It’s “I just feel that….” or “I just think that….”.
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I’ve seen the phenomenon in fora like this. I’ve also seen it at home, though it takes the form of various evasion drills and contrived confusion.
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I’m reminded of an art historian and curator with whom I was once acquainted. Over twenty five years, she has been employed by five institutions and has recently been hired by a sixth. She can be exceedingly charming, even enchanting. I usually dealt with her secretary. As far as I could see, her staff thought well of her. She was a staff curator at a big honking important museum in New York, then a director of a succession of college art galleries, and then the director of one consequential cultural institution with a two digit staff followed by one with a three digit staff. She’s now back to running a college gallery (at a place with a lower enrollment and less selective admissions than the previous places she worked. You could say that she’s had a career crash at the age of 55. Her departure from her previous place of employment was abrupt, with her begging off questions posed by the local arts media and the chairman of the board uttering pleasant things about her. Her departure from her previous position was decorated with denunciation (to the board and the media) from professional employees leaving in disgust.
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My own wager about her career arc from a distance is that she made a satisfactory supervisor but a crummy manager. On the eve of getting the heave-ho from one position, she answered question of the local media and spoke of how she was pleased to have made the organization less hierarchical and give everyone a chance to be heard.
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She was interviewed twenty years ago and in the course of it the interviewer asked some question (the precise wording of which was decorous but which I cannot remember) to which the reply was ‘I haven’t met that person yet’. In the intervening twenty years, she still hasn’t met that person.

By: neo

neo — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 22:35:25 +0000

Richard Aubrey:

But the woman of whom you speak DO have to make difficult decisions, with consequences, in the personal realm. Decisions about whom to marry, whether to have children, and how to raise children, have major personal in-your-face consequences.

Political decisions may indeed be more removed in their consequences, but that’s not just limited to women.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 22:18:50 +0000

I’ve never been in a situation where the management was primarily female.

My experience has been other wise; social justice and peacemaking committees, discussion groups, groups deciding which or whether to take a stand on something or other.

To a certain extent, this makes no difference if all we’re doing is discussing something. But it carries over to actions taken or recommended.

Why? It’s been said, possibly here and certainly elsewhere, that middle class women rarely have to make difficult decisions which might be distasteful. Or at least make them feel bad. Because those views–not decisions–rarely result in objective action. So there’s no penalty for getting it wrong.

And where there are actual results, the women are insulated from most likely negative consequences. Sure…but property taxes go up every year anyway. What’s the connection?
Or others pay the price; the people assaulted or killed because a revolving door judge lets assailants walk are not likely in the orbit of the middle class woman who voted for the judge because, “I just feel….”. Could be first responders. People on the edge of poverty facing new zoning or housing codes. Could be soldiers. A municipal project to improve traffic flow and reduce accidents has to be put on hold while a bike path is built.
Not only is this, i submit, true of them, it’s part of the subculture in which they were raised.
So…how such women are on the city council, the school board. The church governing body, whatever that may be. Without the personal or cultural experience of paying for or seeing someone else paying for “I just feel….”
Should say my wife and daughter are not like that. Given various life experiences.

By: Don

Don — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 17:57:08 +0000

Jon baker on October 18, 2025 at 8:49 pm said:
While I hope Winsome Sears wins the Virginia governorship, we Republicans should stop playing the lefts game. Trump and Vance, two white Alpha male types won the Presidency.

Note that the woman who wrote the thesis Neo posted above explicitly states the issue isn’t individual women. Rather it is what happens when an institution is controlled by a majority of women. It’s a statistical issue, not about individuals.

By: Marlene

Marlene — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 06:48:19 +0000

Tim, “lefties I talked with about Supreme Court justices assumed that Scalia behaved as RBG did, and didn’t seem to be aware that she did.”
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What an example of bias affecting what one sees.
Kind of frightening!

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:51:23 +0000

It struck me how Ruth Bader Ginsburg would rule based on the societal implications of a case, and would complain against those implications when others ruled based on the law.
Scalia was much the opposite, and lefties I talked with about Supreme Court justices assumed that Scalia behaved as RBG did, and didn’t seem to be aware that she did.

By: Cornflour

Cornflour — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 23:48:55 +0000

Those who liked Helen Andrews’s article might want to take a look at this video of a talk she gave at the National Conservatism conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWLbq7PlrIA

Andrews argues that the feminization of law may lead to civilizational collapse. For many years, I’ve been saying the same thing about the sciences, and I don’t think I’m exaggerating. I just hope I don’t live to see it.

By: David Foster

David Foster — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 21:18:47 +0000

In the name of de-hierarchicalization, a lot of companies have established organization structures in which decision-making is very diffuse, and getting anything done requires extensive social-navigation skills. These may actually be found more commonly in women than in men.