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		By: Casey Klahn		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/08/the-anti-ice-neo-confederates/#comment-2825640</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casey Klahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2025 10:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a denizen of the great PNW, let me add that it feels like nobody gives a runny spit about Portland. Now that Chicago is involved, in a somewhat lesser way vis. the furor of Antifa, the nation&#039;s eyes are turning towards the confederation of anti-American democrats.

Here is where I add that I worked for about a decade up on Capitol Hill, Seattle. In the very place the Lefts later took over like it was Czarist Russia and 1917 again. The King of Chaz opened up his (luxery) car trunk and handed out AR carbines to what amounted to chimpanzees on meth. And here we are today.

Sorry, but I personalize everything. I&#039;m nobody but I wish I could participate more in the politics of the present day. Anyway, I wanted to say that I once read the riot act on the street. It was a training exercise, thank God. What went through my mind was that this was the job of hurting Americans on a domestic battlefield. IDK if this is the Civil War 2 people talk about, but I do watch daily as it seems we are, at least, walking through the weirdness of the Sixties again. 

Keep your powder dry, my friends.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a denizen of the great PNW, let me add that it feels like nobody gives a runny spit about Portland. Now that Chicago is involved, in a somewhat lesser way vis. the furor of Antifa, the nation&#8217;s eyes are turning towards the confederation of anti-American democrats.</p>
<p>Here is where I add that I worked for about a decade up on Capitol Hill, Seattle. In the very place the Lefts later took over like it was Czarist Russia and 1917 again. The King of Chaz opened up his (luxery) car trunk and handed out AR carbines to what amounted to chimpanzees on meth. And here we are today.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I personalize everything. I&#8217;m nobody but I wish I could participate more in the politics of the present day. Anyway, I wanted to say that I once read the riot act on the street. It was a training exercise, thank God. What went through my mind was that this was the job of hurting Americans on a domestic battlefield. IDK if this is the Civil War 2 people talk about, but I do watch daily as it seems we are, at least, walking through the weirdness of the Sixties again. </p>
<p>Keep your powder dry, my friends.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Not going to bother about whether Democrats are acting like Confederates or acting like drugged roaches in a bottle. &quot;

Embrace the power of &quot;and&quot;, AD]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not going to bother about whether Democrats are acting like Confederates or acting like drugged roaches in a bottle. &#8221;</p>
<p>Embrace the power of &#8220;and&#8221;, AD</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 02:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FOAF on October 9, 2025 at 1:16 am:
OK, brain fart # 17,396, if my count is correct.  :-)

 But Art Deco&#039;s link has a commenter saying: 
Guy7500   8 hours ago  &quot;Insurrection act is coming.&quot;
So perhaps we will see a resurrection of an insurrection? 

But reflecting on Don @ 8:09pm; &quot;We seem to be moving towards civil war ...  because Democrats insist on getting their way.&quot;
I think the prospect of a Spanish Civil War type situation was growing under the political lawfare and warfare of the Obama/Biden admin, where if such practices had continued, some citizens would eventually end up killing (a lot of) other citizens. But with Trump exercising NG and other federal level reactions, I am beginning to think that will end up calming things down on balance, although there may still end up being more deaths than we would ever want to  occur. 

I suppose the group of 2028 Dem presidential and congressional candidate hopefuls might just say or do something truly stupid as part of trying to gain political traction; but if the media strangle hold on opinion is also declining, even this might be mitigated by reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOAF on October 9, 2025 at 1:16 am:<br />
OK, brain fart # 17,396, if my count is correct.  🙂</p>
<p> But Art Deco&#8217;s link has a commenter saying:<br />
Guy7500   8 hours ago  &#8220;Insurrection act is coming.&#8221;<br />
So perhaps we will see a resurrection of an insurrection? </p>
<p>But reflecting on Don @ 8:09pm; &#8220;We seem to be moving towards civil war &#8230;  because Democrats insist on getting their way.&#8221;<br />
I think the prospect of a Spanish Civil War type situation was growing under the political lawfare and warfare of the Obama/Biden admin, where if such practices had continued, some citizens would eventually end up killing (a lot of) other citizens. But with Trump exercising NG and other federal level reactions, I am beginning to think that will end up calming things down on balance, although there may still end up being more deaths than we would ever want to  occur. </p>
<p>I suppose the group of 2028 Dem presidential and congressional candidate hopefuls might just say or do something truly stupid as part of trying to gain political traction; but if the media strangle hold on opinion is also declining, even this might be mitigated by reality.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 00:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I see little reason to draw an analogy at all, especially to something that happened 160 years ago for completely different reasons, involving completely different people who believe nothing in common with what today’s Democrats believe. It’s sufficient to factually describe what they are doing and how and why.&lt;/i&gt;

But they are the same where it matters: rejecting legitimate federal authority and using violent militias to enforce their will.  

We seem to be moving towards civil war for similar reasons we fought the last one, and in both cases it is because Democrats insist on getting their way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I see little reason to draw an analogy at all, especially to something that happened 160 years ago for completely different reasons, involving completely different people who believe nothing in common with what today’s Democrats believe. It’s sufficient to factually describe what they are doing and how and why.</i></p>
<p>But they are the same where it matters: rejecting legitimate federal authority and using violent militias to enforce their will.  </p>
<p>We seem to be moving towards civil war for similar reasons we fought the last one, and in both cases it is because Democrats insist on getting their way.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pedantic is a description of Nick&#039;s approach to dialog and argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedantic is a description of Nick&#8217;s approach to dialog and argument.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 22:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see your point, Niketas. I think it&#039;s okay to draw analogies even if they aren&#039;t exact replicas.  You don&#039;t, and now we get the why. You want exact duplication, not a generalization of the underlying motives.

Well, it&#039;s good to have a debate about such things. Clears the air, and pins down exactly what we&#039;re talking about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point, Niketas. I think it&#8217;s okay to draw analogies even if they aren&#8217;t exact replicas.  You don&#8217;t, and now we get the why. You want exact duplication, not a generalization of the underlying motives.</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s good to have a debate about such things. Clears the air, and pins down exactly what we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 19:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I see little reason to draw an analogy at all,&lt;/i&gt;
==
You could have used fewer words answering his question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I see little reason to draw an analogy at all,</i><br />
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You could have used fewer words answering his question.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/08/the-anti-ice-neo-confederates/#comment-2825429</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@J. J.:&lt;i&gt;So, Niketas, what analogy would you use to describe what the Democrats are doing in the blue run cities and states?&lt;/i&gt;

I see little reason to draw an analogy at all, especially to something that happened 160 years ago for completely different reasons, involving completely different people who believe nothing in common with what today&#039;s Democrats believe. It&#039;s sufficient to factually describe what they are doing and how and why.

If calling them Confederates was some kind of propaganda kill shot it might still be worth doing, but it&#039;s not. Linking them to crazy trans activists, foreign antisemite agitators, illegal immigrants, and assassins is far more effective and is indeed even truthful, and they themselves publicly embrace those people.

Not to mention that if 2024 had worked out a little differently it might well be red states needing to defy the Federal government now. You can bet they&#039;d be called neo-Confederates for doing so, and it would also be a lie. There&#039;s lots of relevant reasons why it&#039;s morally right or wrong to do that and practically none of them have anything to do with the Confederacy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@J. J.:<i>So, Niketas, what analogy would you use to describe what the Democrats are doing in the blue run cities and states?</i></p>
<p>I see little reason to draw an analogy at all, especially to something that happened 160 years ago for completely different reasons, involving completely different people who believe nothing in common with what today&#8217;s Democrats believe. It&#8217;s sufficient to factually describe what they are doing and how and why.</p>
<p>If calling them Confederates was some kind of propaganda kill shot it might still be worth doing, but it&#8217;s not. Linking them to crazy trans activists, foreign antisemite agitators, illegal immigrants, and assassins is far more effective and is indeed even truthful, and they themselves publicly embrace those people.</p>
<p>Not to mention that if 2024 had worked out a little differently it might well be red states needing to defy the Federal government now. You can bet they&#8217;d be called neo-Confederates for doing so, and it would also be a lie. There&#8217;s lots of relevant reasons why it&#8217;s morally right or wrong to do that and practically none of them have anything to do with the Confederacy.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LA officials could find themselves in federal court on criminal charges if they deliberately obstruct enforcement of federal law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LA officials could find themselves in federal court on criminal charges if they deliberately obstruct enforcement of federal law.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 18:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not going to bother about whether Democrats are acting like Confederates or acting like drugged roaches in a bottle. The following is egregious:
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https://blazingcatfur.ca/2025/10/09/l-a-county-considers-declaring-state-of-emergency-to-fight-back-against-ice-raids/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not going to bother about whether Democrats are acting like Confederates or acting like drugged roaches in a bottle. The following is egregious:<br />
==<br />
<a href="https://blazingcatfur.ca/2025/10/09/l-a-county-considers-declaring-state-of-emergency-to-fight-back-against-ice-raids/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://blazingcatfur.ca/2025/10/09/l-a-county-considers-declaring-state-of-emergency-to-fight-back-against-ice-raids/</a></p>
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